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CirclMastr posted:My god, my brain told me that Tom Tucker posted and I should re-read since I got scum tone from them. Except they didn't, it was just SNG voting for Tom Tucker. Get sleep and then vote for Tom, it’s a good choice and I’m surprised no one else has leaned on that.
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sandnavyguy posted:Get sleep and then vote for Tom, it’s a good choice and I’m surprised no one else has leaned on that. Tom hasn't been around much, but when he was around earlier, he put in a solid effort. Is there something I missed that makes you want to pick him out from all the other lurkers who have had less content?
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Nov 18, 2021 22:20
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Bifauxnen posted:Tom hasn't been around much, but when he was around earlier, he put in a solid effort. Is there something I missed that makes you want to pick him out from all the other lurkers who have had less content? Yes. Like I said, it was the timing of his long post, which reads as town, followed by silence despite the tightening deadline, in tandem with the slow and content light day 1, I see that as a scum play. With most of the other lurkers, their posts aren’t as curated for maximum use if they were scum playing.
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Nov 18, 2021 22:37
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sandnavyguy posted:Yes. Like I said, it was the timing of his long post, which reads as town, followed by silence despite the tightening deadline, in tandem with the slow and content light day 1, I see that as a scum play. With most of the other lurkers, their posts aren’t as curated for maximum use if they were scum playing. Hm, I disagree since it seemed to be a matter of availability. But I believe that you believe this, so ##unvote SNG ##vote Hal
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Nov 18, 2021 22:40
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PlasticAutomaton posted:I refuse to lunch Circl, the poor bastard hasn't made it past day 2 in his last 3 games laffo. Alright, just in case I don't live to D2 ( I hope so, I'm having fun despite grumpyposts earlier). Plas, who scum?
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Nov 18, 2021 22:43
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Bifauxnen posted:Hm, I disagree since it seemed to be a matter of availability. But I believe that you believe this, so Well that’s kinda weak, you never even answered my question
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Nov 18, 2021 22:47
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Sorry I haven't been around much - when I get busy I mostly have time to put in real effort in the early afternoons, same as yesterday. Seeing my name coming up a bunch in lists as someone scummy without a ton of votes behind it. Doesn't bother me but SNG and B Minus's efforts around it totally do. For B Minus - they voted for me with zero reason and are now just justifying it after the fact. The post saying SNG's vote is a "good vote" is such nonsense. B Minus has stuck their cart out and SNG is only perfectly happy to be the horse behind it. For SNG the whole vote itself is bad, see below. sandnavyguy posted:Good morning! So, let me posit some things now that I’m on lunch~ I come in and put more content and more reads into a single post than most people have done this game and SNG is knocking me for "disappearin" or "stirring the pot". Literally saying who you get town or scum reads on is the basis of the game and tons of other people are doing it but because they spread out their lesser reads across multiple posts (where they can get lost) it's fine, but I do mine all at once, thus drawing more attention to them and sparking more interaction, and it's "disappearing?" No, that's nonsense, and SNG's post is nonsense. B minus has behaved totally arbitrarily and scummy with zero content and has made a vote on me, utterly unjustified (this isn't hyperbole the post was only a vote and the first time they had brought me up) and now that I "feel" like a valid alternative because others have put me in their "scum vibe" lists (with no reason I may add weird as hell - whenever I make a large post and mention someone I at least show em the respect of saying why I think they're scum or town but oh well) meaning they feel some vague momentum could be built there. B minus and SNG both highly scum read, would prefer B Minus due to the zero content and backwards-justification of a vote once it became popular but would vote SNG as well due to somehow calling my scum hunting a "power move" to justify pushing onto a strong contender to distract from them.
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Nov 18, 2021 22:48
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sandnavyguy posted:Yes. Like I said, it was the timing of his long post, which reads as town, followed by silence despite the tightening deadline, in tandem with the slow and content light day 1, I see that as a scum play. With most of the other lurkers, their posts aren’t as curated for maximum use if they were scum playing. Curious if you can elaborate on this. My posts are "curated for maximum use"? I don't understand what that means, and other players don't do this if they are scum?
