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crepeface posted:yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a waste. my plan is to talk her out it. she may want to give her old one to my dad but buying the regular iPad for him would be a way better move has anyone ever successfully talked anyone into going base/air after they owned a pro? the mental barrier seems to be made out pure adamantium.
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my wife went from a 2011 mbp to a m1 air but nobody talked her into it
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Dec 14, 2021 15:27
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my partner started out with a macbook in the 00s and is now on her third air
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Dec 14, 2021 15:30
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m1 air is my girlfriend’s first mac, she really likes it although most of her work is in ms word which isn’t as well supported on macos
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Dec 14, 2021 15:33
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i think word is fine-ish? excel used to be a shitshow, and i don’t quite remember if the proposed codebase unification has happened yet
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Dec 14, 2021 15:36
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jesus WEP posted:m1 air is my girlfriend’s first mac, she really likes it although most of her work is in ms word which isn’t as well supported on macos if all her work is in ms word why did she buy the best computer?
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Dec 14, 2021 15:37
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cinci zoo sniper posted:i think word is fine-ish? excel used to be a shitshow, and i don’t quite remember if the proposed codebase unification has happened yet
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Dec 14, 2021 15:41
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jesus WEP posted:she’s a proofreader, there’s a bunch of gotchas with the macros and such that she’s collected over the years makes sense, i did speculate if she’s an advanced plugins/macros user
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Dec 14, 2021 15:42
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there's a bunch of poo poo in the native o365 suite that just doesn't exist on Mac OS. A lot of features in Excel and even some stuff in OneNote, eg setting/changing page size to fixed instead of auto.
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Dec 14, 2021 15:45
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Lysidas posted:my wife went from a 2011 mbp to a m1 air but nobody talked her into it i went from a 2006 mbp to a 2013 mba. I also went from doing everything on the mbp to having a desktop and laptop setup again and using the mba for lightweight work and the desktop for heavier tasks it doesn't hurt that my mac upgrade cycle is ~7 years. each new machine is like four of the old one in performance, in my case the 2006 was a core duo so it was a whole 32 to 64 change as well. switching to the m processors is going to sink my old mac so bad it isn't even funny (release the beefy mini, tim)
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Dec 14, 2021 15:47
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Hed posted:if you’re talking about the iOS keyboard then my only complaint is that I can’t make the Awful alternate keyboard larger than a few rows when scrolling to find the perfect emoticon for important iMessage conversations. yes in the conversation about ios im talking about the lovely, unusable ios keyboard. the joke being that people are complaining about esoteric features, while just totally consigned to the fact that the most basic poo poo in ios does not work. im not dumb enough to have purchased anything with a physical apple keyboard which i gather they have just in the last year or so decided to make functional
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Dec 14, 2021 15:49
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Lysidas posted:wow i did not expect the base model ipad to be out of stock until the first few days of february, kind of assumed something like "sure come on down to the apple store and pick it up in an hour" Apple is the worst for stock on new products, ironically Best Buy and Target are out but Costco has them in stock right now and they’re $10 cheaper
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Dec 14, 2021 15:54
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FCKGW posted:Apple is the worst for stock on new products, ironically ive usually had the opposite experience, but i guess i havent bought much thats "new", and i did not think the base model ipad counted as "new" got a 12 mini, 12 pro, and m1 macbook air in february of this year, and pretty much went to the apple store that day or the next to pick each thing up
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Dec 14, 2021 17:45
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as a daily user of ms word, it isn't well-supported on any hardware, hth
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Dec 14, 2021 17:48
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the panacea posted:has anyone ever successfully talked anyone into going base/air after they owned a pro? i think you could reasonably talk someone into an air if they were using an 11" pro. probably not if they use a 12.9" tho. base is probably a no-go until they change its design to the match the rest of the line
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Dec 14, 2021 17:53
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Shaggar posted:yes in the conversation about ios im talking about the lovely, unusable ios keyboard. the joke being that people are complaining about esoteric features, while just totally consigned to the fact that the most basic poo poo in ios does not work. i'm bored today. what are your complaints?
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Dec 14, 2021 18:10
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when i hit a key it does a different key than i hit because it thinks its smart and auto predicting. it also auto corrects things to the wrong word and fails to autocorrect misspellings to the right word. this was never a problem in ios 4/5 and i think it just went to absolute poo poo starting with ios 7 or whichever was the one where the hack jony ive took over and brought his real word input device knowledge to ios.
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Dec 14, 2021 18:47
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I do think I’m going crazy sometimes when I’m sure I tapped one letter in iOS but another one gets used.
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Dec 14, 2021 19:00
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yeah the keyboard sucks poo poo. its not you. everyone is just used to it
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Dec 14, 2021 19:03
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Shaggar posted:when i hit a key it does a different key than i hit because it thinks its smart and auto predicting. it also auto corrects things to the wrong word and fails to autocorrect misspellings to the right word. now add multiple languages into the mix (i use 3 on daily basis), and the resulting farce fails to be competitive with the typing experience i had on my sony ericsson xperia arc s in 2012
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Dec 14, 2021 19:08
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Shaggar posted:yeah the keyboard sucks poo poo. its not you. everyone is just used to it SwiftKey is a little better in that it autocompletes a correct word to the wrong one a lot less often, but nothing touches the basically telepathic WP7.5 or 8 ish swipe keyboard. After that everyone added machine learning to them and screwed them up....or maybe changed the ML to be global or something instead of tuned per user. I have no idea how they actually worked, but it seemed that from that point forward I kept getting autocorrected to words I'd never used before and any word longer than about 6 or 8 letters you had to be incredibly deliberate with or just give up on swiping. (I'm including both the last WP keyboard and the ios default one in this).
