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Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006
My wife loved the first season of Dickinson, and I liked it quite a bit, but we both felt our interest waning during the second season and drifted away before finishing it. I don't keep our Apple TV subscription year-round, but next time we resubscribe, I'm sure we will finally binge the rest of the show.

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
The third season is probably the best. Some really excellent episodes.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Yeah I felt like it got better as it went along. It's definitely not a show that will impact on everyone as strongly as it does on me in fairness

e: I don't know if you got to the opera episode in season 2 but that was definitely the point where everything kicked up a notch for me

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
The dance party episode in the first season was when I "got" the show; though I think the first season finale isn't all that hot tbh, and kinda drags down the season.

It's a weird show, because for all that I liked the characters, I really never felt like the show's central couple were better together than they were apart. Dickinson should have hooked up with Louisa May Alcott IMO. They felt like a better fit.

Edit: this isn't Couch Chat, gonna throw up some spoilerbars.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
I feel like I have heard a lot of praise for Dickinson lately, it never seemed like a show for me, but I think I will give it a shot.

TelevisedInsanity
Dec 19, 2008

"You'll never know if you can fly unless you take the risk of falling."
Alrighty, I did all my calculations, and while I don't think this is really the ultimate best of list, if I had to do a cross between that "ten shows to get to know me" and "shows I got the most out of from 2011-2021" these twenty will be my winners.

20. Comedy Bang Bang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3B5cOgfSvI
I really love CBB, so seeing a television version this decade was just one of the greatest television moments. Lots of amazing parodies of television genres, in addition to the talk show format, it made for a really great series.

19. Black Mirror
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDiYGjp5iFg
The 2010s felt like a decade where I grew up alot with Charlie Brooker, from "Screenwipe" to "Newswipe" to "Dead Set" to his horror anthology series "Black Mirror". Yes, there was a reboot of "The Twilight Zone", but ultimately, so many episodes from Black Mirror, from "San Junipero" to "One Million Merits" to "Nosedive" feel so common and real, that I think audiences forgot how uncanny some of the predictions were holding. We're only one glitch away from robot dogs attacking us.

18. Cutthroat Kitchen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6adDBT-hw
The decade was full of culinary contests, and a few of them will make this list, but one of my favorites was "Cutthroat Kitchen" a cooking show where people have to make the same dish, but using their own prize money, auction for advantages in order to sabotage their opponents and advance in the game. It was one really clever and tricky competition series that I felt didn't get it's time in the sun.

17. Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uloT8V6Skgk
Review is a justifiable classic series, it never outstayed it's welcome, and had a cohesive arc about Forrest McNeil, the lengths one person would go to be a "life reviewer" and the consequences of that actions. Just a really fantasic comedy series, where the "Eat 15 pancakes" "divorce" "Eat 30 pancakes" is a hall of fame episode.

16. The Eric Andre Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAQfEFUfN1o
The unfortunate part of when you get older is you aren't "young enough" to fit that demo, so sometimes you feel like you're "too old" for Adult Swim. While Adult Swim was still such a great block of shows and people will namedrop classics like "Rick & Morty" and "Tim & Eric Awesome Show Great Job", one of my favorites was Eric Andre and his really surreal talk show. I know I am saying "surreal" so much in this, but it's I guess the kind of humor I enjoy. Eric Andre had this nice blend of comedy from the talk shows, to pranks, to sketches that it just felt like a crazy chaotic flawless series.

15. Bojack Horseman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1eJMig5Ik4
While people have a hit-or-miss reaction to the show's ending. Bojack Horseman still felt like an interesting adult animation. From the downward spiral of stardom, to how random Hollywoo could be in it's celebrity, right down to a case study on Mr. Peanutbutter and the false-optimism that world brings people. It gets really emotional at moments, but in a way that I felt like revisiting last year, and I'm glad I did.

14. What We Do In The Shadows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGQChk9zGyQ
The funny vampire show. It was one of my favorite series to debut this decade, from it's hilarious characters, to it's mockumentary presentation. What We Do In The Shadows is exactly the kind of show I needed during the Halloween Spooky Months that's not quite horror, and not quite jumpscares. Just a right amount of shenanigans for a person to get interested in watching!

13. I Think You Should Leave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgqCivFPbAE
Tim Robinson is a comedy genius, sketch comedy is really hard to perfect, and I think the modern day world of sketch is really an uphill battle, as SNL is pretty much the only game on network, and streaming services have to compete with youtube and tiktok sketches such as "lady who lipsyncs to young adult shows" and "two dudes calling each other slurs". Luckily, Netflix took a chance on I Think You Should Leave, and as far as I know, it is paying off through the online social media world of memes. Just a mention of "Sloppy Steaks" or the Hot Dog Man brings laughs.

12. AEW Dynamite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAAKVDDEUU
PSP Goons probably will get upset because "Lucha Underground", but I am PAID BY TK TO SAY THIS (no i'm not) AEW Dynamite has served for the last few years to be "The Alternative to WWE", so much so, it lead to WWE making a developmental brand online into a national show, then a failed national show so everybody is practically fired and lead to them reliving 1996 all over again. The wrestling product is a hundred times better, and doing something WWE hasn't been doing that much - rewarding long time viewers with payoffs to storylines. Turns out if you know people are aligned in groups, it means something.

11. The Genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12TwC3cZzQo
Something Awful TVIV loved watching The Genius this decade, it was the only real 'game show' event that wasn't Ramsay, Big Brother, Survivor, or Amazing Race. Lots of really clever gameplay that was a cross between Liars Game and every tabletop night you've ever had. Each episode had a new game, involving some test of Game Theory, and the ones who can crack the gamebreaking puzzles advance, while those that relied on luck or social, sometimes got stuck in an indian poker elimination game, it truly was the game of Beautiful Defeats and Ugly Victories.

10. Attack of the Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE9hlchp55w
This is the one that's the "bit of personal", because in 2012, Attack of the Show ended, and G4 went away. And originally I was thinking of leaving it there as "the memory show" because it was one of the few shows that highlighted "nerd culture" and "geeky stuff" before it really exploded into superstardom with all the DCTV shows, MCU films and adaptations of comic books you vaguely remember reading. However, G4 got rebooted in 2021 so nearly one decade later, Attack of the Show returned with it's variety format of news, skits, stunts and more. It's one of the wildest things to see, a reboot happen less than a decade of it last airing, but the same could be said about Deal or No Deal, and even though I'm a game show nerd. SPOILER ALERT - it's not on this list.

9. How To With John Wilson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG1i-gALy18
John Wilson's documentary style and comedy is really just top notch. I could compare it to "Nathan For You" and "Joe Pera Speaks To You" but this show really starts in one direction, and then skirts you into a wild ride that talks about The Mandella Effect or meets an Avatar Fan Community that's probably the most wholesome thing I've seen in all of 2021. It's an appreciation of the absurd that we could all use.

