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WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

comedyblissoption posted:

does soflam increase the damage of the rocket/stinger to make up for not carrying one yourself

the rocket launcher definitely does huge damage to aircraft compared to landcraft, even if not painted

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Booyah- posted:

the rocket launcher definitely does huge damage to aircraft compared to landcraft, even if not painted

it's either a 1hk on smaller stuff or it does a massive chunk to like the transports

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the vcar is the worst gun in the game with no conceivable niche

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

the vcar is the worst gun in the game with no conceivable niche

How can you say that when the lever action exists. Why yes, I would like a gun with the same damage as the DMR but less than half the rate of fire :psyduck:

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


I kind of like the vcar, it reminds me of the M1917s from BF1.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Perestroika posted:

How can you say that when the lever action exists. Why yes, I would like a gun with the same damage as the DMR but less than half the rate of fire :psyduck:
the lever action shoots at like over twice the fire rate of the dmr

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

I really have fun playing around with the vcar, but it's trash. The carbine pistol basically does its job without using your primary slot

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

if you want to use the vcar, use the ac42 in single shot mode instead which actually shoots faster, has a better ranged damage profile, has much lesser kick per shot, has better weapon deviation, has a single direction recoil pattern instead of randomly both directions, can equip underbarrel grenades, and can switch to burst fire

now to be fair, it could be because the ac42 is overtuned

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

the lever action shoots at like over twice the fire rate of the dmr

I'm fully prepared to believe that the ingame stats are lying to me, but they've got the lever action at 92 RPM, with the DM7 at 300 and the SVK at 180, and in practice that about felt correct. :shrug:

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Really enjoying the M5A3 with the short barrel for a change. Absolutely reams anyone up close.

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

i-i like the lever action. it’s damage and rof are fine it just needs 1 or 2 extras rounds in the tube and maybe better min damage

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Perestroika posted:

I'm fully prepared to believe that the ingame stats are lying to me, but they've got the lever action at 92 RPM, with the DM7 at 300 and the SVK at 180, and in practice that about felt correct. :shrug:
oh my bad I meant it shoots much faster than the dxr sniper

the lever action does shoot slower, but it has a huge significant distinction from the DM7/svk in that it kills in a single headshot making it much more like a short-ranged sniper rifle so it does actually have a niche

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

oh my bad I meant it shoots much faster than the dxr sniper

the lever action does shoot slower, but it has a huge significant distinction from the DM7/svk in that it kills in a single headshot making it much more like a short-ranged sniper rifle so it does actually have a niche

Oh, it can do one-shot headshots? I could've sworn I'd gotten a couple headshot indicators without a kill before. Okay yeah, in that case I suppose there's a niche for it.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



comedyblissoption posted:

oh my bad I meant it shoots much faster than the dxr sniper

the lever action does shoot slower, but it has a huge significant distinction from the DM7/svk in that it kills in a single headshot making it much more like a short-ranged sniper rifle so it does actually have a niche

Yea, if you are good at clicking on heads the lever action is great for out to 100m or so. After that the min spread being more than 0 and the bullet drop off become noticeable.

Hell, the revolver with a scope is basically just as good since it can 1 hit kill with headshots out to 40m and it shoots slightly faster. Probably reloads faster from empty too :v:

I'd probably still rather use the SWS-10 since it reloads waaaay faster. Also it always kills in 2 shots regardless of distance.

Lube Enthusiast posted:

i-i like the lever action. it’s damage and rof are fine it just needs 1 or 2 extras rounds in the tube and maybe better min damage

I want to love it but it has let me down(and I am not good enough at clicking heads). :smith:

e: Give it a rof boost and great hipfire accuracy so I can do this:

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Dec 21, 2021

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the pump action slug also kills with 1 headshot at < 75 distance

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

comedyblissoption posted:

the pump action slug also kills with 1 headshot at < 75 distance

The pump action with frag rounds makes gives you a round that does more damage than the Wildcat

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

SolarFire2 posted:

What's really funny is his side is losing most of the battles while he and his pals are sitting somewhere sniping instead of playing the goddamn objectives.

