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Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Chad Sexington posted:

There's no visual indication someone is using the SOFLAM on a vehicle though, right? I've used it a couple times with friends in a squad on comms, but it seems like there's little point with randoms because they'd have to HAPPEN to be pointing at the vehicle I'm painting.

There actually is. Everybody with a stinger or gustav in their loadout (and I think also vehicles with guided weapons) will see a red targeting square around whatever's SOFLAM'd, even when they don't have it equipped. The main constraint is that people with a gustav need to have a direct line of sight to the target, so that tends to inhibit the number of people who could shoot.

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explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Fried Watermelon posted:

Are you not smart enough to know when a game is good or not and need the power of the mob to tell you when you should enjoy a game or not?

Lol oh right I thought this game might have been good until The power of the mob told me otherwise. If I play a game and think it's a pile of poo poo and see 60,000 paying customers also saying the game is poo poo then I have a pretty good indication that it might just not be me. You're being intentionally dense if you don't think there's value in an overwhelmingly negative review of a game that's released in a state like this.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Chad Sexington posted:

There's no visual indication someone is using the SOFLAM on a vehicle though, right? I've used it a couple times with friends in a squad on comms, but it seems like there's little point with randoms because they'd have to HAPPEN to be pointing at the vehicle I'm painting.

They'll have the lock-on diamond on them and visible. Been noticing a lot more people running them lately.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Was running a soflam last night for a couple rounds. Took my teammates a bit to catch on, but once they did, we handily shut down the other team. Does the game give a lock on direction indicator, because no one was able to find me. I wish I actually got points for destruction of designated vehicles and kill assists, cuz younsure don't get poo poo for points running the soflam.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
Yeah only getting spotting points kinda sucks. Same with Rao when he hacks poo poo. Speaking of, Rao owns since the patch, he's great to use on defense on breakthrough.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


explosivo posted:

Lol oh right I thought this game might have been good until The power of the mob told me otherwise. If I play a game and think it's a pile of poo poo and see 60,000 paying customers also saying the game is poo poo then I have a pretty good indication that it might just not be me. You're being intentionally dense if you don't think there's value in an overwhelmingly negative review of a game that's released in a state like this.

So you actually need others to tell you the game is bad? You don't trust your own senses? lol

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Ah, we're going the intentionally dense route, got it. Enjoy your game! :tipshat:

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


explosivo posted:

Ah, we're going the intentionally dense route, got it. Enjoy your game! :tipshat:

I don't own this game because it's not good after having played it for several hours.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
One thing I'd like to see is future content with more specialists, with one of them having the ability to carry two primary weapons instead of a primary and a useless handgun. When I played CoD that was my favorite perk and it was great to have an assault and a sniper, or an assault and a shotgun, or an LMG and a sniper... and since each specialist gets one 'perk' it seems ripe for one of them to have that ability.

Handguns are useless.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

CornHolio posted:

One thing I'd like to see is future content with more specialists, with one of them having the ability to carry two primary weapons instead of a primary and a useless handgun. When I played CoD that was my favorite perk and it was great to have an assault and a sniper, or an assault and a shotgun, or an LMG and a sniper... and since each specialist gets one 'perk' it seems ripe for one of them to have that ability.

Handguns are useless.

I actually rather like the MP28. I use it often since trying to hipfire at someone inside scope range with the AC-42 is a fool's errand.

But sure, that'd be a neat specialist.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

I like the Glock alright, and the little pistol carbine is fun for when I'm carrying an SMG or shotgun. I'd consider using the revolver if it got some truly stupid attachments like .410 shell ammo or something, but as it is I'm not interested in it.

afkmacro
Mar 29, 2009



dog nougat posted:

Was running a soflam last night for a couple rounds. Took my teammates a bit to catch on, but once they did, we handily shut down the other team. Does the game give a lock on direction indicator, because no one was able to find me. I wish I actually got points for destruction of designated vehicles and kill assists, cuz younsure don't get poo poo for points running the soflam.

I noticed that you will occasionally get vehicle kill assists, I would say about 5-10% of the time. But generally speaking if you're playing a map like renewal, you make bank with points by just constantly spotting the frontline.

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Is there any difference between the different barrel attachments that do the same thing? Like 2 different compensators. Is one more effective than the other?

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

RBX posted:

Better for everybody that's it's on sale, never gonna complain about a sale on these overpriced games.

Was this 128 or 64 player?

128 players, but its not my footage and it's from the most recent patch. Just an example of why now was not the time to do a free weekend. Imagine loading up this game because it's free for a few days, you've never played a Battlefield but have played other FPS games and have no built in tolerance for DICE jank.

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

by VideoGames

Fried Watermelon posted:

Are you not smart enough to know when a game is good or not and need the power of the mob to tell you when you should enjoy a game or not?

Why is your posting so poo poo and aggressive?

If regular people who bought the game aren't people I should be listening to, who should I be listening to?


hello internet posted:

Cyberpunk 2077's current rating on steam shows that user reviews are mostly worthless

It actually shows that the review system is far more trustworthy than any other.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

jisforjosh posted:

128 players, but its not my footage and it's from the most recent patch. Just an example of why now was not the time to do a free weekend. Imagine loading up this game because it's free for a few days, you've never played a Battlefield but have played other FPS games and have no built in tolerance for DICE jank.