8. Off The Air
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWiCVO3X_Ec
Off The Air is pretty much my favorite show on Adult Swim, ever. While Tim and Eric can go into comedy, and things like "Too Many Cooks" was a memorable gem of the decade. Off The Air was to me, exactly my years in college, and post-college put into a television show, Art Pieces are showcased, animation that wouldn't fit anywhere, somehow belong, bizarre things on video, it truly felt like a show where "anything could happen" and take you for a real emotional ride, without having any real characters or depth to speak of. Just a TV Carnage/Everything is Terrible but without that much found footage.

7. Hidden America with Jonah Ray
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BACR0bfAnlA
Remember SeeSo? It was that streaming service that was a punchline before "Quibi", and one of my favorite shows on SeeSo, which later went to VRV with that McElroy show was something called "Hidden America with Jonah Ray". If it's one genre of television that really makes me excited to watch your show, it's a TOP TIER SATIRE, if it pulls from shows I'm familiar with, such as "Anthony Bourdain : No Reservations" and "Diners Drive Ins and Dives", then it really is the kind of show for me. Lots of amazing comedians play fake characters who are experts in the city, and bizarre storylines happen to fall onto Jonah's lap. While it never really got that Season 3 order, the two seasons I got was definitely worth it, and for you if you can somehow find a way to watch it.

6. Saturday Morning All Star Hits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-PxUaLvLkc
2021 brought in a real sleeper hit for me and it's name was "Saturday Morning All Star Hits", it's one thing to do a satire, but to do satire among satire and create it's own universe is really impressive, and that was something Kyle Mooney did with S.M.A.S.H. featuring a laundry list of celebrity cameos, S.M.A.S.H. starts out as a comedy skit about Saturday Morning Cartoons, but near the end of the series, you find yourself feeling very zuzzy zazz about everything, and really have a hankering for subs.

5. The Great British Bake Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Iy5O82LnI
I know, we have to call it "Great British Baking Show" in the United States, but GBBO was *THE* culinary show of the decade. If not, it was THE reality series of the decade. Instead of contestants being negative and spiteful to each other in confessionals, and talking massive poo poo about each other, they were supporting each other in a somehow feel good, positive series that made everything feel really happy and joyful in what many people say "was a bad decade, actually". Lots of tasty bakes, a rotation of hosts and judges, and people want to avoid "soggy bottoms" and want to shake Paul Hollywood's hand. There really wasn't another show like it... well, until "Making It" came along.

4. Death Parade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjjTMNDZi-A
Its sacrilegious to probably put an anime on your list, as there is hundreds of anime out there, and eventually you'll get otakus upset you didn't put "Hunter x Hunter" or "Yuri On Ice" or "Free!", etc. But I put this anime on this list, because to me, this is an anime that isn't as "tropey" as others. Much like Odd Taxi for it's character format. Death Parade looks like a grimdark gothic fantasy, that you would love to buy shirts at Hot Topic, but when you deep dive it's one and only season. It's a wonderful series about an arbitor of who gets reincarnated, and who gets trapped in a void, and their method is parlor games (Air Hockey, Darts, Bowling, etc) to figure it out. Each episode is introduced to a new couple or new strangers and much like Twlight Zone or Black Mirror, twist reveals make for an amazing story where you have no idea who to root for. Each episode is my favorite for one reason or another from "Death Darts" about a couple who never listened, to "Death Arcade" about a gamer son and their workaholic adoptive mother, there were moments of legit heartbreak for some of the characters, in a way I never quite experienced in an animated series. It's a show that will probably stick with me longer than Attack on Titan or even Full Metal Alchemist.

3. @Midnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnmAx0-MkMc
I honestly did not think this show would make it, let alone be in my top 20. Panel Games are notoriously not something that works for American Audiences. Comedy Central, which at the time had Stewart and Colbert, and later lose Colbert and Stewart had a series that was simple - a game show about the internet. Chris Hardwick got the show at a perfect time when G4 was off the air, yet people still wanted to do a game show that was essentially "caption the funny viral video". It's claim to fame was "Hashtag Wars" that was just the closing round of "I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue", but its interactive because you can play along. It also showcased a who's who of modern comedians from Paul F Tomkins to Kumail Nanjiani to Ron Funches. It was a show that really could have worked even today, but I think people decided to move on, because the show ran out of ways to make Trump jokes.

2. Mystery Science Theater 3000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inOmUh1AebE
Something Awful really loves MST3K, and somehow MST3K returned this decade. Jonah Ray served as the host as Jonah Heston, and pretty much every nerdy comedian or writer or creative wanted an involvement in some regard. Some people saw it as a "too many cooks" approach, but personally, I saw it as a big thank you to all the fans of MST3K of the past, as it attempts to reboot for the future. The only issue is, that comedy central and scifi aren't doing it, it's Netflix, and somehow getting very cheap cheesy movies aren't a thing anymore. But, the highlight for me was they finally did the Paul Rudd classic, "Mac and Me" and for that, I'm entirely grateful.

1.Taskmaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4YhsooE5xY
Taskmaster is the ultimate game show. It's a mix of clever challenges, shenanigans, and all types of comedy, from creative sketch based contests, to practically borderline jackass-style stunts. Comedians are tested on their ability to think on their feet in the hopes of winning five items that fit a bizarre criteria like "best tasting liquid" to "best round shiny thing". Each season welcomes five contestants, and then like any good reality series, when it's over, a new batch arrives, until there are five champions to do that "All Stars" series. There is tons of two-man comedy with Alex and Greg, but there is also really cheap "gently caress you" challenges where if a comedian just looked under a table or see Alex's Clipboard they might get a big clue to how to make a really tough challenge so much more easier, and that is part of the fun, to me, this was the show I watched as soon as it came out every year, starting with Season 1, and I'm glad I stuck around, even if the US version was disappointing to watch, and CW pulled it after one episode, this is the game show for people who love to be surprised, and those that love to talk to friends about "what i would've done"

Levin
Jun 28, 2005


TelevisedInsanity posted:

17. Review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uloT8V6Skgk
Review is a justifiable classic series, it never outstayed it's welcome, and had a cohesive arc about Forrest McNeil, the lengths one person would go to be a "life reviewer" and the consequences of that actions. Just a really fantasic comedy series, where the "Eat 15 pancakes" "divorce" "Eat 30 pancakes" is a hall of fame episode.

Great list but with this you won my heart sir. This is one of those shows I desperately try to push on anyone who will listen and am genuinely upset when they "just don't get it".

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer
I've updated the submissions list. If you've made a submission in this thread and you don't appear in the list, please comment in the thread or shoot me a PM.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
So, preamble, I skipped all series that haven't finished (so no Better Call Saul) and miniseries (with one possible exception, see below), because otherwise this list would be too loving long.

It's already too long as it is -- which I apologise for; some of this is pretentiously overwritten, and I don't really have time to go over and edit down my thoughts. I just wrote and word vomit came out.