I actually see a decent amount of coordination in chats these days about SOFLAM. People asking for it, or if you mention you're using it, people will acknowledge and look to exploit it.

The problem I run into is that unlike those epic lads in the video, if you try and stand around soflamming within range on most maps, you're going to get beamed often enough that you can't consistently keep a target up. It's still occasionally worth doing, especially with a human squad.

Maybe it's more useful on Conquest, but I haven't played that since like Day 1.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqgeWQA9niY

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Hell yes time for some reverse skeet shooting

Mang Tomas
Jan 9, 2007
Game is $39.99 right now on steam.

How is it for PC? Is it worth it if you loved BF4 (at this price)?

More Importantly are people still playing? Hearing the maps filled with bots concerned me.

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.

nightwisher posted:

Considering I almost never see anyone but me using the SOFLAM and nobody ever fires rockets at my marked targets, yeah it is a revelation for a lot of clueless players.

These are the type of people who will never use it anyway.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

Mang Tomas posted:

Game is $39.99 right now on steam.

How is it for PC? Is it worth it if you loved BF4 (at this price)?

More Importantly are people still playing? Hearing the maps filled with bots concerned me.

I've never seen a bot outside of silly custom game modes. The problems are real but as someone who only really last loved the series when it was 3/4, I'm still having a blast

edit: ymmv on bots if you're in some benighted euro zone or only play in extreme off hours

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001




I only knew about the boost using Angel's crate. Gonna hop up on everything now thx pal.

Mang Tomas
Jan 9, 2007
How’s the specialists? It’s the main reason I skipped this BF launch for the first time. Bugs can get fixed but this one feels like a huge change.

DrPop
Aug 22, 2004


Mang Tomas posted:

How’s the specialists? It’s the main reason I skipped this BF launch for the first time. Bugs can get fixed but this one feels like a huge change.

not much different than classes in the long run and the only point at which they make me wince is when the MVPs' specialists do their awful cringe comments at the end of a round

FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.

Mang Tomas posted:

How’s the specialists? It’s the main reason I skipped this BF launch for the first time. Bugs can get fixed but this one feels like a huge change.

The abilities are pretty cool but the visual and audio design for them is pretty bad Imo.

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

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Mang Tomas posted:

How’s the specialists? It’s the main reason I skipped this BF launch for the first time. Bugs can get fixed but this one feels like a huge change.

The Specialists are lame, but they don't detract from the Battlefield experience too much. They're like Jar Jar Binks, where they get all the flak while real problems are much more nuanced.

DrPop
Aug 22, 2004


The forward-facing 30mm cannon for the Hokum pilot is extremely good.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Mang Tomas posted:

Game is $39.99 right now on steam.

How is it for PC? Is it worth it if you loved BF4 (at this price)?

More Importantly are people still playing? Hearing the maps filled with bots concerned me.

Easily the worst battlefield to date. But if you really really want battlefield there probably isn't anything else to scratch the itch. The game so bad I returned it twice.

Specialists suck rear end and the game would have been better with just classes.

You're also at a weird point in this thread's life cycle. This game launched terribly. https://steamcharts.com/app/1517290#All

Other than the free weekend injecting a bit of new players into the pool the population is dying FAST. Most people who bought it, returned it or moved on and aren't posting here because they'd rather be playing a good game instead. There are a few people who are still managing to have fun and they have remained, so you are going to get a number of fairly "its got problems but its a good time" type posts, but its not really the full picture. the 33% on steam is probably a much better picture of the games current state.

Skyarb fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 21, 2021

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008

Mang Tomas posted:

Game is $39.99 right now on steam.

How is it for PC? Is it worth it if you loved BF4 (at this price)?

More Importantly are people still playing? Hearing the maps filled with bots concerned me.

I'm not playing but I'd say it's work $40 but I'm waiting till late winter or spring before I give it another shot. Most of my fun has come through Portal and legacy content.

Mang Tomas
Jan 9, 2007

DrPop posted:

not much different than classes in the long run and the only point at which they make me wince is when the MVPs' specialists do their awful cringe comments at the end of a round

Couldn’t you pick any primary and secondary weapons though with specialists? That’s a big change over classes I’d say unless I got that info wrong.