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Nov 18, 2021 22:50
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You mean this question? Hal Insandenza posted:What did I do to get on your list again? I don't even recall you really talking about me I thought I explained it already but if you're hung up on needing the full Venn diagram, the "list of people I would vote" consists of: Pool of all players - townie list - people I'd feel bad about voting out too soon at this moment (Circl, RF)
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Nov 18, 2021 22:55
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Tom Tucker posted:Sorry I haven't been around much - when I get busy I mostly have time to put in real effort in the early afternoons, same as yesterday. Yes, I knocked you for that. I feel it’s a valid read on a scum play. How is that nonsense? Even if you disagree that you are scum, it doesn’t make my read less valid. On a light D1, with little to hook on, and with a ton of lurking, a solid scum strat is to make a long post, choose a townie to vote, follow with a short post that you’re willing to move votes if needed, and then disappear. It’s the *pattern and timing* that I’m calling scummy, not the scumhunt itself. I can’t speak for B- or why they are voting you, but I’m standing by my read. You coming back directly after I vote you with reasoning how I highly likely must be scum but not voting me is telling as well.
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Nov 18, 2021 22:56
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Tom Tucker posted:Curious if you can elaborate on this. My posts are "curated for maximum use"? I don't understand what that means, and other players don't do this if they are scum? Walking to car will answer shortly!
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Nov 18, 2021 22:57
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It's nonsense because you're knocking me for quantity rather than quality
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Nov 18, 2021 22:58
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Ok nvm I take it back ##unvote Hal ##vote SNG Sorry to Yami for the confessional spam
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Nov 18, 2021 22:58
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Tom Tucker posted:Curious if you can elaborate on this. My posts are "curated for maximum use"? I don't understand what that means, and other players don't do this if they are scum? I mean, if I’m looking at a slate of lurkers to try and scumhunt them D1, I’m going to compare their posting patterns with what I feel would be most advantageous to scum. Then, I will vote those with a more advantageous position first, all else being equal. It proves out on a number of these games, so I’m trying it this time myself.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:00
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Tom Tucker posted:It's nonsense because you're knocking me for quantity rather than quality Are you just not reading what I’m writing? I voted on the *pattern* not the quantity
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Nov 18, 2021 23:01
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Bifauxnen posted:Ok nvm I take it back Okay, was it Tom that convinced you to switch back so quickly, or my argument? And if so, why? Because this seems sus.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:03
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sandnavyguy posted:I mean, if I’m looking at a slate of lurkers to try and scumhunt them D1, I’m going to compare their posting patterns with what I feel would be most advantageous to scum. Then, I will vote those with a more advantageous position first, all else being equal. It proves out on a number of these games, so I’m trying it this time myself. I find it slightly hard to believe that much thought was really put into this. Unless all that thought was actually "how can I make this vote most sound believable, as scum"
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Nov 18, 2021 23:03
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sandnavyguy posted:Okay, was it Tom that convinced you to switch back so quickly, or my argument? And if so, why? Because this seems sus. You, going on so much about it didn't feel as sincere as the first reply.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:04
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Bifauxnen posted:I find it slightly hard to believe that much thought was really put into this. Unless all that thought was actually "how can I make this vote most sound believable, as scum" Wait wait. You find it hard to believe that in a deduction game, I made deductions at put time into it? Bif that’s ridiculous, disingenuous and the scummiest post so far this thread. ##vote bif But at least it’s finally a hook not reliant on pattern posting.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:07
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Yeah I'm not buying this "pattern" argument from SNG
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Nov 18, 2021 23:07
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sandnavyguy posted:Wait wait. You find it hard to believe that in a deduction game, I made deductions at put time into it? Bif that’s ridiculous, disingenuous and the scummiest post so far this thread. Lmfao
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Nov 18, 2021 23:07
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That said, Tom is still, of the lurkers, the one with the most sus pattern.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:08
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Anidav give SNG his account back
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CirclMastr posted:Yeah I'm not buying this "pattern" argument from SNG Why?