20. SouthLAnd



A cop show about the daily grind of being a police office, presented in a no-frills, quasi-realist style. While early seasons flirted with something a bit more commercial and restrained, the show’s cancellation, and subsequent move to TNT, led to a stripped down, more focused version of the same concept. The move away from free-to-air also had the side benefit of pushing up the darkness and the gore, as was the mood in the early 2010’s, but presented here often with a retrained matter-of-factness that allowed it to feel shocking without being cheap.

In its later seasons, SouthLAnd fell into a unique structural pattern that I’ve not seen repeated elsewhere on television. Each episode is almost entirely composed of incidents, sometimes with running plots but these were by far the minority of what each episode, or season, dealt with. The real meat of the show was the way these little interactions slowly accreted into character arcs, told slowly and naturalistically over years. Some of the characters slowly improved, most slowly devolved; a central part of the show’s thesis was the a slow mental and physical degradation was an inevitable part of being a police officer, and the show presented this with the same unvarnished attitude as is presented everything else. Regina King is awesome here, as are quite a few of the supporting actors, but Michael Cudlitz steals the show, anchoring what’s ultimately a very dark character arc. Apparently this wasn’t the intended arc for the character, but the final episode is such an effective series finale that I didn’t realise this wasn’t where the show was meant to end up.

19. Mr. Robot



Sam Esmail’s highly pretentious and deeply fun story thriller about mental illness, crypto currency and terrorism, Mr. Robot is an utterly audacious trip I read somewhere, can’t remember where unfortunately, that a primary interest of television during the 2010’s was playing with genre – shows that looked like they were one thing slowly morphed into something else. I don’t know if that’s generally true, but Mr. Robot’s certainly a classic case of that occurring, and it’s just such a headrush, man.

The show was utterly ambitious. Each season occupies a slightly different generic space – the second season plays with horror, the third season has more action thriller and sci-fi elements – though each season was really a blend of a bunch of different things. The show’s flexibility also allowed it to have some great concept episodes, hitting pretty much all of the greats (I think the only major gimmicks they skipped were the time loop episode and the musical episode, and even then they did a whole music video at one point).

I don’t think the show managed to thread the needle in the end, but it was consistently entertaining all the way through. Yes, even the second season. Especially the second season. It’s great.

18. Gotham


I do wonder what history will make of Gotham. When it came out, it was lambasted for being a nonsensical take on Batman canon, a distinct departure from the self-serious tone that had been cultivated by both DC marketing and Batman fans alike (thanks in no small part to the success of Christopher Nolan’s taken on the material with his recent films). And looking at the show through this rubric… well, that’s not wrong. Gotham was sloppy and strange, populated by a cast of scenery chewers, scored by some unholy medley of gothic xylophones and grunge music. It’s also an argument that completely misses the point.

Gotham was never a drama, it was high camp, an utterly delirious reinterpretation of the antecedents and folklore that inspired the city of Gotham and the stories told within its bounds. It was a blatant mishmash of a hundred different influences, featuring stories that parodied The Godfather, Cinderella, Hitchcock (particularly Vertigo), British comics, John Carpenter’s Halloween, The Island Of Doctor Moreau, exploitation films, toxic fandom, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang… and it was gay, gloriously loving gay, pushing up against the insane restrictions on permissible content, frustrated by behind the scenes franchising nonsense and all that red tape.

This resulted in a show that was often sloppy and strange, but at once liberating and thrilling to watch. Unless the stories focused on Batman, unfortunately. Played with a dour absence of charisma, Lil’ Wayne was often the worst part of “his” show – which fit, because at times it felt like the show absolutely hated Batman and everything he stood for. In some sense then, the show configures to be a tragedy, the assertion of the boring straight man over the exciting, gay, hilarious, queer, camp, GAY villains; one which sees the queer characters ultimately erased or subsumed into a heterosexual kyriarchy. But I love it all the same.


17. Continuum



In a lot of ways, Continuum isn’t a good show. There’s something very basic about the episodic genre plots, as is true of a lot of Canadian genre television, and its dialogue frequently just functional exposition, as is again typical of the subgenre. But there’s a restlessness to it, a need to constantly shift up what kind of a show it is, and an endearing earnestness to its politics. Because one of the ways in which Continuum distinguishes itself is a rare genre show that’s unashamedly political, with a keen and urgent need to comment on police corruption, corporate greed and environmental collapse – and, frankly, I’d rather watch something that’s absolutely fearless in its approach to narrative than something far more polished, but ultimately built on unimaginative stock scenarios.

Like many of the best television shows, Continuum lashes together several different unwieldy concepts. Essentially, it’s an ironic take on Terminator, retelling the story from the point of view from the time travelling killer from the future. It uses this framework to consider how organisations engineer compliance from their employees, slowly, painfully, charting the lead character’s emerging political consciousness. Apparently unsatisfied with this, early episodes complicate this narrative by adding in a spy-counter-spy element, and rather than resolve any of these elements, further seasons add more and more complications to the narrative. This results in a situation where there are, effectively, no minor characters – a late in the show episode delves into the psychology of a character who died two episodes into the show, after uttering maybe four lines. This is, obviously, ridiculous, but again speaks to the show’s idiosyncratic devotion to its central themes and messaging over how, you know, television is supposed to “work”.

It was also just wholly devoted to being a handsome looking show with killer fight scenes, fun schlocky performances from its heroes and villains, and an absolute killer ending. So, basically, genre trash, but made with a heart and brain that most of its peers lack.



16. Channel Zero



Look, the 2010’s were actually really good for the Syfy Channel – Defiance? Pretty good. Continuum? See above. Wynonna Earp? Laugh riot. The Expanse? Sure! The Magicians, Happy, I’ll even go to bat over Ghost Wars. But their best show, by far, was Channel Zero.

Kinda impressive, tbh, given that it was actually four shows. Each season adapted a different piece of spooky web fiction, (though some of these adaptations are so loose that it’s a wonder why the show even bothered). Still, it’s hard to argue with the power of the new material, which is frequently disturbing, thoughtful, and creative. Also it was pretentious as gently caress, and each season spent their (loving miniscule) budget on hiring performance artists, sculptors, uknown arts-y directors, to just put a bunch of cool poo poo on screen.

Of the four season, my favourite is the third, which uses combines Giallo with cosmic horror. Arkasha Stevenson’s direction is loving fantastic, the entire thing looks gorgeous, there are a bunch of inspired shots, she just directs the absolute gently caress out of it. There’s this one split dioptre shot where a character walks from one plane to another, and it’s just… chef’s kiss emoji, water droplets emoji, spooky ghost emoji.

But every season is loving cool, and has something to recommend. In some ways this presaged the tv-season-as-film model, which makes it important in and of itself, but Channel Zero distinguishes itself from, you know, Mickey Mouse poo poo by being good. Just watch it.


15. Heathers



Utterly loving brilliant satire, savaged by critics that – to be honest – just didn’t get it. I was lucky enough to live in a country that aired the uncut version of the show, so I’ve sadly never seen the American edit of the final two episodes, but I’ve got to feel that it probably defangs the show’s thesis.

