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canyoneer posted:Wife piggyback was an important skill among fishing communities in Scotland. And by the 19th century, industrialization means your husband now crews a steam drifter and Great Britain is criss-crossed by railways. So the drifter fleets had the speed, endurance and capacity to follow the herring shoals as they made their gradual seasonal migration from the cold waters of the North Sea off Scotland and the Shetland Islands in early spring to the shallow, warmer waters off East Anglia and the Low Countries by autumn. The drifters would work from a port until the 'silver darlings' moved out of range, when they would shift their base of operations to the next port big enough to hold over 1000 extra boats to the south. The wives and daughter of the fishermen were still expected to gut and salt the catch, so they migrated by land, turning up at each port in multiple specially-organised trains and setting up on the quayside, often camping out in the boat houses, net pens and sail lofts. During the morning they mended nets and made and repaired the wicker baskets and cases that the herring were dispatched in. The fleet usually came in in the early afternoon, having laid the nets overnight and then it was frantic work to sort, gut, salt, sell and ship the catch. This would be loaded onto special trains bound for markets in the major cities, which left in the early evening when the normal daytime traffic had stopped (as the drifters were setting out for the fishing grounds again) and ran at high speed through the night to deliver the fish in the early morning. This repeated every day for a few weeks before the whole show shifted down the coast.
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So much effort for such a poo poo fish.
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steinrokkan posted:So much effort for such a poo poo fish. Iceland: hold my Brennivín
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Trabant posted:Our height changed like whoa relatively recently though, basically starting in early 19th century -- higher standards of living, medicine that went (a bit) beyond leeches, etc. One chart from many found here: South Koreans have experienced similarly dramatic height increases, and most of it has been since the end of WWII and when SK started heavily industrializing in the late 70s.  The average height of Japanese people went up too but it's actually started dropping for men in the post-bubble period. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/12/national/science-health/average-height-japanese-born-1980-later-declining-study-finds/
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C.M. Kruger posted:South Koreans have experienced similarly dramatic height increases, and most of it has been since the end of WWII and when SK started heavily industrializing in the late 70s. North Korea hasn't seen a comparable increase in height, so the South Koreans deliberately pick the tallest soldiers to stand in the DMZ facing the North Korean soldiers.
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North Korea picks their tallest guys, too, but it’s slim pickings.
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tribbledirigible posted:But you'll have to sell to another family of hobbitses No they don't? They don't ever need to sell to anyone. It's normal to die before you've sold a single home.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:No they don't? They don't ever need to sell to anyone. It's normal to die before you've sold a single home. Ya, we're staying here until one of us kicks the bucket, if at all possible, this house is awesome and about to get a lot better with renovations. I love reading home improvement (HYUCK) threads on SA for tips, but the US mindset of "everything you do about your house should be about increasing its market value for its eventual flipping for Great Profit" baffles me. People here in the arctic wastes... just don't do that? A historical fact for you: the predominant Finnish single-family home is called both "veteran house" and "die house", or "d6 house", to be exact. The first name comes from the great resettlement after WW2 when most cities and towns had massive suburban settlements created to house both the veterans returning from the war, as well as the refugees fleeing from the areas annexed by USSR. The solution was to give/sell a cheap small parcel of land to each family, on which they could build a "type house", with easy to follow instructions provided by the government. The type house was basically a cube with a roof on it - hence the name "noppatalo" or "die house.  The type house was easy to build out of any available materials with minimum amount of skills and tools required, a functionalist solution to the problem of housing an immense population in a very short time. (Ours was made by a carpenter master with access to proper materials - the walls are brick and the original woodwork is top-notch and still in the condition it was in 1948. The "renovations" done in the 1970s and early 2000s, though...  ) Some hundreds of thousands were erected before 1970s and dot the entire Finnish landscape from Helsinki to Sodankylä. The house was inspired by American and Japanese examples. I think the influence of the popular Sears prefabs from early 1900s can also be seen in the Type House!  It's a perfect house for the Nordic climate: all the rooms are centered around a central chimney that warms the entire house while the minimum surface area retains that heat effectively. Ours has central heating and had its fireplaces removed in the 1970s. Since the price of heating oil is just going up, we're gonna install new modern fireplaces and a heat pump as soon as we get the chance. With luck, this place should be fit for living a 100 years from now on. With the rising sea levels, at that point it should also be beachfront property. Our grandkids will surely be pleased with our foresight. barbecue at the folks has a new favorite as of 13:18 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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canyoneer posted:Wife piggyback was an important skill among fishing communities in Scotland. i'd have just streamed video games instead
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Heard this one recently (thanks, History of the 20th century podcast) - back in the late 20s when the stock market was nose-diving, there were jokes going about (and to this day) of brokers and investors throwing themselves out of skyscrapers because they had been ruined. Unfortunately, this is apparently not the case - recorded instances of suicide rates in New York did not increase greatly in that period. It's not known what the exact instigating point of this trope came from, but a likely candidate is Winston Churchill , who saw a man kill himself at a financial meeting in New York and speculated it was due to financial losses in a newspaper column.