Those were both from console though. Are people still getting hit reg issues like that on PC? Cos I've never had anything that bad, and even the iffy ones I did occasionally get are mostly gone these days.

Charles 1998 posted:

It actually shows that the review system is far more trustworthy than any other.

which is still a very very low bar.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Dec 17, 2021

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

Chad Sexington posted:

There's no visual indication someone is using the SOFLAM on a vehicle though, right? I've used it a couple times with friends in a squad on comms, but it seems like there's little point with randoms because they'd have to HAPPEN to be pointing at the vehicle I'm painting.

the painting lasts for a while after you unequip the SOFLAM, you actually have enough time to use a supply crate to get your own launcher and lock on to your own soflam

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

Pharmaskittle posted:

I like the Glock alright, and the little pistol carbine is fun for when I'm carrying an SMG or shotgun. I'd consider using the revolver if it got some truly stupid attachments like .410 shell ammo or something, but as it is I'm not interested in it.

Agreed, and burst mode on the glock is great, good enough to almost be a weak primary at ranges under 10-20m. It’s just a pain to have to pull it out, aim and select the fire mode at the beginning of each match. Also the revolver fires and aims so slow to be virtually worthless as a backup, but finishing someone off with a single shot is pretty satisfying.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Mega Comrade posted:

Those were both from console though. Are people still getting hit reg issues like that on PC? Cos I've never had anything that bad, and even the iffy ones I did occasionally get are mostly gone these days.

I've seen a few PC streamers rage over the last couple days when hits just weren't landing. It's still very much an issue.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Fried Watermelon posted:

I don't own this game because it's not good after having played it for several hours.

Ah, finally, common ground

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
That stupid elf game they're tweeting up a storm about doesn't even work. Joined 3 games in a row, all of them were stuck in "0 santas left to hunt" or whatever.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Oh hey free weekend, gonna try this bad game out now.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


jisforjosh posted:

I've seen a few PC streamers rage over the last couple days when hits just weren't landing. It's still very much an issue.

It's super annoying. Even melee seems to miss. Plus getting sparks but no damage against vehicles.

I think that's why I like the LMG so much and shifted back to 40mm on Wildcat, it's less punishing when you just arbitrarily do zero damage due to deeper mags.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"
Looking at player numbers this free weekend so far (granted only 1 day in) the it's about what I expected. Had thought the free weekend would bring the 24 hour peak on Steam to maybe 50-60K max and it's at 37.5K peak with the two busiest to go. It'll be telling to see how many of those players convert to actual purchases vs abandon.

Besides doing a free weekend when the game isn't in the best of shape its kind of odd timing to do it the weekend before Christmas which is a traditionally busy travel weekend.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


jisforjosh posted:

Besides doing a free weekend when the game isn't in the best of shape its kind of odd timing to do it the weekend before Christmas which is a traditionally busy travel weekend.

EA is in denial.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK
Watching a streamer play and from the time he launched the game to the time he is still waiting to load into a hazard zone match is approaching 20 min ahhaha

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Imo right now the best thing they could do for this game is to just starting pumping out remastered classic maps into Portal while they figure out what the gently caress to do about 2042 in the long run.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

veni veni veni posted:

EA is in denial.





veni veni veni posted:

Imo right now the best thing they could do for this game is to just starting pumping out remastered classic maps into Portal while they figure out what the gently caress to do about 2042 in the long run.
Almost no one will play them as long as Portal doesn't give XP

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


The shame about Hazard Zone is that it actually has a lot of potential, but the people who made it clearly don't understand the genre or what makes it fun. It's basically a no stakes tarkov with nothing to do in it. High stakes is basically the entire mission statement of the genre. I've actually had some really good moments in HZ but the overall mode is just so half baked. It shoudl have been much better than it is and it also should have been F2P so it wasn't DOA because BF players are super adverse to anything that isn't in their comfort zone.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

veni veni veni posted:

The shame about Hazard Zone is that it actually has a lot of potential, but the people who made it clearly don't understand the genre or what makes it fun. It's basically a no stakes tarkov with nothing to do in it. High stakes is basically the entire mission statement of the genre. I've actually had some really good moments in HZ but the overall mode is just so half baked. It shoudl have been much better than it is and it also should have been F2P so it wasn't DOA because BF players are super adverse to anything that isn't in their comfort zone.

Yup. I would love for a competent studio to give me a tarkov alternative because I hate tarkov but love those kinds of games (hunt showdown is good for example).

Watching this streamer play HZ to see if its any better and its still god awful, plus the game crashed when he opened his map lol

Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

veni veni veni posted:

EA is in denial.