It’s not perfect; there’s some slightly ropey acting from a few supporting cast members, and one or two early episodes seem to flail a little. However, for a first time attempt this thing is pretty drat good, and the entire thing ends with a very strong finale, one that left me in no doubt that the show had its head screwed on properly the entire time.


14. KIDDING



I dunno if this is universal, but you know when you're a kid and you're making soap bubbles, and you're trying to make this one really majestic soap bubble that can just float on and on forever, only for it to serenely wobble onto some grass and suddenly collapse? That's this show.

Jim Carrey stars as a Mister Rogers pastiche, someone who's essentially quite good and wholesome, while also quite bruised and hosed up thanks to his constant interactions with a bruised and hosed up world. I love the show's central ambivalence, caught between admiring the character's ethos while also seeing it as something that's far too naive to function in any real capacity, and the way it explores this through a creative, borderline stupid, sense of whimsy and fun.

Carrey, too, is excellent just excellent in this, and he's ably supported by Catherine Keener and Judy Greer, both operating in more of a realist mode. There's another show further down this list that I think captures a lot of what this show does better, but that's no sleight against Kidding. It's genuinely great that the 10's could produce two high calibre shows that work in such an incredibly specific niche.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Kidding is amazing and it was so underwatched aaaahhhhhhhhhhh

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
13. Nathan For You



I have a lot of difficulty pinning down what this show is – fundamentally, it’s a reality TV prank show, but also something closer to documentary than that title would imply. Nathan Fielder’s host personality has this really obsequious quality, one that’s easily capable of tricking his guests into revealing way too much about themselves or just intimidating the poo poo out of people by being quietly, passively weird.

I know someone who can’t watch this show because she finds him too scary, and yeah, he is kinda scary if you think about it. Still, a great, outlandish, uplifting show.


12. Tangle



No, not the Disney movie, or the show that inspired it – that one’s got a “d” on the end. No, Tangle was an Australian family drama that aired during the early 2010’s. And that’s basically all that it is, “just” a family drama, but one with incredibly strong character writing. The cast arrives fully formed, they’re funny and horrible and bad things happen to them, they develop over three short seasons, some get better, some get worse, some die, and then the show ends. In and of itself, that might not sound like an astonishing achievement, but as television moves increasingly further and further away from drama and towards pulp, it’s important to recognise a show that could do the basics so loving well that it didn’t need explosions, time travel, parallel universes, coups, aliens, mass hysteria, robots, gore, guns, erotica, etc. to distract audiences from creaky scripts.

What the show had instead was a number of very strong insights into grief, sexuality, parenting and work, coupled to strong acting and nuanced characterisation provided by Australian talent including Justine Clarke, Kat Stewart, Dan Wylie and (a pre-breakout) Ben Mendelsohn. And, yes, it's "just" white middle class people in crisis, but it's remarkably well done all the same.

For those of you interested in checking it out, please not that the show’s also a spiritual successor to Love My Way, with which it shares a lot of behind and before the camera talent, and though they share no narrative overlap, they benefit from being watched in order.


11. Twin Peaks



The first season is okay, though much of it is dealing with soap opera cliches that I’m largely not familiar with. The second season is better, except for the parts where it actually becomes that kind of cliched soap opera – the show’s famously dull middle act, that drove audiences away and ultimately cancelled the show. The film, Fire Walk With Me, is excellent, trucking primarily in the kind of provocative weirdness that was only present occasionally in the original show (or so this was apparent to me anyway, like I said, I’m not familiar with how Twin Peaks Season 1 is playing with genre even though I can recognise that it’s doing so). I do struggle with the vaguely Reaganite image of historical normalcy that the show treats as, if not axiomatic then fundamentally desirable, and there are the aforementioned patches where the show doesn’t work for me, which is why this is fairly far down on the list.

However, The Return is a loving marvel. I ate every single episode up and thought about it a whole lot while it was airing, and the community the show generated was an insanely wonderful experience too. I even like the sweeping episode.


10. Mozart In The Jungle




One of Amazon’s first shows, from back when it was trying to deliver HBO style content instead of chasing the next big blockbuster, Mozart In The Jungle is a smart, cute show about eccentric artists and the people who try to keep them performing. Yes, no one can mime playing an instrument for poo poo, but I don’t think that actually matters. There’s a wonderful, chaotic sensibility to the show, delivered with a lightness of touch – particularly once it moves past its first season.

The central romance between the callow Hailey (Lola Kirke) and the symphony’s wilful conductor Rodrigo (Gael Garcia Bernal) is lovely and convincing. Speaking personally, I feel like television doesn’t really do romance much anymore, and it’s nice to see one done well. Bernadette Peters(***) does some amazing work too, her character going from some sort of uptight 80’s villain to something utterly loopy and loose. The show’s also lush looking and makes the most of its Amazon money to secure overseas filming every season, climaxing in a ridiculous trip to Japan involving a slap fight with a robot. I love it.

Also the Roman Coppola episodes are so loving good.

(***) Fun fact: Bernadette Peters is not meant to be singing in the above shot, she's meant to be Really Angry About Her Job. It's great.

9. The OA



I feel like every so often television fucks up and pours a whole bunch of money into something that’s never going to make much money. The OA, Brit Marling and Zal Batmanglij’s weirdo artsy show about Gaia theory, story telling and intense compassion was absolutely never going to make that channel any money – I suspect the only reason it was ever renewed is because that’s just what Netflix used to do with shows, way back when. Utterly and deliberately preposterous, the show actively challenged you to call bullshit on its earnestly delivered, deeply heartfelt fantasy narrative, one that drew an incredibly long bow in an attempt to connect the quiet death of suburban life with existential mysticism, survivor stories and trauma, and about fifty other utterly insane things. I loving loved it.
It helps that The OA is a beautifully and deliberately structured story, one that’s actively playing with what streaming television is capable of in a way that loving previous few shows have tried before or since. It also has one of the most memorable scene transitions out of everything I’ve ever seen. It’s just an astonishingly constructed, absolutely total vision in TV form – like The Underground Railroad, or Too Old To Die Young, and maybe a very few other shows, it honestly feels more like film in the way that it’s shot, while still being a distinct televisual object.
The second season pushed the narrative to stranger places, deepening the show’s conflict between storytelling and the people who’d seek to corrupt and commercialise our collective imagination. In some ways it’s fitting that the show ended where it did, given how television has progressed into TV’s Blockbuster Age. It’s also incredibly sad, and a show I really wish hadn’t been ripped from us so soon. Deeply missed.

8. Being Human -- UK VERSION BEST UK VERSION STRONG



Famously a script about three “normal” housemates with everyday problems, before being redrafted into the story of a vampire, werewolf and ghost sharing a flat, what I find appealing about Being Human is that it’s ultimately more of the former than the latter. That’s not to discount the show’s fantasy credentials; it’s still very much a goth, young-adult, angst-driven show that’s somehow found itself displaced from the late 90’s, but it’s also one with a surprisingly high standard for both writing and acting. The show’s dialogue is snappy, its characters three-dimensional and contradictory, and -- unlike a lot of Buffy(*) derivatives – largely uninterested in its lore.

