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Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

Bob Socko posted:

Emergency alert just popped up on my phone. Who’s ready for more catastrophic flooding in and around the Vancouver BC area?! This is just south of the border in Washington State, for those who aren’t familiar with the area.



good luck, goon :ohdear:

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Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

Bob Socko posted:

Emergency alert just popped up on my phone. Who’s ready for more catastrophic flooding in and around the Vancouver BC area?! This is just south of the border in Washington State, for those who aren’t familiar with the area.



Me: But those aren't in BC? Oh god those aren't in BC. Why can't these atmospheric rivers follow international borders?

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Bob Socko posted:

Emergency alert just popped up on my phone. Who’s ready for more catastrophic flooding in and around the Vancouver BC area?! This is just south of the border in Washington State, for those who aren’t familiar with the area.



makes me thankful all the major rivers in the rainier river valley are channelized to hell and back.

Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Alobar posted:

good luck, goon :ohdear:
For now, I’m ok. I’m high up, on a hill, with no flowing water above me. Things might get weird in town, or if we have really high winds (causing a tree to fall on the house). But for now, I’m safe.

500 good dogs posted:

Me: But those aren't in BC? Oh god those aren't in BC. Why can't these atmospheric rivers follow international borders?
It keeps just barely missing me. As best I can tell, some giant lake was drained a hundred years ago to make a bunch of farmland. Most of it was in Canada, but some was in America. And, well, nature wants it’s land back.

Tabletops posted:

makes me thankful all the major rivers in the rainier river valley are channelized to hell and back.
Yes! That’s not the case up here. As I understand it, they were warned a few years ago and did nothing.

Alobar
Jun 21, 2011

Are you proud of me?

Are you proud of what I do?

I'll try to be a better man than the one that you knew.

Bob Socko posted:

nature wants it’s land back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou8K--RDjy8

e:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx-M4dqmgaM

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://www.newscientist.com/article/2298314-new-plastic-made-from-dna-is-biodegradable-and-easy-to-recycle/

quote:

New plastic made from DNA is biodegradable and easy to recycle
A plastic made from DNA and vegetable oil may be the most sustainable plastic developed yet and could be used in packaging and electronic devices



A new plastic made from DNA is renewable, requires little energy to make and is easy to recycle or break down.

Traditional plastics are bad for the environment because they are made from non-renewable petrochemicals, require intense heating and toxic chemicals to make, and take hundreds of years to break down. Only a small fraction of them are recycled, with the rest ending up in landfill, being incinerated or polluting the environment.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

at this point I assume it breaks down directly into a pile of pure nanoplastics and microplastics

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Oh, you mean plastic made out of DNA that the GLOBAL ELITES are gonna use to passively give everyone the 5G COVID vaccine? You can't fool me! :downs:

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
I don’t trust those dissolvable plastic wrappings for dishwasher soap, I fully assume it just covers all your cutlery in nanoplastics

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
Technically, your local water warlord's skull mug ca. 2055 will be DNA-based.

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007

Laterite posted:

Technically, your local water warlord's skull mug ca. 2055 will be DNA-based.

If you're interested in skull mugs made the old fashioned way, check out my Etsy

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

wynott dunn posted:

I don’t trust those dissolvable plastic wrappings for dishwasher soap, I fully assume it just covers all your cutlery in nanoplastics

thankfully water is really good at trapping nanoparticles. which is bad for the water, but good for your dishes i guess

Armadillo Tank
Mar 26, 2010

Rutibex posted:

don't google Gamma-ray Bursts

There are not any stars of the type that do that close enough to effect us

Philonius
Jun 12, 2005

Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:

DISTILLED WATER AND PURE GRAIN ALCOHOL!

WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS SINCE THE EARLY 60s AT THE LEAST PEOPLE

I can no longer sit back and allow capitalist infiltration, capitalist indoctrination, capitalist subversion, and the international capitalist conspiracy to sap and impurify our precious bodily fluids.

TheCoach
Mar 11, 2014

Shyrka posted:

Cuba is at 1.1 earths and Vietnam is 1.4.

DPRK holding strong at 0.5 earths, we could all learn a lot from Juche!

https://www.overshootday.org/how-many-earths-or-countries-do-we-need/

Wonder how much of that Cuba number is from USA imposing an endless blockade making every supply chain needlessly long and preventing Cuba from fixing some poo poo up and going below 1.0

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

TheCoach posted:

Wonder how much of that Cuba number is from USA imposing an endless blockade making every supply chain needlessly long and preventing Cuba from fixing some poo poo up and going below 1.0

don’t they still run ancient Volkswagens and Cadillacs?

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/25/uk-water-firms-spilled-sewage-into-sea-bathing-waters-5517-times-in-past-year

quote:

UK water firms spilled sewage into sea bathing waters 5,517 times in last year

Report shows raw sewage spillages into coastal swimming waters increased by more than 87% in 12 months

Water companies spilled raw sewage into coastal bathing waters used by holidaymakers and families 5,517 times in the last year, an increase of more than 87%, new data reveals.