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Samovar posted:Heard this one recently (thanks, History of the 20th century podcast) - back in the late 20s when the stock market was nose-diving, there were jokes going about (and to this day) of brokers and investors throwing themselves out of skyscrapers because they had been ruined. Yeah I have a book called The American Century by Harold Evans and he had a short sidebar about this in his chapter about the Hoover presidency “The rumors of mass jumpings may have been started by the appearance of a workman on the roof of a Wall Street building on Black Thursday, or by the fall of a large piece of masonry from 40 Wall Street that almost killed several pas sersby. Suicides were actually lower in October and November than during the summer months of the bull market, but the crash did drive some to kill them selves. The most spectacular suicide was that of John Schwitzgebel, a Kansas City insurance salesman. Sitting in his club, he dropped the financial page he was reading, shouted, "Tell the boys I can't pay them what I owe them" and shot himself twice in the chest”
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Before becoming President, FDR tried to sell a screenplay of John Paul Jones to Paramount https://archive.org/details/sim_coronet_1951-02_29_4_0/page/38/mode/2up
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In the year 1963, Finland lost an estimated 1 380 000 work days to industrial action. On the evening of 3.5.1963, after long and difficult negotiations to end the electrical strike that had started in February, J.N.Lehtinen, the first person to hold the office of National Conciliator, stood up and made the following statement: "Well now, I note that consensus has been reached. I'm going to go write the agreement." To this another person replied: "Now now, don't go. I've booked a stenographer, you can dictate so you don't have to write." Lehtinen said: "All right!", sat down, and died. (Translation of dialogue mine. Source: Kurjensaari, Matti. Kansakunnan kaapin päällä. Helsinki: Tammi 1969.)
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Say you are a man or woman born in the western Ukrainian town of Mukachevo in the year 1918 and die in 1993 at 75 years old, never leaving your hometown for more than the occasional vacation. In the course of your lifetime, Mukachevo was: - part of Austria Hungary (until 1918) - part the Hungarian Soviet Republic (1918) - simultaneously claimed but not controlled by the West Ukrainian People's Republic (1918-23) - occupied by Romania (1918/19) - recaptured by the Hungarian Soviet Republic (1919) - occupied and annexed by Czechoslovakia (1919-38) - part of the autonomous territory of Carpatho-Ukraine within Czechoslovakia (1938) - occupied and annexed the Kingdom of Hungary (1938-44) - claimed by the Republic of Carpatho-Ukraine which existed for less than 24 hours (1939) - occupied by Germany (1944) - part of fascist Hungary (1944) - occupied by the Soviet Union (1944/45) - claimed by Czechoslovakia (1944/45) - incorporated into the Soviet Union (1945-91) - part of independent Ukraine (since 1991)  The main square of Mukachevo in November 1938, shortly after being annexed by Hungary following the First Vienna Award System Metternich has a new favorite as of 21:59 on Dec 9, 2021 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:In the year 1963, Finland lost an estimated 1 380 000 work days to industrial action. On the evening of 3.5.1963, after long and difficult negotiations to end the electrical strike that had started in February, J.N.Lehtinen, the first person to hold the office of National Conciliator, stood up and made the following statement: "Well now, I note that consensus has been reached. I'm going to go write the agreement." To this another person replied: "Now now, don't go. I've booked a stenographer, you can dictate so you don't have to write." Lehtinen said: "All right!", sat down, and died. I mean sounds to me like he would have died before writing anything anyways so seems unfair to blame that guy or the stenographer
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drrockso20 posted:I mean sounds to me like he would have died before writing anything anyways so seems unfair to blame that guy or the stenographer You have solved the case.