In a time when most genre television seems all too eager to crawl up its own arse in pursuit of more ~*lore, Being Human can read as, perhaps, a bit basic, but like all television its strength comes via the accumulation of its arcs and episodes rather than on the back of individual outings. Despite earlier feints towards amoral indifference, Being Human ultimately reveals itself to be a show with an aggressively moral core, a positive and life affirming narrative about utterly doomed characters living fairly miserable lives. It’s my favourite soppy show, one with an awful lot of heart.

(*) and, amusingly, the one time Being Human attempts to reference Buffy it gets the reference completely wrong.


7. Adventure Time



Adventure Time is the ultimate hangout show. I remember that a lot of people watched it for the plot, and that’s cool, but for me it was just a dumb show about dumb things happening and occasionally someone would say KABAM! or “You forgot your floaties” and it was just the coolest poo poo ever, man.

Adventure Time’s secret sauce is that it’s about 50% stoner logic, 30% irreverent dislike of kids show moralising, and 100% sincere, and just motivated by a liberated sense of… eh, whatever, it’s hot, I’m going to eat some ice cream. Show good.



6. Girls



I love this show. I think Hannah is a great character, and that Lena Dunham is really good at capturing her character's essence, both as a writer and actor. I think telling a story about how four toxic women are actually (mostly) super poo poo for each other and ultimately can't -- or won't -- support each other is a really clever way of rejecting all the weird, shallow, Sex In The City bullshit that Just. Won't. Die.

I love that the show's most "likable" of the four girls ends up as probably the worst human being, while still being the most entertaining. I think all the character arcs were well constructed, and that the show was interesting and consistently thoughtful. I love that show dipped into experiemental storytelling, particularly the odd little horror arc in the show's second season.

It's just good.

5. Community



loving hilarious comedy that’s basically The Breakfast Club for adults, except every third week or so everyone disappears off into some insane imagination land and the entire show briefly becomes an extended homage to another, completely unrelated, movie. The homages are really good, the show is colourful, the jokes all hit and I have a good time watching it.

I even really like the last two seasons, though season four is mostly unenjoyable crud.

4. Breaking Bad



The great two hundred pound gorillas of television, and deservedly so, though I think it’s fascinating that it’s actually a very small show, being primarily a character drama about a relatively small cast of characters. The show really made its meat and potatoes out of digging into the mechanics of the thriller situations it presented to its audience – both in the sense of the plot mechanics, but also in terms of the characterisation that drove the plot.

As much as the show always placed characters first, it was a tightly structured show, built around an excellent understanding of how to lay out information and develop character and theme. This was something the shows frequently leveraged into some very strong episodic thrillers episodes, episodes like 'Fly' and 'Peakaboo', and they’re probably my favourite part of the show. Its overall plotting could occasionally lead to weak stretches, I'm mostly thinking of the middle of season three, and I don't think the ending fully works; I find it a bit small and prosaic. But when it was on, the show was loving on.

Better Call Saul seems, in some sense, to be a second go around and a companion piece to this show, and I wonder if Breaking Bad can only truly be finished when Saul is completely over. Regardless, it feels weird not to include it in any list of the best shows of the 10's, so here it is.


3. Hannibal



Of course this would be the Bryan Fuller show that everyone remembers, as it’s his most macho and serious – television criticism has always tended this way, I think. Though I also enjoy that this show is not actually all that macho, and probably not all that serious either. Hannibal is a gothic camp nightmare, a deeply silly cat-and-mouse thriller loosely adapting the Thomas Harris novels into queer fanfic.

Something that stands out to me is Hannibal’s influence on the horror landscape. Pretty much every good horror show of the last five years owes something to this show, whether because Hannibal kickstarted someone’s career, or because it helped define how to plot and structure horror for television. (The only real exception, IMO, might be Castle Rock) I love the way episodes tend to end without much resolution, using during a moment of uncertainty or existential horror, and it strikes me as being a clever way to sustain audience anxiety across episodes and even multiple seasons. Even so, individual episodes still maintained an episodic, self-contained quality, offering some minor sense of catharsis while building an ongoing narrative. The structure of this impressed me.

There’s also strong dialogue and excellent performances. Everyone likes this show, I don’t need to tell people this stuff. It’s good. You’ll like it.


2. Flowers



I don't know what show acts as the best focal point of Channel 4's contributions to television in the 2010's: Flowers or Love Island. Of the two, I prefer Will Sharpe's gentle, manic-depressive comedy concerning the Flowers family, though frankly I think you could make a case for either. The Flowers family, headed up by Olivia Colman and a very melancholic Julian Barrat, are a study in British repression, tragically incapable of processing their feelings despite their clear artistic temperaments.

I love how Sharpe shoots each season differently. I mean, both seasons have some loving gorgeous visuals (Utopia what now?), but where the first season has a gauzy, photographic appeal, the second is more lurid and hot looking -- I like that the show was brave enough to change its visual palette as the show's characters evolved.

Just as a heads up, the show ends on a very loving miserable note, made all the worse for being both entirely implied and largely unreferenced by the narrative. It's a very brave ending, and I think it's a great choice for the show, but I feel that it'd be wrong of me to recommend the show without flagging this in some way.

1. Mad Men



I’ve got to say, I don’t think the early seasons are as strong as what the show eventually morphed into, but that show – which was just one form of mental disintegration after another, really – was loving grand. Absolutely the funniest show on television, unexpectedly delightful or violent, constantly throwing curveballs at you.

I really don’t have the skill to do this show justice, IMO, but I will say this: the show’s control over its tone was second to none, and the cast was loving fire. Oh, and Bob and Ginsberg should have made out.

Open Source Idiom fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Jan 8, 2022

Meatgrinder
Jul 11, 2003

Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est
Alright Looten threatened me with bodily harm in a PM if I don't submit a list even though my opinion on anything TV is questionable at best, I do enjoy having limbs so

Cramming a decade of TV into a list of 20 is undoable. The top 10 are all so, so close they might as well all be "the single best show up until I watched the other shows". Likewise, there's a bunch of stuff I've watched that I don't even recall, but I'll throw them in here anyway, since I went through the trouble of looking up the data.

There's also of course a bunch of stuff I've watched which is not listed here, because it shat the bed in the last season / episode or just because I forgot about it.