The discharges, through storm overflows, went on to beaches that were supposed to be the cleanest and safest in England and Wales, used by children, tourists, surfers and swimmers.

“We are in the midst of a new wave of sewage pollution,” said the 2021 Water Quality report by Surfers Against Sewage. “There are hundreds of thousands of sewage discharges polluting rivers and coastlines, all of which could impact the overall health of aquatic ecosystems.”

The data is gathered from water company alerts of spills via storm overflows across 308 locations. During the bathing water season – 15 May to the end of September – water companies issued alerts 3,328 times. The rest of the spills took place outside those months.

Storm overflows are supposed to be used in emergencies to ease pressure on the system after extreme weather or exceptional rainfall. But this report adds to the growing evidence that they are being used routinely.

Southern Water, which was fined a record £90m this year for billions of litres of raw sewage spills, issued 1,194 alerts of sewage spills, an average of 38 spills for each bathing water location, compared with an average of between two and eight for other water companies. Almost 30% of the 286 health reports submitted this year came from Southern Water’s operating area.

...

Only 14 percent of rivers in the UK are of good ecological standard, a rating that suggests they are as close to their natural state as possible.
Oi Keith, these foraged cockles taste a bit shite to ye? Fookin can't eat this it tastes your lass's fanny

bagual
Oct 29, 2010

inconspicuous

T-Paine posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/25/uk-water-firms-spilled-sewage-into-sea-bathing-waters-5517-times-in-past-year

Oi Keith, these foraged cockles taste a bit shite to ye? Fookin can't eat this it tastes your lass's fanny

This is true all over btw we're making GBS threads and pissing into the ocean all the time but it's extra funny when a big beach condo very obviously discharges right in front at the beach it's inhabitants bathe in, giant tourist families paying out the eyes to swim in their toilet

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.

bagual posted:

This is true all over btw we're making GBS threads and pissing into the ocean all the time but it's extra funny when a big beach condo very obviously discharges right in front at the beach it's inhabitants bathe in, giant tourist families paying out the eyes to swim in their toilet

Yeah I'm sure whatever's happening stateside is 10 times worse

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
Yeah so US beaches aren't any better: https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/23/health/us-beaches-pollution-study-trnd/index.html

quote:

Beaches across America showed unsafe levels of pollution last year, a study finds

Last year, nearly 60% of 4,523 beaches tested across the United States demonstrated unsafe water pollution levels on at least one day, according to a report released Tuesday by the nonprofits Environment America Research & Policy Center and Frontier Group.

These 2,585 beaches had bacteria levels that exceeded the US Environmental Protection Agency’s “Beach Action Value” threshold, which it recommends states use to provide an early alert to beachgoers who may be particularly sensitive to contaminants.

It warned that sewage and fecal contamination of swimming areas pose a public health threat. Humans who come into contact with it can develop gastrointestinal illness, respiratory disease, infections and skin rashes, the report said.

A toxic algae bloom can be seen from the air along the Mississippi coast on June 25, 2019

Sources of pollution at beaches include urban runoff, sewage overflow and failing septic systems, and concentrated livestock manure, according to the report.

The number of reported recreational water illnesses has steadily increased over the past few decades, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says. About 90 million illnesses occur from water recreation events annually, according to a 2018 study published in the journal Environmental Health.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




i refuse to go in the ocean if it rained recently. i got hives all over my body a few times and that sucked and it seems related to run off

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

When I was a kid my family went to the beach and we all got inner ear infections. Turns out the city was dumping unfiltered sewage straight into the ocean and the current brought it all back lmao.

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

T-Paine posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/25/uk-water-firms-spilled-sewage-into-sea-bathing-waters-5517-times-in-past-year

Oi Keith, these foraged cockles taste a bit shite to ye? Fookin can't eat this it tastes your lass's fanny

Paying fines is way cheaper than the capital expenditure of upgrading treatment plants

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

T-Paine posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/25/uk-water-firms-spilled-sewage-into-sea-bathing-waters-5517-times-in-past-year

Oi Keith, these foraged cockles taste a bit shite to ye? Fookin can't eat this it tastes your lass's fanny

I remember going on holiday as a kid to swanage in the 70's & swimming in the sea, if you went under the water all you could see was this brownish soup....
Little did I know I was swimming around in sewage....

I guess what I'm saying is, this has been going on for a loving long time.

