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Did the 'we can dud a torpedo in mid-flight at the literal flick of the wrist' thing come up at all before in the series? Seems like a pretty stupid thing to have, NGL. Bobbi had Marco dead to rights and Holden's just like "naaaah, overruled."
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Dec 26, 2021 03:58
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having not read strange dogs, i very much misread the opening the first time around, thinking "wait, what, did the dogs... kill xan offscreen somehow? why?" i am extremely oblivious to basic foreshadowing
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Dec 26, 2021 04:06
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Mister Speaker posted:Did the 'we can dud a torpedo in mid-flight at the literal flick of the wrist' thing come up at all before in the series? Seems like a pretty stupid thing to have, NGL. Bobbi had Marco dead to rights and Holden's just like "naaaah, overruled." I assume the book had motivation for Holden and the scene but it's just a plot armor contrivance because it's only episode 3 and it was dumb.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:08
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Mister Speaker posted:Did the 'we can dud a torpedo in mid-flight at the literal flick of the wrist' thing come up at all before in the series? Seems like a pretty stupid thing to have, NGL. Bobbi had Marco dead to rights and Holden's just like "naaaah, overruled." Yeah the torpedoes can be completely remote controlled. They've used that before. Bip Roberts posted:I assume the book had motivation for Holden and the scene but it's just a plot armor contrivance because it's only episode 3 and it was dumb. Indeed. Why would this man not murder his girlfriend's kid right in front of her? It's impossible to know.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:14
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Marco was easily caught off screen in season 4 by some other Belters. I don't think he's that good.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:19
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He's already destroyed Earth. It'd be satisfying to kill him, but it's not really going to change much at this point.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:23
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Mister Speaker posted:Did the 'we can dud a torpedo in mid-flight at the literal flick of the wrist' thing come up at all before in the series? Seems like a pretty stupid thing to have, NGL. Bobbi had Marco dead to rights and Holden's just like "naaaah, overruled." we've seen the ability to control/override ship systems from the wristcom thing. and some IRL modern long-range missiles (and undersea, wire-guided torpedoes) can be safed (or at least detonated short of the target) by remote command. it's not really much of a hand-wave IMO in this situation weapons control is a logical enough thing to have precued on your handheld, but i admit the least believable part is holden's speed in hitting that button. otoh he had time to think about it while the missiles were in flight and pull up the interface. also bobbi should be able to figure it out immediately by pulling the logs, it has holden's name on the command right there in what we're shown i guess we'll see if it comes up in the next episode, otherwise maybe she just trusts holden at his word enough not to check (oops) Kesper North fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Dec 26, 2021 |
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Dec 26, 2021 04:39
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Grand Fromage posted:Indeed. Why would this man not murder his girlfriend's kid right in front of her? It's impossible to know. He's willing to shoot a rail gun at him, he's willing to shoot a torpedo, but then he stealthy disables it so she thinks he only wanted to kill them. It's dumb and out of character and obviously just written to prolong the plot.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:54
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Bip Roberts posted:He's willing to shoot a rail gun at him, he's willing to shoot a torpedo, but then he stealthy disables it so she thinks he only wanted to kill them. It's dumb and out of character and obviously just written to prolong the plot. Yeah but Felip hadn’t done his little peekaboo
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Dec 26, 2021 04:57
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Bip Roberts posted:He's willing to shoot a rail gun at him, he's willing to shoot a torpedo, but then he stealthy disables it so she thinks he only wanted to kill them. It's dumb and out of character and obviously just written to prolong the plot.
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Dec 26, 2021 04:59
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It's like in an rpg where you brutally murder 50 minions and then the big bad actual hitler makes a speech and you let him live so you have to fight him again powered up in the next dungeon.
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Dec 26, 2021 05:02
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Bip Roberts posted:It's like in an rpg where you brutally murder 50 minions and then the big bad actual hitler makes a speech and you let him live so you have to fight him again powered up in the next dungeon. that's literally actual real life politics tbh
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Dec 26, 2021 05:08
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Bip Roberts posted:He's willing to shoot a rail gun at him, he's willing to shoot a torpedo, but then he stealthy disables it so she thinks he only wanted to kill them. It's dumb and out of character and obviously just written to prolong the plot. It's because Holden didn't want to kill Filip in front of Naomi *if he didn't have to* and you don't have to read the books to figure out they're probably gonna talk about this I am not enjoying this season but this is a real dumb thing to get hung up on it's not out of character at all. Also this episode drove home to me how senseless the Dawes killing offscreen is, they're basically having all the actors from previous seasons zoom in their parts (Anna, Prax) so I mean Jared Harris probably could have done that the way he did one of the other seasons
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Dec 26, 2021 06:22
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it was in the script
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Dec 26, 2021 07:07
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I still can't get over Filip sliding into view. It's so awkward.
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Dec 26, 2021 08:07
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I loving laughed out loud when it happened. He's just like "bro, no mad plz?"
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Dec 26, 2021 08:12
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This is exactly what Holden would loving do.
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Dec 26, 2021 08:37
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Kesper North posted:I loving laughed out loud when it happened. He's just like "bro, no mad plz?" Right? I get that it needed to be overtly communicated that Filip was on the ship and that his presence caused a crisis for Holden and team but him leaning into frame was awkward as hell.
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Dec 26, 2021 08:42
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Bip Roberts posted:He's willing to shoot a rail gun at him, he's willing to shoot a torpedo, but then he stealthy disables it so she thinks he only wanted to kill them. It's dumb and out of character and obviously just written to prolong the plot. I resent your implication that "dumb" is somehow out of character for Holden.