Stuff I watched which did not make it to the top 20, alphabetically:

A touch of cloth - a British parody of British detective show.
Alias Grace - I don't remember what this one was about, but I think I enjoyed watching it.
Ash vs Evil Dead - Shamefully cancelled, a very entertaining extention of the films.
Banshee - Good guy who isn't actually a good guy punches and kicks bad guys! Also lots of tits!
Big Little Lies - Loved both seasons. Would have been a contender for the top 20 if there wasn't already so much in to put in there.
Black Mirror - I love everything Charlie Brooker does.
Bojack Horseman - started strong, tapered off a bit, but with genuine moments of genius throughout. Superb animation and storytelling, just prone to boring storylines to keep unnecessary sidekicks in the show.
Brockmire - Want to hear Hank Azaria talk for hours on end? This is the show for you. Based on a character created for a YouTube sketch or something or other, there is very little in the way of plotline or character development. It's just Hank talking. And that is a good thing.
Carnival Row - I'll admit I watched this because I like both Orlando Bloom and Cla... Cara Deve... Cara Delevinn... That hot chick with the surly look.
Cobra Kai - I'll repeat ad verbatim what another poster said about this in one of these threads: "Has no right to be as good as it is." Very strong start but they keep putting out seasons and it's wearing thing for my part.
Community - Had its ups and downs, but started strong and ended strong, I feel. My first exposure to the wonder that is Donald Glover, and of course, Danny Pudi. I love Danny.
Electric Dreams - Philip K Dick is a writer I'm obsessed with, and this miniseries is a beautifully produced adaptation of some of his most iconic work.
For all Mankind - Should have been in the top 20. Hi, Bob!
Foundation - Pretty boring and confusing. Or: Pretty, boring and confusing.
Get Shorty - I love watching Chris O'dowd but there is just a tad too much cringe in this to make it really click for me. Loved it, though.
Glow - The Glorious Ladies of Wrestling lost a bit of magic to me when I found out it was sort of biographical. Shame it got cancelled, though.
Godless - Quintessential Western for me. Easy contender for the top 20.
Happy! - This made me laugh. Patton Oswald voicing a cartoon miniature unicorn in a gritty ultraviolent detective show. Sad it got cancelled before they could cover all the major holidays.
Hawkeye - Marvel is churning out miniseries that are basically "we are at point A, we need to get to point B" to shore up storylines in their MCU films. Entertaining to watch, but not really interesting. I always feel they could have done a lot more with the main character.
He Man Revelation
I am not okay with this - A brilliant start to a show that got cancelled before it could come into its own. Was going to share a universe with the equally great The End of the loving World.
Impulse - I think this got cancelled after about 2 seasons. Like most shows balancing superhero vs dramatic storylines it wasn't all that great narratively, but the main character and her trauma were incredibly well portrayed.
Invincible - Not your average superhero cartoon.
Kimetsu No Yaiba - Some kind of zombie manga. Fun to watch.
Kingdom - This is the South Korean zombie drama. It's great if you want to see some ancient Korean hats and costumes!
Legion - Not your average superhero series. Its visual style corresponded with the madness of its main character. Gets quite a bit weaker narratively towards the end.
Letterkenny - It's only a YouTube sketch show that got hosted on some streaming service somewhere which will run the same jokes into the ground endlessly, but I will always love Letterkenny, especially for its strong first few seasons.
Loki - Marvel is churning out miniseries that are basically "we are at point A, we need to get to point B" to shore up storylines in their MCU films. Entertaining to watch, but not really interesting. I always feel they could have done a lot more with the main character.
Lovecraft Country - Absolutely loved this, it was hard to choose which was the real nightmare: the horrible creatures, or the abhorrent racism.
Made for Love - A little forgettable but entertaining, watched it mainly for Cristin Milloti.
Maniac - A very powerful performance by a skinny, subdued Jonah Hill. Don't recall much storywise.
Monkey King - Some kind of Australian or NZ take on the Chinese Journey To The West legend. One of the shows that helped me through lockdown(s).
Never Have I Ever - Very nice teenage drama that beats its competition for the upbeat main character and never descending into cringe. A fresh perspective also from Indian culture in the States.
Olive Kitteridge - Very strong drama with Frances McDormand. Should have been in the top 20.
One Punch Man - an anime that exposes what makes anime so unwatchable.
P-Valley - An underdog story about people trying to survive in poverty. Has great drag acts.
Raised By Wolves - Weird and wonderful. Hope this picks up in the next seasons.
Resident Alien - Run of the mill Odd Couple comedy. Nice if you like watching Alan Tudyk work.
Rick and Morty - Started out fresh and original, turned out to be More Of The Same.
Russian Doll - Initially I found this hard to watch but the main character grew on me. One of the first miniseries I've ever seen.
Solar Opposites - A kinder, softer Rick and Morty.
Stargirl - Should not work. Works like a charm. One of the few DC superhero shows that are actually watchable.
Stranger Things - Hope this returns with a new cast or new ideas or something. First series was such a great timepiece.
The End of the loving World - Would have gone on to share a universe with I Am Not Ok WIth This. Had a first series that I thought could not be improved upon, then had a second series which improved upon it. Should have been in the top 20.
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier - Marvel is churning out miniseries that are basically "we are at point A, we need to get to point B" to shore up storylines in their MCU films. Entertaining to watch, but not really interesting. I always feel they could have done a lot more with the main character.
The Leftovers - Don't remember much about this, except that it was a great concept that was brilliantly executed. Should have been in the top 20.
The Outlaws - A BBC comedy drama by and with Stephen Merchant which has Christopher Walken in it. Very enjoyable, only they dropped ALL other storylines at the end other than the main one. Not sure if it even belongs here; it should have come out in 2020 but ended up being released in 2021 because of you know what.
The Queen's Gambit - This was an ok series. Found it a bit puzzling that people with severe alcohol and drugs problems were portrayed as attractive and competent.
The Wheel of Time - For a streaming fantasy series, this is ok. For an adaptation of the books, it's a bit poo poo. Hopnig it will pick up in the second series.
The Witcher - It's a great adaptation of the fantasy books and it's fun to see Henry Cavill enjoying himself so much.
The Young Pope - A miniseries (though I think it's getting some kind of second part) about a pope who can actually commune with the Almighty. Great performances and costumes/sets.
True Detective - That first season was so great. There's a bunch of shows where I feel like the creators don't actually know why their work is being received so well, pick some element or other that had nothing to do with its initial success and go ham on that, ruining the show in subsequent seasons. You know which shows I'm talking about.
Tuca and Bertie - What the Sad Horse Show could have been. Baffling to me that it got cancelled. Should have made my top 20.
Undone - Visually arresting and a great perfomance by Salazar, but narratively not that interesting.
Upload - A fun show that helped me through lockdown. Something about the dangers of privacy and privilege.
WandaVision - Marvel is churning out miniseries that are basically "we are at point A, we need to get to point B" to shore up storylines in their MCU films. Entertaining to watch, but not really interesting. I always feel they could have done a lot more with the main character.
Warrior - From the people who brought you Banshee: MORE BANSHEE. This show tries to juggle a few too many characters to my liking, but fun to watch.
Warrior Nun - A fun show that helped me through lockdown. Some hot young chick has to fight demons. Yeah.

