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Baron von Eevl posted:The last sentence gets at this but the rights holders aren't necessarily the songwriter and performers either, it can be just whoever owns the rights to the publishing and master, although the performers always get mechanical royalties. The while thing Taylor Swift has been going through with re-recording her back catalog is that she didn't own the masters so she got very little of the exorbitant fees that the owner was charging, along with no say in how they got used. Indeed, absolutely. For instance, at one point Michael Jackson owned the Beatles catalogue. It just wasn’t directly relevant to the question.
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therattle posted:There are two types of music rights: sync/master (the right to use a performance or version of a song, payable to the performers); and publication (the right to reproduce the music and lyrics as written regardless of who sung them - payable to the songwriters). So if you wanted a cover of a U2 song by Cher you’d need to license publishing from U2 and performance by Cher. They’ll often both insist that they get paid the same, so if one charges a huge amount both get it (and other music rights holders will try and get the same vis-a-vis all other licensed music, so that the highest rate you negotiate applies to ALL licensed music). If you wanted a U2 song sung by U2 you license sync and publishing for both from U2 (or whoever holds their rights). Super interesting. Thanks!
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Semi related: I think Edgar Wright said that the scene in Shaun of the Dead where they're flipping through channels and they're all stuck on "Please Standby for further information screen" was the most expensive shot in the film because they had to pay for each separate channel logo even if it's just shown briefly.
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Baron von Eevl posted:The last sentence gets at this but the rights holders aren't necessarily the songwriter and performers either, it can be just whoever owns the rights to the publishing and master, although the performers always get mechanical royalties. The while thing Taylor Swift has been going through with re-recording her back catalog is that she didn't own the masters so she got very little of the exorbitant fees that the owner was charging, along with no say in how they got used. Legal Eagle did a whole thing on the Taylor Swift rerecordings which also touches on the other questions here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-A_RrOeoWw
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I would like to see this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wxN1T1uxQ2g
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Big fan of the original West Side Story and this new one absolutely blew my mind, maybe one of the finest big screen experiences in the last 5 years for me. If one feels comfortable I highly suggest seeing in the theater, I was not as up on Dune as most (liked it though), but this gave me the big screen magic that so many got from that film.
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Dune is a better movie Bc it has worms
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West Side Story has earworms.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I would like to see this Looks sick. Can't believe Daniels get to direct something that looks that expensive but I'm stoked
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Karloff posted:West Side Story has earworms. The eventual Animorphs movie is going to blow Dune and West Side Story out of the water.
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Karloff posted:earworms. ????????????  ??? 
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They found a bunch of footage from the Thunderbirds in a warehouse in Japan and Hideaki Anno oversaw it's restoration and edited together a compilation of the best clips from the new HD footage which will air on Japanese TV under the title Shin Complete Thunderbirds in advance of the celebration of the 55th anniversary of Thunderbirds next year.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXIjbbet1V4
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I would like to see this 👀 
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I would like to see this This looks amazing and I love it whenever James Hong shows up in something.
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Just you wait til the Dune Broadway musical The stage filled with dancing Fremen
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Just you wait til the Dune Broadway musical dancing out of rhythm
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Just you wait til the Dune Broadway musical I suspect you are referencing the LOTR musical. I got given tickets to that. We left at interval; it was literally laughably bad. The next films on my watch list: Dunc Licorice Pizza West Side Story Power of the Dog banned from Starbucks posted:Super interesting. Thanks! You're very welcome! I like being a know-it-all.
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therattle posted:I suspect you are referencing the LOTR musical. I got given tickets to that. We left at interval; it was literally laughably bad. I had no idea that existed, I just love the idea of a Dune musical Other idea from shitposting: Dune with the soundtrack of Transformers: The Movie
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I had no idea that existed, I just love the idea of a Dune musical I think it disappeared very quickly and very expensively.
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https://twitter.com/joeheenan/status/1470729990941687817?s=21
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Sounds right. Ironically, LotR does have actual songs in it, and a history of musical adaptations. (Where there's a whip, etc)
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It's that time of year where I idly wonder why no one has ever done Flash Gordon: The Film: The Musical.
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There was a great running joke about a Dune puppet musical in the second season of the Duplass brothers’ HBO show Togetherness
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CPL593H posted:This looks amazing and I love it whenever James Hong shows up in something. Even though he gets only one line, he almost redeems the last 5 or so hours of Prey (2017). Almost.
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CPL593H posted:This looks amazing and I love it whenever James Hong shows up in something. And Jonathan Ke Quan's back!
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I once again come to you with a rad underseen stop-motion dinosaur documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fI1Le4xIEg
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Cracked After Hours did a good video pointing out the really egregious stuff and it articulates the hosed up aspects of that movie well, IMO The best part about the Gump books is when Forrest goes to space, but they put the wrong orangutan in the capsule, not the one that's been training with Forrest and his crew, and it freaks out while they're shooting into space and messes things up and they all crash land in rural New Guinea. Forrest and the orangutan and one other member of the crew survive and they're captured by a cannibal tribe and Forrest has to play a daily game of chess with the chief of the tribe, who went to Yale, and if he ever loses everyone gets eaten.
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therattle posted:I think it disappeared very quickly and very expensively. If I recall correctly it was a Spider-Man Turn Out the Dark level disaster that was plagued with technical issues from the numerous special effects which was why it was so expensive in the first place.
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Had to look this up. Seems like they took a maximalist approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaHRFlPCtsU  e: I do remember that there was a rad little Hobbit stage play official adaptation that my school had put on in the 70s or 80s. I remember thinking it was pretty decent after I read it. We also did a high school production with a bunch of poetry and songs that our English teacher put together for speech competition. I was Gandalf 
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"How do we make the hobbits look short? We can't use forced perspective on a stage." "... hire slightly shorter actors and put them in fat suits?"
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Why not simply have everybody else in platform heels?
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ynohtna posted:It's that time of year where I idly wonder why no one has ever done Flash Gordon: The Film: The Musical. You'd have to choose between purchasing the rights to the Queen songs or writing something good enough to replace them. Baron von Eevl posted:"How do we make the hobbits look short? We can't use forced perspective on a stage." 
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feedmyleg posted:Had to look this up. Seems like they took a maximalist approach: IIRC it was a three and a half hour, two-intermission evening that was meant to reboot Toronto as a "second Broadway", which it had been before 9/11 made travel across the border more difficult, and involved a gigantic set of something like 17 elevators and three nested turntables. It was also unfathomably boring, possibly even moreso than the Titanic musical.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:The best part about the Gump books is when Forrest goes to space, but they put the wrong orangutan in the capsule, not the one that's been training with Forrest and his crew, and it freaks out while they're shooting into space and messes things up and they all crash land in rural New Guinea. Forrest and the orangutan and one other member of the crew survive and they're captured by a cannibal tribe and Forrest has to play a daily game of chess with the chief of the tribe, who went to Yale, and if he ever loses everyone gets eaten. You left out the part where the female crew member falls in love with one of the cannibals due to his BBC. It's such a bizarre book.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:IIRC it was a three and a half hour, two-intermission evening that was meant to reboot Toronto as a "second Broadway", which it had been before 9/11 made travel across the border more difficult, and involved a gigantic set of something like 17 elevators and three nested turntables. It was also unfathomably boring, possibly even moreso than the Titanic musical. All I can recall is orcs doing somersaults using sprung shoes.
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Any mention of the LotR musical makes me think of this: https://classic.teamcoco.com/node/118299
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