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Dec 26, 2021 09:29
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Holden's been much more hard hearted before in the series. And yeah, the Filip slide into frame was just the most schlocky low imagination way of doing what they wanted to do.
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Dec 26, 2021 09:47
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Could have been so easily fixed by having Marco deliberately angle the camera so his son is in frame, as a piece of lovely emotional manipulation / gently caress you.
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Dec 26, 2021 11:37
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Open Source Idiom posted:Could have been so easily fixed by having Marco deliberately angle the camera so his son is in frame, as a piece of lovely emotional manipulation / gently caress you. This is exactly how it happens in the book btw. Holden calls Marco to distract him while Alex/Bobbie do the 360 no scope poo poo, and Marco switches his camera to Filip to gently caress with Holden. But they're so high G that no one is talking which doesn't translate well to screen. Holden is stuck staring into high g melty face teenage male Naomi's eyes as Alex/Bonnie do the torpedo/railgun/PDC trick on the Pella.
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Dec 26, 2021 12:03
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Open Source Idiom posted:Could have been so easily fixed by having Marco deliberately angle the camera so his son is in frame, as a piece of lovely emotional manipulation / gently caress you. He does? Looking at the shot Marco is not centered in frame, Philip is exposed over his shoulder because of this. I thought that was one of the (numerous) reasons he lost his poo poo in the end. He was saved by the presence of his son.
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Dec 26, 2021 15:12
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everydayfalls posted:He does? That’s how it read to me on-screen as well. After he did his “murder your mother” trick with Filip, he was pulling a trick that would either force them to spare his ship or mean that Naomi would have to live with seeing her son die. Hostage-taking plus a “gently caress you” into the bargain.
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Dec 26, 2021 16:25
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everydayfalls posted:He does? Ah, yeah. It's not that he moves the camera, it's that he himself moves -- I think what threw me is that Filip also slides into shot simultaneously, and I focused on him moving and not on Marco. I'd have blocked it slightly differently, but yeah, I think I have a better understanding of the intention of the scene now.
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Dec 26, 2021 16:26
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When is somebody going to die by hitting their head in Marco's fancy ship? The set is so dumb and there's only like one foot-wide impact strip on the railings
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Dec 26, 2021 17:32
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Beltaosha?
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Dec 26, 2021 17:36
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I thought Filip coming into frame was fine.
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Centrist Committee posted:Beltaosha? 
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:it was in the script And the book, OMG BOOK SPOILERS OMG. Though it looks like you're a book reader so it'd be more helpful if you quote what you're responding to. For the other guy, they're not being shot at actively and Naomi has repeatedly expressed reservation at killing even Marco's extemists. Itt's not at all out of character that he would think about not killing the son of the person he cares about more than anybody, even his 9 dads and moms. It makes complete sense. James Holden has never made the best decisions. If he'd never sent that one message that led to "remember the Cant" there may well have never been a first war which led to millions dying and Deimos being blown up. But he's a human and his partner is right there and he chose to not let her watch her son die right in front of her, which I think makes complete sense. Him sliding into view was stupid as gently caress though, and was purely for the benefit of people watching the show who aren't thinking about it enough to know that they both know Filip is on the ship. Especially the way they kept cutting back and forth between him and Holden and Naomi and him staring at the camera. God this is a bad season. What a bad way to go out for a great show. I think Amazon is right to not trust them with the real Laconia arc for the $300 million it would cost. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Dec 26, 2021 |
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Dec 26, 2021 18:17
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Nail Rat posted:God this is a bad season. What a bad way to go out for a great show. I think Amazon is right to not trust them with the real Laconia arc for the $300 million it would cost.  You maniacs! You blew it up! God drat you! God drat you all to hell!!
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Dec 26, 2021 20:01
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Lol at the long scene of Camina kicking Michio off her ship last week only for them to spend all episode in the same room this week
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Dec 26, 2021 21:09
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Mameluke posted:Lol at the long scene of Camina kicking Michio off her ship last week only for them to spend all episode in the same room this week This is the kind of poo poo that makes you insane. You have NO TIME TO WASTE but we’ve had weepy Michio for like 20 minutes so far this season.
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Dec 26, 2021 22:38
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Pirate Queen Drummer owns though. And I really like her tense alliance with the dodgy Golden Bough guy. Really nice look at the OPA situation and mindset. Not the most important thing with 3 episodes left though,but I'm choosing to ignore that for ohhh, the next two episodes.
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Dec 27, 2021 00:10
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Of course, Drummer is the best character. But I want to see her do poo poo!
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Dec 27, 2021 01:09
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Mameluke posted:Of course, Drummer is the best character. But I want to see her do poo poo! I would be willing to wager next week you will get your wish! Seems like as a broad outline we will see Ep4 Marco is further undermined by drumer taking his poo poo from right under his nose Ep5 Marco strikes back! His new proto molecule based ships messing up our hero’s plans Ep6 Holden and co trench run that poo poo and the day is saved! Is this totally wrong? Who knows! It a best guess based on the available evidence.
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Dec 27, 2021 01:30
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Mameluke posted:Of course, Drummer is the best character. But I want to see her do poo poo! Building a Pirate Armada takes time
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Dec 27, 2021 01:40
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ApeHawk posted:Building a Pirate Armada takes time A Telltale series was a mistake. "Sid Meier's Expanse!" was the optimal play.
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piL posted:A Telltale series was a mistake. "Sid Meier's Expanse!" was the optimal play. I would be so down for this. I can taste the pixels.
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