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Nov 18, 2021 23:08
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Scummiest post so far in the thread, wowza
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Nov 18, 2021 23:09
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This "pattern" thing is nonsense dude you're saying posting fewer higher-content posts is scummier than more lower-content posts? That doesn't make sense I'd say the opposite is true - it's 100x easier to fly under the radar by making 30 zero-content posts than 1 high-content post. For an example look at B minus!
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Nov 18, 2021 23:09
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Bifauxnen posted:Lmfao Bif we’ve played how many games together? You *know* overthinking things is my MO. Bifauxnen posted:You, going on so much about it didn't feel as sincere as the first reply.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:10
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Tom Tucker posted:This "pattern" thing is nonsense dude you're saying posting fewer higher-content posts is scummier than more lower-content posts? That doesn't make sense I'd say the opposite is true - it's 100x easier to fly under the radar by making 30 zero-content posts than 1 high-content post. That’s not what I’m saying? At all?
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Nov 18, 2021 23:11
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Yeah the more SNG overjustified it, the more it feels like he picked Tom purely so his lurker vote looks better for having more substance
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Nov 18, 2021 23:11
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sandnavyguy posted:That’s not what I’m saying? At all? So it's the time I'm posting? That's just when I'm usually free during the day. That pattern?
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Nov 18, 2021 23:12
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Bifauxnen posted:Yeah the more SNG overjustified it, the more it feels like he picked Tom purely so his lurker vote looks better for having more substance I’m sorry, but yes? I don’t feel like making an unsubstantiated vote is a good policy as town? What is your point?
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Nov 18, 2021 23:13
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sandnavyguy posted:I’m sorry, but yes? I don’t feel like making an unsubstantiated vote is a good policy as town? What is your point? It's an easy point, I now have an actual scum list and you're on it
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Nov 18, 2021 23:13
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Tom Tucker posted:So it's the time I'm posting? That's just when I'm usually free during the day. That pattern? No. It’s the “joke phase posts, then serious, long form post. Then a waffle would vote post, then radio silence”. It, of all the lurkers, makes most sense as scum. If you did 30 no content posts, or jokephase waffle then long post, or even long post then dip, those would all be other, less scum advantageous patterns. It’s a poor read compared to obvious hooks like disingenuous posting or active contradictions but on a D1 where the only real traction is meta posting, lurkers, or a strange shop thing that has yet to pan out, I’ll stand by it as a starter vote. Then Bif posted, I feel it’s a better vote, and I switched. Ta da.
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Nov 18, 2021 23:17
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I’m thinking hal and sng are town
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Nov 18, 2021 23:17
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So if I'm understanding correctly, SNG's strongest scum read this game is Tom because he came in with some good long posts and thoughtful reads and then didn't post for a while. He says nothing about the content, just makes a quick argument from a mechanics standpoint that is deeply flawed, and when called out on it sticks to his dumb idea and flails around with a Bif vote. Flail more, scum. ##unvote Hal ##vote SNG Would still vote Dex but am feeling better with Hal throwing out opinions that are a bit more solid.
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Bifauxnen posted:It's an easy point, I now have an actual scum list and you're on it That’s not how that works as a point. The scum list, sure, but as a point “he’s playing the game and putting time into it” is not a strong point to use
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Nov 18, 2021 23:18
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b-minus1 posted:I’m thinking hal and sng are town I would be more willing to think SNG is just a mistaken town if it weren't for the sudden swerve vote onto Bif
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:So if I'm understanding correctly, SNG's strongest scum read this game is Tom because he came in with some good long posts and thoughtful reads and then didn't post for a while. No my strongest scum read is now Bif. It’s not a dumb idea, and I’ve not back tracked. Of the lurkers, Tom is the most advantageous to scum. Bif, in their response, is v scummy. Hence why my vote is on them?
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Btw I think it's telling that SNG leaned on the "how many games have we played together, Bif" while also voting me D1. imo, someone who's played with me a bunch should want to leave me alive for a while since I reliably provide a lot of content! Also, he should know I make a lot of wrong D1 calls and, even if he's town, not see that as a reason for me to be scummy lmao
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