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Dec 14, 2021 19:13
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the win 10 mobile keyboard was never as bad as ios. i've also tried switfkey and its definitely not good. i wonder if theres a keyboard for ios that doesnt do any kind of ai bullshit and just accepts what you type
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Dec 14, 2021 19:23
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my biggest beef with autocorrect is me dismissing it and it "corrects" the word anyway. yes i meant to yeet and not meat!! i like when it does it twice
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Dec 14, 2021 19:45
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Even timb must bow low before the almighty cost company. Praise be
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Dec 14, 2021 20:12
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turn off autocorrect, it owns
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i have autocorrect off, the touch targets for keys are still loving ridiculous
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Dec 14, 2021 21:27
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i can't type with autocorrect off, but with it on it's also loving annoying, correcting "gently caress" to "duck" 5x in a row or whatever (and even with words without profanity) when i type in another language it's actually fine tho
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Dec 14, 2021 21:37
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Hed posted:if you’re talking about the iOS keyboard then my only complaint is that I can’t make the Awful alternate keyboard larger than a few rows when scrolling to find the perfect emoticon for important iMessage conversations. Didn't know this was a feature, but I want it badly and I'm trying it and it's not working. It says the emoticon has been copied but there's nothing there to paste in the imessage window? Favoriting isn't working either, it favorites them until you close the keyboard and then it's empty again. This is true on 15.1 and I just updated to 15.2 and it's still not working. Is there something I'm missing?
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yeah, a decent phone operating system
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Enderzero posted:Didn't know this was a feature, but I want it badly and I'm trying it and it's not working. It says the emoticon has been copied but there's nothing there to paste in the imessage window? Favoriting isn't working either, it favorites them until you close the keyboard and then it's empty again. This is true on 15.1 and I just updated to 15.2 and it's still not working. Is there something I'm missing? Assuming I can embed an mp4 I just hover to copy and click Paste in the window. There's an app (that icon bar with the Photos, ApplePay) but to get this you have to install it as a Keyboard in Settings. I'm clicking the Globe at the bottom left to bring up the Awful Keyboard:  edit: mp4 upload didn't work, GIF frame rate is halved or something but whatever this shows it. Hed fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Dec 14, 2021 |
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the.worst.part.of.the.ios.keyboard.is.the.stupid.period.being.to.the.right.of.the.spacebar
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the dumbest loving poo poo is how you either have to have a whole bar of dumb imessage "apps" to go to images directly, or you can tap on camera, wait for it to pop up, then tap on images. the ios 12 (?) way where tapping the button brought up small camera and also your images was the best, which is why it had to go away
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:i can't type with autocorrect off, but with it on it's also loving annoying, correcting "gently caress" to "duck" 5x in a row or whatever (and even with words without profanity) just let it type duck people know that it means you tried to type gently caress
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30 TO 50 FERAL HOG posted:the.worst.part.of.the.ios.keyboard.is.the.stupid.period.being.to.the.right.of.the.spacebar super agreed
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30 TO 50 FERAL HOG posted:the.worst.part.of.the.ios.keyboard.is.the.stupid.period.being.to.the.right.of.the.spacebar I think you mean The.Worst.Part.Of.The.Ios.Keyboard.Is.The.Stupid.Period.Being.To.The.Right.Of.The.Spacebar
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like so notably only in certain types of text fields
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imo the browser bar keyboard should have some additional distinction for the change, like the url and email keyboards if you're seeing it on a text field in a webpage, it's likely someone set the type to one of the new html 5 input types that invokes different mobile keyboards for user convenience, for example a phone text field showing a numeric keyboard with phone symbols there used to be some debate on if this was helpful because the context switch wasn't inherently clear to the user (i tend to personally find them annoying), browsers used to all interpret them a little different (ie would add clear buttons to some, chrome would add it's own date picker pop up, android and ios didn't fully overlap on types, lots of little quirks), and because screen readers and accessibility software did nothing with these alternate input types and at times couldn't access the non-standard controls they'd add to a page, so a dev could set one and (if the page isn't accessibly-written or at least clear contextually) screen readers would identify it as a generic input at best and at worst the input would be locked down in such a way that it was effectively inaccessible i should confirm that's still the behavior with voiceover, since it's been a few years, same for desktop reader software. i'd suspect aria attributes and better wcag guidelines would help address the early days issues to some degree, and the consolidation of browser engines reduces the risk of per-platform and per-browser quirks
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30 TO 50 FERAL HOG posted:the.worst.part.of.the.ios.keyboard.is.the.stupid.period.being.to.the.right.of.the.spacebar actually? for me? it's always thinking? I want to put a loving question mark? instead of a comma?
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no the dumbest thing is having the button to switch to emojis move when it's time to switch back to the keyboard.
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