20 Catch 22 - A great adaptation of the source material. Very visceral.
19 Britannia - A weird show that just keeps getting better and better with some really great perfomances all round and, frankly, the best evocation of Romans on the warpath that I've ever seen.
18 What we do in shadows - a very funny, very witty adaptation of the NZ film, which already was really good.
17 Wellington Paranormal - a spinoff of What we do in shadows. Another great example of playing humour straight.
16 Derry Girls - This one is getting another season before ending it and I'm looking forward to it. Great performances and evocation of the 90s. Funny, but does also not pull punches.
15 Godfather of Harlem - badass people being badass. Teaching me a side to the Nation of Islam that I was uneducated about.
14 Snowpiercer - Another great adaptation of a film, focusing on class warfare on an eternally moving train.
13 The Boys - One of the very best superhero series currently available, focusing on the collatoral damage among humans in a world that has plenty of superheroes. Minor gripes with the accents of supposedly British characters.
12 Inside No 9 - a very enjoyable anthology mystery series that started out as a spinoff of a single episode of Psychoville, both by the incredibly talented creators of The League Of Gentlemen, all of which are worth watching and rewatching.
11 The Marvelous Mrs Maisel - Love this show. The dialogue, the humour, the sitcom and drama. Very enjoyable.

10 Watchmen - Was hoping this wouldn't be a miniseries, it feels like it's exploring a world where, at the end of the series, new storylines can start to develop.

9 The Dark Crystal - a kick in the nostalgia. Intricately produced puppet show that serves as a prequel to the movie.

8 The Mandalorian - The only thing worth watching that's come out of the Star Wars franchise since the 80s.

7 We are Lady Parts - very powerful miniseries about 4 young muslim women involved in a punk band. Catchy tunes, too.

6 Wayne - gently caress you YouTube for cancelling Wayne. This thing was going places. And punching the people in those places.

5 Atlanta - Hello Donald. You are a mad god of making great stuff. Thank you for this.

4 Fargo - I put off watching this for the longest time because an acquintance had insisted I watch this "because it's Fargo with flying saucers, and they pull it off!" and that did not come off as the ringing endorsement they thought it would be. Caught up with it when the 4th season was airing and, as is the common consensus I believe, found the first 2 series to be picture perfect, with the others just 'merely' very good.

3 Doom Patrol - Amazing. How do they keep churning out these series? A superhero collective whose main storyline is, well, group therapy. Just beautiful to watch. Incredible performances from April Bowlby and Brendan Fraser.

2 Barry - This show has the incredible knack of hitting the right note at the right time, every time. Speeding up, slowing down, jumping off a narrative cliff and casually jogging back into the main storyline, it does it all with an astounding ease. I knew Root and Winkler would put on great performances, but I was pleasantly surprised at Bill Hader pulling off his character. Can't wait for more.

1 Fleabag - The best thing I've seen on TV bar none. Clever, brief, engaging, playful and moving, this show requires your full attention and is very rewarding. Didn't think they could improve on the first season and yet, they did. Powerful stuff.

Meatgrinder fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jan 8, 2022

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Open Source, you should probably specify which version of Being Human you’re referring to.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Open Source Idiom posted:

I don't know what show acts as the best focal point of Channel 4's contributions to television in the 2010's: Flowers or Love Island

I'd guess Flowers cause Love Island was ITV :v:

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Escobarbarian posted:

Open Source, you should probably specify which version of Being Human you’re referring to.

Fixed!

Rarity posted:

I'd guess Flowers cause Love Island was ITV :v:

lol, my brain. I thought I'd checked and changed that, my bad. Not editing it tho, my shame shall last for eternity.

I can't believe either of you read all that btw. Thanks.

(Also looking forward to reading your list Esco)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I read all of both the lists just posted! They were great! I’ve had Flowers on my list for ages, and I really liked Landscapers, so I’ll probably start it soon.

Rob Filter
Jan 19, 2009
20. Heathers
A dark comedy / satire that made me laugh alot. This is the show that easily pushed game of thrones off my top 20 list.
19. Witcher.
Well made low fantasy genre trash. I love genre trash, and I love well crafted shows, and the Witcher is well crafted genre trash.
18. Mr Robot.
The direction in this show owns, the menace of the flickering lights in season 2 as blackouts roll across towns. Amazing. It Borders on copaganda occasionally though.
17. Spartacus.
Well made action genre trash. The wierd half literary half sweary way all the characters talk is really really really fun.
16. Blood Drive
Sitting right next to Spartacus, this absolutely loving wild grindhouse TV show has every episode explore a new grindhouse plotline or aesthetic. It's low, low art, but its made with a clear love of the genre, and its creative, and funny. gently caress IN CAR. gently caress IN CAR. gently caress IN CAR.
15. The Magicians.
It was consistently fun fantasy, and on top of that had some genuinely moving stuff.
14. Dispatches from elsewhere.
Arthouse TV. I had a good time. Kinda don't want to spoil the magic by talking too much about it. The show is mentally slotted into a corner with Mr. Robot and Twin peaks.
13. Patriot
I like extremely funny satire. Patriot sinks its sharpened teeth into US espionage. It's great.
12. Russian Doll
It's well made genre trash. The characters are excellent. The plotting is gripping. I won't spoil it, but their is cool poo poo that I don't want to spoil.
11. Sex House
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYO1hZKzisLbJGPX8gXmtGrygKE6WRw95
A scathing satire of reality tv that descends into a hilarious horror story? Yes. Yes. Yes.
10. Succession
It's a very funny drama comedy. People talk about the writing or the acting, but shoutout to the banger direction. Their are some really good shots in this.
9. Adventure Time
This show makes it onto the list for two reason: the highly episodic weird arthouse episodes it put out in its middle seasons, and how easy it is to put this show on for rewatch with groups.
8. Sense8
A modern day soft sci-fi thriller. Netflix threw money at a wachowski sister and a great show came out.
7. Avenue 5.
Masqurading as a goofy comedy, this understated hard sci-fi satire horror is GRIPPING.
6. It's always sunny in philedelphia
Consistently funny comedy. What really elevates the show is the slow inexorable descent of the cast as they wallow in self-inflicted misery.
5. Nathan For You
Takes the format of Borat and just hits the ground running with episodes that are completely hilarious and genuinely interesting and provocative.
4. Twin Peaks S3
The direction in this show owns bones. It's funny and dramatic and scary and wierd. as. gently caress. S1 and 2 were good watches, but S3 is a masterpiece.
3. Venture bros
Venture bros starts as extremely watchable slurried pastiche of a bunch of different comic books, and then goes off and becomes one of my favorite shows. What sets it so high up on the list is how many times I've rewatched this show and thoroughly enjoyed it.
2. American Vandal
An interesting satire of true crime journalism. Essential TV.
1. The Eric Andre Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G6RF5ChKYQ
I have intensely mixed feelings about this show. The production seems unethical, with how they violate the boundaries of the guests / people they prank (complicated by the show deliberately obscuring what parts are "real" and what parts are staged). That said, the finished show is vitally important surrealist tv. It captures the experience of been in public and having wild poo poo go down around you. It has an episode more ambitious than david lynch spending 20 minutes zooming into a nuclear explosion. It has some banger jokes.

