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Lister posted:He already showed up in the mercenaries live action commercial. He's being completely paid off for his endorsement of the game. I had to laugh at the blizzard guy saying chess and hearthstone aren't so dissimilar. Chess may be the most balanced board game of all time. Being able to anticipate your opponent's moves is almost totally reliant on knowing what decks are in the meta, understanding what deck your opponent is playing, and then knowing the typical contents of those decks so you can play around certain cards. None of those things happen in chess. Y'know when you think about it, the absolute rigid rules regarding Chess pieces and Chess' state of play bares a lot of similarities with Casino Mage.
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You make decisions in Chess. You make decisions in Hearthstone. Check. Mate.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqfrY87U-0 This scene starting at 0:23 except instead of spouting off nerd poo poo I'm like "Runed orb... Refreshing Spring Water!"
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Lister posted:Being able to anticipate your opponent's moves is almost totally reliant on knowing what Ehhh... (To be clear, I'm not agreeing with Blizzard guy, but I don't think those are the reasons he's wrong) victorious fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Dec 1, 2021 |
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If Chess is more difficult than Hearthstone than why can computers clown on grandmasters yet the Innkeeper still struggles to read the text on cards? Checkmate nerds  e: Zephyrs alone is more complex than any chess piece in the history of the game
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Firebert posted:
Yeah but there isn't a chess piece that flips over the board, scattering other pieces, and pulls the chair out from under one or both players. How has Blizzard not fixed the Zephyrs crash bug after months?
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Iain M. Banks, Player of Games posted:All reality is a game. Physics at its most fundamental, the very fabric of our universe, results directly from the interaction of certain fairly simple rules, and chance; the same description may be applied to the best, most elegant and both intellectually and aesthetically satisfying games. By being unknowable, by resulting from events which, at the sub-atomic level, cannot be fully predicted, the future remains makeable, and retains the possibility of change, the hope of coming to prevail; victory, to use an unfashionable word. In this, the future is a game; time is one of the rules. Generally, all the best mechanistic games - those which can be played in any sense "perfectly", such as a grid, Prallian scope, 'nkraytle, chess, Farnic dimensions - can be traced to civilisations lacking a realistic view of the universe (let alone the reality). They are also, I might add, invariably pre-machine-sentience societies.
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victorious posted:Ehhh... That's fair, I see what you mean. I don't know much about high level chess.
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I just added a guy after a tavern brawl game to let him know that he missed that putting poison on Flurgl can clear the board. He thanked me and said he was new to the game. I asked what made him start playing since the barrier to entry is so high that most people playing have done so for years. It turns out that he's blind and someone recently made a mod that makes playing the game possible without sight. I had no idea, but according to him there's a influx of new players from it. So that's the kind of thing that it takes to expand the player base in constructed. https://outof.cards/hearthstone/3488-hearthstone-access-a-new-mod-improves-accessibility-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-players
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Oh yeah I saw the reddit post back when that voiceover utility came out, it's super loving cool. The amount of auditory information you have to process at high speeds to play with it is wild, it's really impressive.
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the plot twist is that you were actually playing against a bot but yeah impressive as I can barely figure out some turns before the time limit as is
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One of my favourite things that stills happens in this game and has happened since GvG, is your opponent throwing away their entire hand non-optimally because you put down a Fel Reaver.
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Today I needed one game to finish two dailies, so I queued up a Pirate Warrior game. I had 12 minutes to play before I needed to go teach; plenty of time, right? Nope. Priest, roping every turn, playing a no win condition deck. Twelve minutes later I conceded even though I had a winning position with Juggernaut on the board and Smite in hand. Can't wait for this to return to the meta!
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fanny packrat posted:Today I needed one game to finish two dailies, so I queued up a Pirate Warrior game. I had 12 minutes to play before I needed to go teach; plenty of time, right? Nope. Priest, roping every turn, playing a no win condition deck. Twelve minutes later I conceded even though I had a winning position with Juggernaut on the board and Smite in hand. Can't wait for this to return to the meta! Yep poo poo like this is why I no longer play for ranking. I run into a player like this. or some dumbass deck that's waiting to draw the entire deck or some OTK condition and I concede and move on. Way happier with the game now.
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Ranked Wild is basically all Quest Pirate Warrior and Odd Quest Hunter and lemmie tell you, it's just great.
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Desert Bus posted:Ranked Wild is basically all Quest Pirate Warrior and Odd Quest Hunter and lemmie tell you, it's just great. Hey today I faced against an Odd Quest Pirate Warrior, so we are making new ground here.
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If anyone cares for the new expansion, streamers have been granted pre-release access and are having fun testing theorycrafts. Here's MarkMcKz's stream, playing deathrattle owl priest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wIFvfta5Js edit: of course these streams give a completely false sense of the meta but honestly I'm excited and hopeful for big spell mage now also forgot to mention, there's drops enabled if you watch any famous HS streamer on twitch Oenis fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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Lister posted:He already showed up in the mercenaries live action commercial. He's being completely paid off for his endorsement of the game. I had to laugh at the blizzard guy saying chess and hearthstone aren't so dissimilar. Chess may be the most balanced board game of all time. Being able to anticipate your opponent's moves is almost totally reliant on knowing what decks are in the meta, understanding what deck your opponent is playing, and then knowing the typical contents of those decks so you can play around certain cards. None of those things happen in chess. I am not a very high level chess players so of course I'm completely unqualified to comment on this, but at the professional level you don't think the players put an incredible amount of time and effort into understanding the openings that their opponents prefer to play and developing strategies (in game as things develop) to avoid positions where their opponent will be more comfortable (stylistically) than they are? What you said basically boils down to balancing the different elements of hearthstone (tempo, control, value etc) and understanding when to commit your resources.. that's not really much different than developing good positional understanding in chess, where you have to understand what moves from a wide array of options are good in a position vs what moves are bad in a position. I think there are reasonable comparisons that can be made about the kind of thinking that goes on while playing in both games. Also for what it's worth If I remember correctly Slysssa got her #2 ranking on the EU server which is roughly comparable to being ranked #2 in North Dakota, and that was before she became exclusively a battlegrounds player for the last 2 years. Sad! In all seriousness though, I guess any cross-promotion is good.. Chess has become pretty huge on twitch recently whereas hearthstone has went the other direction.