T-Paine
Dec 12, 2007

Sitting in the Costco food court unmasked, Bible in hand, reading my favorite Psalms to my five children: Abel, Bethany, Carlos, Carlos, and Carlos.
I haven't been to the beach in 20 years (I live about 5 miles from one) but I always just sort of thought the water was supposed to be a gross opaque brown

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


lmao if you get near water that isn't crystal clear

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin
the local river here has great stretches full of gross looking foam and gross oily discharge and its from ancient coal ash sites that have just seeped and seeped and lol coal ash is radioactive too?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Nobel-winning stock market theory used to help save coral reefs


A Nobel prize-winning economic theory used by investors is showing early signs of helping save threatened coral reefs, scientists say.

Researchers at Australia’s University of Queensland used modern portfolio theory (MPT), a mathematical framework developed by the economist Harry Markowitz in the 1950s to help risk-averse investors maximise returns, to identify the 50 reefs or coral sanctuaries around the world that are most likely to survive the climate crisis and be able to repopulate other reefs, if other threats are absent.

The study recommends targeting investment in conservation projects that have the “strongest potential to succeed” in protecting priority reefs. The gains go beyond positive ecological outcomes and include crucial social, economic, health and nutritional benefits for communities, according to partners, organisations and funders interviewed by Blue Earth Consultants.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001
if other threats are absent.

Doing a lot of work here hahahaha

kater
Nov 16, 2010

Ah yes two known equitable resources, money and life.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

A Bakers Cousin posted:

and lol coal ash is radioactive too?

I think it is, lol to anyone downwind of a power station.

Just a Moron
Nov 11, 2021

mawarannahr posted:

don’t they still run ancient Volkswagens and Cadillacs?

Yeah Cuba is kinda famous for all the classic cars they still have running around as daily drivers. I know we have to eliminate the car with extreme prejudice, but I think it's pretty neat how you can keep these old machines running for so long with a little care and patience.

https://www.cubaprivatetravel.com/blog/cuba-a-living-classic-cars-museum/

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Jel Shaker posted:

Nobel-winning stock market theory used to help save coral reefs


A Nobel prize-winning economic theory used by investors is showing early signs of helping save threatened coral reefs, scientists say.

Researchers at Australia’s University of Queensland used modern portfolio theory (MPT), a mathematical framework developed by the economist Harry Markowitz in the 1950s to help risk-averse investors maximise returns, to identify the 50 reefs or coral sanctuaries around the world that are most likely to survive the climate crisis and be able to repopulate other reefs, if other threats are absent.

The study recommends targeting investment in conservation projects that have the “strongest potential to succeed” in protecting priority reefs. The gains go beyond positive ecological outcomes and include crucial social, economic, health and nutritional benefits for communities, according to partners, organisations and funders interviewed by Blue Earth Consultants.

We have switched from conservation to climate triage where we have to admit that reefs are going completely extinct and we have to prioritize .1% of them we can try to save and re-populate "After the Climate Crisis."

This is good news because it's a solution

Tabletops
Jan 27, 2014

anime

Trainee PornStar posted:

I guess what I'm saying is, this has been going on for a loving long time.

it used to be so much worse. it’s wild to think about all the gross rear end water bodies and rivers I’ve been to and then try to imagine them 10x as bad as they were.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
stephen king was fond of describing the amazing technicolor waterways of new england courtesy of textile and paper mill runoff

Enfys
Feb 17, 2013

The ocean is calling and I must go

Jel Shaker posted:

Nobel-winning stock market theory used to help save coral reefs


A Nobel prize-winning economic theory used by investors is showing early signs of helping save threatened coral reefs, scientists say.

Researchers at Australia’s University of Queensland used modern portfolio theory (MPT), a mathematical framework developed by the economist Harry Markowitz in the 1950s to help risk-averse investors maximise returns, to identify the 50 reefs or coral sanctuaries around the world that are most likely to survive the climate crisis and be able to repopulate other reefs, if other threats are absent.

The study recommends targeting investment in conservation projects that have the “strongest potential to succeed” in protecting priority reefs. The gains go beyond positive ecological outcomes and include crucial social, economic, health and nutritional benefits for communities, according to partners, organisations and funders interviewed by Blue Earth Consultants.

What "early signs of helping save coral reefs"?

All they've done is identify 50 reefs they think are slightly less susceptible to rising water temps. There aren't "early signs" of this triage model doing poo poo to actually help anything.

munce
Oct 23, 2010

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-floods-nov-28-1.6265803
Officials urge vigilance as southwest B.C. prepares for more storm activity

The city's residents were forced to evacuate due to wildfires in the summer and now, just months later, have been evacuated due to floods.
"I hope this is not the norm, and I hope it is not on a regular basis," Mayor Linda Brown said. "Because I don't think we could survive year after year after year if this was the case."

an egg
Nov 17, 2021

attn: shifty nipples, the native lilies (in my yard, safe from council) have a pollinator

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

I'm not a scientist and idk how this works but is there a chance that the dna based plastic from a Mcflurry spoon ends up unleashing a prion disease that wipes all life off the planet.

Man that'd be funny.

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Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
randomly ran across this chart

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