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The solution to this electrical riddle has to account for the fact that this was previously a switched outlet that someone rewired to be always hot, in the worst way.
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Blistex posted:So the lamp's actual switch is closing the entire circuit? Correct. I can control the porch light with the lamp itself, or by unplugging the lamp entirely.
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Nov 21, 2021 01:44
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Pull the switches out of the box and take a picture. Are there any white wires connected to black wires?
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Knock out the whole wall imo, just grow some bamboo to divide your habitat from the cold outside
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Nov 21, 2021 02:31
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:THE MYSTERY SWITCH Holy poo poo I'm seeing grounds and neutrals tied together depending on switch positions. At first glance the problem is that middle line from wire nut to outlet. With the switch triggered you have two legs of a 3 prong outlet tied together. frodnonnag fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Nov 21, 2021 |
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Nov 21, 2021 03:02
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:Correct. I can control the porch light with the lamp itself, or by unplugging the lamp entirely. Is the behavior the same with both outlets on the receptacle or just one?
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Blistex posted:So the lamp's actual switch is closing the entire circuit? Yeah it seems like that outlet is broken or should be pigtailed in because that was my though basically the lamp is acting as a wire for the leg.. if you turned lamp on with no bulb I bet you have the same issue.
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Grovercontrol?
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Nov 21, 2021 23:08
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If you solve the puzzle, you get a heart container
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Nov 21, 2021 23:10
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This escape room sucks
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Ok, I think I've got it. So, first HelloMyHeart has to get the combination that turns on BOTH lights. That opens the door to Platystemon's chamber. The trick is in Platystemon's puzzle, the lights are red herring. I know the *light* switches indicate that, and they used a light puzzle followed by a light switch to get you thinking that way, but it's actually the layout that's important. So really: A B B B A A B B B B A A B C B C A B A D A A A A A B B B B A Hope this helps!
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This is what happens when you let a Concorde flight engineer build his dream retirement home. 
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B-36 version
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I won't lie, I've always dreamed of hooking like 10 metal toggle switches in series with the ignition of a car, up on the front of the ceiling, so you have to go flip flip flip flip to activate it like you're in a cool spaceship
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Wrong thread, you're looking for the Perfect Construction thread
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alnilam posted:I won't lie, I've always dreamed of hooking like 10 metal toggle switches in series with the ignition of a car, up on the front of the ceiling, so you have to go flip flip flip flip to activate it like you're in a cool spaceship Make it a meaningful passcode in binary.
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Platystemon posted:Make it a meaningful passcode in binary. 110100100
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StormDrain posted:Is the behavior the same with both outlets on the receptacle or just one? The outlets behave the same. I am going to see if my electrical engineer neighbor can come and check it out sometime this week.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:
This may not help.
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Have you tried setting it to more magic?
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Try SCE to "Aux"
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The only wires leaving this incestuous mess are in the lower right, correct? For anything in the system to be powered one has to be hot and the other has to be neutral* in some way (possibly the ground wire because the installer was an idiot). O.K. but then the switch on the right ought to power the porch light directly, with no funny business from the interior socket or the other switch. There has to be something wrong with this diagram. It cannot reflect reality. There has to be something like a hidden ground or a buried junction. *Or the alternate phase of your split-phase service, but that would destroy the bulbs in short order.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:THE MYSTERY SWITCH i know its the lamest thing for solving a puzzle when you ask for more information but if you could give us a picture of even just the faceplates off the outlet and switches (assuming you ain't wanna have these devices loose) it could be an easy solve from there e: here's where i'm at, using my troubleshooting experience: 1. switched outlets are a bitch. if they're run with 3 wires (red black and white) it completely fucks up DIY'ers, apprentices, etc. 2. some hacks switch the neutral instead of the hot. you'll get all sorts of wacky poo poo this way, especially if they broke the tabs on the outlet to make only one of them switched power 3. i really want to go try to rig something together with my material to try to replicate this, despite it being 10pm Extant Artiodactyl fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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 well! i tried following the info given and switched the neutral instead of hot to see what would happen. unfortunately, it just worked correctly. will try a couple more common mistakes tomorrow
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Extant Artiodactyl posted:
Man these new ARG puzzles are getting too hard for me to follow.
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8one6 posted:Man these new ARG puzzles are getting too hard for me to follow. This is a Myst puzzle. You need to use the thermal lens to look inside the walls to see where a dead squirrel has nibbled the line and screwed up the internal connections.
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Ouch, bet you're wishing you kept that Bonding Plant alive, huh?
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Extant Artiodactyl posted:
This is the content i crave
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This is amazing and i love you all
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 I think I see your problem.
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That strange guy posted:
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Switch wall is only acceptable if it’s within reach of the lazyboy
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Extant Artiodactyl posted:well! i tried following the info given and switched the neutral instead of hot to see what would happen. unfortunately, it just worked correctly. will try a couple more common mistakes tomorrow https://i.imgur.com/MHNFiMg.mp4 does your system perhaps...behave kinda like this??? i tagged the 'porch light' neutral onto the outlet's switch leg. i'm chalking up the dimming and things not quite matching to OP's scenario to different styles of led's. i don't have an incandescent bulb to play with right now!
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 Someone posted earlier a good point about the resistance mismatch between an incandescent and LED bulb being potentially a crucial point
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Crappy construction: unfortunately, it just worked correctly
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alnilam posted:I won't lie, I've always dreamed of hooking like 10 metal toggle switches in series with the ignition of a car, up on the front of the ceiling, so you have to go flip flip flip flip to activate it like you're in a cool spaceship I recall this being an anti-theft measure in Fury Road.
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I mean imagine the amount of concrete you'd otherwise need to secure the War Rig
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I recall this being an anti-theft measure in Fury Road. One... one... two... red... black... go.
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Extant Artiodactyl posted:i couldn't sleep so i gave it one more try. It looks like you were able to get both lights on at the same time somehow? And here's the switch without the face plate. I can't pull everything out bc I can't turn of the circuit breaker while I'm working.  This house was built in 1940, btw.
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