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You have to admit, it's admirable to hate your job so much that you can successfully will yourself to death.
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System Metternich posted:Say you are a man or woman born in the western Ukrainian town of Mukachevo in the year 1918 and die in 1993 at 75 years old, never leaving your hometown for more than the occasional vacation. In the course of your lifetime, Mukachevo was: If you were a signmaker, you would have been worked to death long before then
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That's a big list, but mostly just parses as "this was a border town that got juggled around a bunch in the world wars." There wasn't a whole lot going on during the interbellum, and postwar it was just part of the Soviet Union until it dissolved.
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In 1909 this area had 4% of worldwide oil production. I also rate it the most likely target for conquest by an EU member. Irredentist Hungary is always looking to regain lost territory, and a Molotov-Ribbentrop like agreement with Russia would be accepted faster than you can say "Trianon". They have already built an underutilized motorway for fast invasion and everything! https://web.archive.org/web/20160410201456/http://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/drohobycz/history/petroleum.asp
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Hungary's gotta be the most irredentist country in modern Europe right? I guess it helps that some of the hungarian minority groups, like in Transylvania, are still semi-intact. There'd be more german irredentists if any germans were left in Kaliningrad. Prolly still don't become a fascist dictatorship though. You do not gotta hand it to Orban.
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catfry posted:Maybe Cyprus. The northern part of your island nation being illegally occupied by your allies "ally" tends to cause that.
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That's kind of like the psilocybin spores you can buy "for microscopic/research use only".
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Imagined posted:That's kind of like the psilocybin spores you can buy "for microscopic/research use only". Or q-tips that you "do not put in your ear".
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Or q-tips that you "do not put in your ear". Except you shouldn't do that, it shoves the ear waxes further up your ears and gives you infections. The other's a warnings not to do a thing that'll get you a goooooood time. Ear infections aren't a good time unless you're into some really hard stuff.
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That text is modern. This text is original:  
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RagnarokZ posted:Except you shouldn't do that, it shoves the ear waxes further up your ears and gives you infections. So, it's exactly the same?
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RagnarokZ posted:Except you shouldn't do that, it shoves the ear waxes further up your ears and gives you infections. I assure you, a shitload of earwax comes out of my ear when I use a Q-tip, stinking and sticky. If I leave it alone it will block off most, or sometimes even all, of my ear canal, and it's an unsettling situation to be in the first few times slowly going deaf in one ear over the course of weeks, only to find a wall of nasty-rear end earwax blocking it.
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Imagined posted:That's kind of like the psilocybin spores you can buy "for microscopic/research use only". Or the spore print ""stickers"" on Etsy. Individually foil-wrapped, exactly the attribute I demand from my incredibly expensive sticker sets
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RagnarokZ posted:Except you shouldn't do that, it shoves the ear waxes further up your ears and gives you infections. I was always about jamming Q-tips in my ear. I'd also use a pencil or a pen. I was nuts about it. Then I discovered I was an idiot at the age of 40. Switched to Debrox. No more plugged ears. Hearing is so much better. I had a chunk of wax in my left ear as big as a grape. I'd probably had it for over a decade. It was super gross. It had to be flushed and picked out. Now, my ears run clean. Seriously, Debrox is your friend. Q-tips are good for lots of stuff. Just not your ears.
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In 1836 the patent office in Washington D.C. caught fire and burned down. Amongst the patent that was lost was that of the fire hydrant, meaning that we don't really know who invented it.
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Alhazred posted:In 1836 the patent office in Washington D.C. caught fire and burned down. Amongst the patent that was lost was that of the fire hydrant, meaning that we don't really know who invented it. Wells should have known better than to rematerialize in the stacks.
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Two generations of werewolves in Denmark 1670:quote:On June 30, Oluf Christensen, born in Hove parish on Stoer [farm], buried, aged 47. He lived in Starup near Kolding, came ill to his father Christen Olufsen in Sig on [June?] 21. He died there on June 21. It was said that he could change into a wolf. The same was said of his father Christen Sig, he asked me last year if I would say a prayer from the pulpit etc. Oluf Mullesgaards wife in Lomborg attributed to him and her own husband the "lovely title" Not sure what that last part siginifies.
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