Is the gun play feel as good as BFV?

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Noonsa posted:

Okay, I know this is nitpicking but this story doesn't make any sense at all.

Russians see some weapon being developed in Canada and they loving land troops in Canada to occupy a US/Canada base on Canadian sovereign territory? How is this still a proxy war?

Wouldn't that be nuke-worthy antagonism?

My favorite level plot is the one where they're like "Russia is doing cyber-attacks from this location, so we're physically invading them in response"

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Mang Tomas posted:

Game is $39.99 right now on steam.

How is it for PC? Is it worth it if you loved BF4 (at this price)?

More Importantly are people still playing? Hearing the maps filled with bots concerned me.

It's fun, haven't run into any issues with maps not being filled either on the main non-gimmicky modes. A lot of the user created stuff is either zombies or trying to make hardcore-type modes. I have no issues with performance, but know that it is VERY CPU dependent.

E:

Mang Tomas posted:

Couldn’t you pick any primary and secondary weapons though with specialists? That’s a big change over classes I’d say unless I got that info wrong.

Is the gun play feel as good as BFV?


Yes you can choose any primary and secondary. Some specialists lend themselves to certain playstyles and weapon types better than others, but there's nothing preventing Casper from running a shotgun. You can pretty much turn any specialist into any class and save those templates.

Gunplay is a bit weaker than BFV, little more like BF4 I'd say.

Biggest problems IMO are tied to progression and unlocks. Just not a ton of stuff to unlock and the weapon stuff is pretty marginal.

Hot Diggity! fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Dec 21, 2021

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Mang Tomas posted:

Couldn’t you pick any primary and secondary weapons though with specialists? That’s a big change over classes I’d say unless I got that info wrong.

Is the gun play feel as good as BFV?

Yes and no. Anyone can rock any equipment, but specialists have specific perks that might make them better at a specific "class". So there are like two specialists who have medic like abilities (armor, and heal gun). But some just have like a wingsuit or grappling hook. Specialist balance is pretty out of whack though with some clear stand outs.

No. IMO the gunplay feels significantly worse than bfv.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Ytlaya posted:

My favorite level plot is the one where they're like "Russia is doing cyber-attacks from this location, so we're physically invading them in response"

Isn't it "the US is doing cyber attacks from Korea, so Russia lands Hinds to invade a city in Korea"

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Angel does it again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTO6Jn-VuTE

And again!

(And again)

toggle fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Dec 21, 2021

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


The class system works like this:

One specialist throws you a pouch that does ammo and armor overheals, and also can revive any teammates, and can also remotely drop a BF4 commander box (team loadout change with instant refills), that also lets you have cover anywhere outdoors or climb to new locations. This box lets you use any gadgets, so drop a spawn beacon for your squad before switching back to a SOFLAM. Hell you can SOFLAM an enemy vehicle then switch to your own rocket launcher.

Or you can be the other specialists whose abilities mostly help themselves and only work ~75% of the time.

Angel does it again! :sickos:

Chronojam fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Dec 21, 2021

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Mang Tomas posted:

Game is $39.99 right now on steam.

How is it for PC? Is it worth it if you loved BF4 (at this price)?

More Importantly are people still playing? Hearing the maps filled with bots concerned me.

Play 10 hours for $4.99 or whatever EA Play is to see if you like it

I honestly can't recommend the game for purchase to any of my friends and gaming buddies but will always say "hey maybe something in it will scratch that itch for you but it didn't for me" and suggest the trial route.

jisforjosh fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Dec 21, 2021

Uriah Heep
Apr 28, 2010

im having a bit of an existential crisis here guys
I think the game is super fun, with the occasional annoying bugs and the ever present specter of DICE engineering. Sadly the game is optimized pretty poorly for a lot of machines so I would also say try it before you buy it.

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FastestGunAlive
Apr 7, 2010

Dancing palm tree.
You can use any of the guns with any specialist. Also there’s twelve guns.

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