I’m not sure if it’s that or a case of “the ship is on fire but we have a schedule to maintain”. It is frustrating that the game still has really bad controller input lag and rubberbanding issues from an “animation bug” that makes close quarters combat feel really lovely, meanwhile they’re releasing a holiday game mode that doesn’t even loving work.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

comedyblissoption posted:

pkp is a better shootymans lmg than the lcmg, but the lcmg has underbarrel grenade launchers which are actually really good including the shotgun underbarrel

remember the lmgs are worse than smgs and ars in fair engagements and require using bipod or blasting your huge mag through smokes to have a straight up fight in your favor

irish lets you use a bipod effectively pretty much anywhere

There's a convenience factor where it's easier to "hold down and drag cursor over enemy without having to worry much about reloading" than it is to have to actual time your shots to hit a moving enemy.

I think it's just a matter of different weapons having different skill curves, and I've basically accepted after years of trying to play games like this that I'll never be able to handle the "high skill ceiling" weapons. I just don't have the reflexes to time my mouse clicks with the moments when my reticle is in the correct position, while with the LMG I just need to make sure it passes over them enough. While this is also somewhat true with some SMGs/ARs, I'm more likely to run out of ammo quickly and get owned.

(the one exception to this is the BF5 Jungle Carbine which I was actually pretty good with for some reason, not sure why)

Cyks
Mar 17, 2008

The trenches of IT can scar a muppet for life

veni veni veni posted:

Imo right now the best thing they could do for this game is to just starting pumping out remastered classic maps into Portal while they figure out what the gently caress to do about 2042 in the long run.

The best thing they can do is separate Portal from the game and just abandon / apologize for 2042. They’re in a pretty lovely spot if the majority of players that have stuck with the game feel that 64p is way better than 128p cause what do you do at that point? Spend time and money creating more massive 128p maps that people don’t want or make 64p maps and gently caress over your current playlist?

Make portal the new game and make 64p maps out of the existing ones while porting more from previous games. You can make a live service out of portal to appease your shareholders, it isn’t very difficult.

And just scrap Hazard Zone completely. EA/Dice need to learn to scrap poo poo that isn’t working during development instead of squeezing out whatever turd they can muster. I do think that HZ had potential but drat, there's a reason they waited until the last minute to announce it and NONE of the promotional/advertisement material talked about. They knew how bad it was.

Cyks fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Dec 17, 2021

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


Anecdotal (therefore totally useless) and region specific to SE Asia, but my personal experience with 2042 is that I'm often getting put into servers that are waiting for players, and then it takes an unusually long time for that server to spin up. Sometimes it gets to the point I just quit and requeue. I don't know if that means we're waiting for people to join, the spin up process takes a long time, or it is bugging out and hanging, or what.

But what I do know is that it is taking me on average longer to get into a game than it ever did in BF3/4/1/V. Part of that is the lack of a server browser and relying on matchmaking (though p. sure either 1 or V didn't launch with a browser and I don't remember sitting around this long in matchmaking), but it does make me suspect that player count is generally not great, despite crossplay. I've also been dumped into Aussie servers a fair bit, which to my brain reads as "there aren't enough people in SEA queuing to spin up a regional server, so it's pushing me to the next closest".

All of this is to say that between Steam numbers and with EA hiding their stats, the subjective feel is not a great one. I've had it a couple of times where two or three queues in a row I'm put in a server waiting for players and it never spins up, so I just don't play the game.

And don't get me started on Hazard Zone. I've managed to get into only 2 matches out of maybe 12 to 15 queues, mostly because the queues just seem to stall out. Considering how popular Battlefields have been in my region in the past, it's not really a great sign, whether it's people just not playing or lovely bugs plaguing matchmaking.

I've never encountered a full Official Portal Experience (TM) conquest map, it's always like 6 vs 5, though Rush atm is a guaranteed quick queue.

This is coming from someone who for the most part enjoys the game -- I wish I had more free time to play. But when I've only got an hour of time peppered here and there throughout the week, spending 15 minutes futzing about in matchmaking really kills the vibe.

Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Dec 17, 2021

Propaganda Hour
Aug 25, 2008



after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"

Skyarb posted:

Yup. I would love for a competent studio to give me a tarkov alternative because I hate tarkov but love those kinds of games (hunt showdown is good for example).

Watching this streamer play HZ to see if its any better and its still god awful, plus the game crashed when he opened his map lol

Careful with posts like this. I said HZ was poo poo a month ago and a poster went "well obviously you just don't like Tarkov-likes" as if HZ was worth a drat, especially with the absolute trash weapon balance at launch.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Tbf I remember that post and everything you described made it sound like you hadn't played that type of game and everything you were complaining about made it sound like you just wouldn't like those games in general. If you were complaining about the nuances of why HZ specifically was a bad Tarkov clone they probably wouldn't have told you that.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
If ya got Prime there's a Twitch Prime thing

https://gaming.amazon.com/loot/battlefield2042

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

I forgot about HZ tbh

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Hot Diggity! posted:

If ya got Prime there's a Twitch Prime thing

https://gaming.amazon.com/loot/battlefield2042

This is a pretty cool skin but I'm not sure I want to be bright orange in a game where it's already nearly impossible to hide lol.

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VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Skyarb posted:

And yet you're still playing 2042 :thinking:

I think your projecting, buddy. I went on vacation for 3 weeks on the 10th and when I came back there’s no one to play with.

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