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Apparently there are twitch drops live now (through tomorrow night) for watching theorycrafting streams. https://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com...ng-packs-early/
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I'm going to have to do a few more test packs to see if I got the delay right, but this program: https://www.autohotkey.com/ running this script: $Space:: Loop { If !GetKeyState("Space", "P") break SendInput, {Space} Sleep 5000 } return should let you just sit back and watch packs open themselves. I have 149 to open which is like 1043 mouse clicks or spacebar presses and vastly annoying. Give me a loving "open all" button Blizzard. I have forgotten your SA name, but thanks will!
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fanny packrat posted:Apparently there are twitch drops live now (through tomorrow night) for watching theorycrafting streams. I think it’s any Hearthstone stream so you don’t strictly need to watch the theorycrafting ones
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fanny packrat posted:Today I needed one game to finish two dailies, so I queued up a Pirate Warrior game. I had 12 minutes to play before I needed to go teach; plenty of time, right? Nope. Priest, roping every turn, playing a no win condition deck. Twelve minutes later I conceded even though I had a winning position with Juggernaut on the board and Smite in hand. Can't wait for this to return to the meta! Conversely, I feel exactly the same about Pirate Warrior, because at no point do I think the Pirate Warrior is actually making any decisions beyond 'Is a Pirate in my hand, and can I afford it?'.
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Shockeh posted:Conversely, I feel exactly the same about Pirate Warrior, because at no point do I think the Pirate Warrior is actually making any decisions beyond 'Is a Pirate in my hand, and can I afford it?'. Same. It's even poisoned Duels.
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anyone else opening packs via fireside tomorrow? here’s hoping for better luck than last expansions fiasco
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Cry Havoc posted:here’s hoping for better luck than last expansions fiasco I've got my fingers crossed for you buddy 
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You can have all my luck, since I'm pretty sure I'm going to just play the same deck I have been with no new cards.
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Well, while I've been waiting for the new expansion, I figure I'd practise with Handbuff paladin. ### Charge Handbuff # Class: Paladin # Format: Wild # # 2x (1) Animated Broomstick # 2x (1) Crystology # 2x (1) Knight of Anointment # 2x (1) Smuggler's Run # 2x (1) Stonetusk Boar # 2x (2) Flash of Light # 2x (2) Grimestreet Outfitter # 2x (2) Hand of A'dal # 2x (3) Alliance Bannerman # 2x (3) Argent Horserider # 2x (3) Catacomb Guard # 2x (3) Righteous Defense # 2x (3) Salhet's Pride # 1x (4) Blademaster Samuro # 1x (4) Cariel Roame # 2x (4) Chillblade Champion # AAEBAYsWAvvoA5HsAw6IBboTs7sC97wC99AC2f4C7IYDlaYDysEDlc0DzOsD8PYD8/YDt4AEAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Have been storming through things with this; there's enough lifesteal to keep yourself alive against odd questline hunter and pirate warrior, and then you wreck them with the insane charge damage. Righteous defence is SO NICE. Even helps negate annoyances like Mutanus, because you can drop the stats right back on to something in hand. A Flash is almost certainly getting swapped for Cariel hero card, and probably another for the Scarlet guy.
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It may not be GOOD, but I’m hyped to try burgle rogue with all the new fun synergy cards
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I've hardly played any HS for weeks and it's months since I touched constructed but if anything could pull me back in it's a new Burgle Rogue, it's still my absolute favourite deck ever
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only 7 legs from 145 packs bleh and one of them was vandar hope alliance wins so i can dust his rear end
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Cry Havoc posted:only 7 legs from 145 packs bleh Did you pick Vandar at the start, because they might offer a full refund when the expansion launches like they did with Mankirk and I think Varian
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My son almost always has best luck in pack openings, but this time he whiffed with only 3 legendaries in about 89 packs. Fortunately one was the Tavish hero which I wanted most from a fun-to-play standpoint, but still. At least I'm right near the pity timer for when we can buy them with gold.
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Jolly Jumbuck posted:My son almost always has best luck in pack openings, but this time he whiffed with only 3 legendaries in about 89 packs. Fortunately one was the Tavish hero which I wanted most from a fun-to-play standpoint, but still. At least I'm right near the pity timer for when we can buy them with gold. Are you me? I only got 2 legendaries in 64 packs, one being goddamn Vanndar on the 2nd pack, then Tavish 36 packs later, then timer sitting at 26 at the moment. I looked through my records from the last few expansions and I usually had 4-5 legos by 60-odd packs. Not that it matters since I'm going to craft most of the set anyway, and also have 32 Wild packs that I can open from a previous purchase once it goes live (since I have every card otherwise).
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Anyone else having this problem during their mulligan? Playing mobile (Android) and it doesn't tell me my opponent's class, and it covers their portrait. Makes things interesting for sure. I think it might have to do with the faction of my opponent, but I have no clue. 
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