Honorable mention: Sonny Boy
This anime comes from that wave of animated media produced by people who liked the direction in twin peaks, which heavily influenced wierd as gently caress shows like revolutionary girl utena. Sonny boy is AMAZING. I prefer the direction in this to twin peaks. This is better than twin peaks S3. Hands down, fantastic. It would be easily be my number 1 show on this list if it wasn't released in 2021.

Rob Filter fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Jan 8, 2022

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
I'm so glad it's not just me voting for Sex House

Rob Filter
Jan 19, 2009

Rarity posted:

I'm so glad it's not just me voting for Sex House

Sex house is so good.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Almost a decade later and I’m still a Sex House denier, sorry guys but y’all were crazy for that 1

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Escobarbarian posted:

Almost a decade later and I’m still a Sex House denier, sorry guys but y’all were crazy for that 1

:wrong:

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
"Okay Jeremy, eat the frog. It's the sexy thing to do."

Vitruvian Manic
Dec 5, 2021

by Fluffdaddy
Welcome to sex house!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3788493

Raspberry Bang
Feb 14, 2007


Raspberry Bang’s top 20 shows of the last Ten years


Here it is coming down to the wire. I just want to say that there has been A LOT of good tv this past decade. I've seen a lot of stuff but I've also have missed a lot too. If you gave me a couple more years to compile this list with the exact same criteria it might look at lot different. First things first...

Honorable Mentions

A small selections of fine shows that didn't make the cut but are still worth your time.

F1: Drive to Survive
Over the Garden Wall
Broad City
Halt and Catch Fire
Ozarks

Now the for the good stuff.


20. The Expanse



This is probably the best Sci-fi show currently being made right now. I like how it takes it's science serious and that 95% of what is depicted in this show is totally plausible. The Political aspect of this show is another element I really enjoy.

19. Hannibal



Normally I'm not a fan of procedurals but this one grabbed me with its style and characters. Mads Mikkelsen is a wonderful Hannibal Lecter and the rest of the cast are just as great. Everything in this show is so pretty from the food to the beautifully macabre corpses.

18. The Eric Andre Show



I love the absurdity of this show. Eric Andre has to be really smart to be this dumb. It's the perfect midnight show.

17. Dark



“Der anfang ist die ende und der ende ist der anfang”

Talk about a dysfunctional family, yikes! This is another beautifully shot show with a lot of fun elements. Time travel is a hard thing to pull off narratively without having to ask the audience to suspend too much disbelief but this show manages to pull off Primer levels of time travel conciseness into a three season show. At times the plot can get convoluted but not too much that's its overwhelming. It's a nice little three season package.

16. Everything's Gonna Be Okay



This is a show I wish more people have seen. It's lighthearted and funny. It's biggest strength is it's tenderness toward the feelings of it main characters and the respect given to each characters sexuality whether they be gay, straight, neurotypical, or neurodivergent. Nothing comes across as heavy-handed. There is no “very special episode” feeling, just a general sense that everything's gonna be okay.

15. Steven Universe



Once this show found it's footing it became a nonstop delight. Just a wonderful cartoon about enjoying the difference in others while fighting alien threats in fun ways!

14. Hater's Back Off



This is another show I wish more people would have seen. Haters Back Off has a Napoleon Dynamite kinda charm to it. It's quirky and funny without being disgustingly indie. It does a great job about making you feel for this egotistical loser. Miranda is definitely a character to be laughed at and while her obliviousness to this fact is the where the humor of the show is derived, she's still human. So at the end of season 1 where she realizes that she's the joke and asks a crowd of people “Why is it funny that someone would love me?” you feel it. But at the same time it's not so black and white. There is a second season to Haters Back Off that I appreciate but you could be totally satisfied with only watching the first.

13. The OA



Kudos to Netflix for giving this weird show money for two seasons. The OA is a good kind of bizarre that I'm glad exists. I enjoyed the journey this show took me on and am sad I wont get to see whatever meta narrative they had planed for the third.

12. Rick and Morty



I get the love/hate relationship some of y'all have with this show. The loud & proud fanbase to this show annoying and toxic but I'd be lying if told you I hadn't gotten some of the biggest laughs, out of my entire tv watchin' career, from this show. This last season has been hit or miss but when it's good, it's really good. I love a well executed clever sci-fi concept and this show has a lot of them.

11. Game of Thrones



This is a tough one to place. I didn't read the books before I watched the show so all the twists and turns the plot provided were so much fun to experience each week. I'll never forget watching the red wedding unfold. But man, did they poo poo the bed at the end. All that build up for a wet fart.

10. Fleabag



This show hits a lot of the right buttons for me. It's funny. It's sad. It's beautiful. I like how it flirts with raunchiness while maintaining some shreds of dignity. It's tough to pick a favorite season of the two because each are both so good. But if you were to put a gun to my head I would pick season two because I really enjoy a bittersweet ending. Those are hard to pull off.

9. Twin Peaks (Season 3)



There is nothing like this show nor will there every be. Sometimes I feel like we only got this season as a result of some monkey paw wish. More Twin Peaks in exchange for some horrible curse places upon mankind. Could it have been the Trump presidency? Maybe Covid? Who knows. What matters is something that should not exists does and it's wonderful. While it doesn't quite reach the highs of the original run for me, season 3 has some amazing imagery (episode 8).

8. Atlanta



FX Knocked it out of the park with this one. This show is just more proof that Donald Glover is really talented human being. At least leave some talent for the rest of us! Atlanta is funny a lot of the times but it isn't afraid to smack you in the face with reality. Sometimes without a moment's notice. I'll admit that I've only seen season one but I'm sure season two is just as good.

7. Louie



Surprise!

Is Louis CK a huge piece of poo poo? Absolutely. Did he make a good show and I feel bad for liking it? Yes. As much as I hate to say it there's an emotional depth to this show that really resonated with me when I first started watching it back in 2010. It's tough for a storyteller to really connect with people narratively. Few do it good. Louie did it well. A good example of this is from season three. It's a two parter with Parker Posey called “Daddy's Girlfriend”.


6. Lodge 49



At it's core Lodge 49 is about a group of unsatisfied people finding joy in something they may never understand. The journey they take together to find the “true lodge” is a hopeful one. Each character is miserable in there own way but yet they still are able to find joy by the end of the show that is genuine and sincere. I wish there was more of this show. Two seasons is not enough! I love the mysticism around the lodge elements to this show. Big shout out to all the goons who suggested this show.


5. Corporate



This show should be on everyone's list. It's well shot, intelligent, funny, relatable, and has this whimsical charm to it that's just wonderful. The cast is perfect. Lance Riddick should be in more comedic roles. Like if they ever reboot The Naked Gun series he should be the lead. There are so many gems throughout this series but my favorite will always be S2E02 The Concert. It's the perfect encapsulation of being in your early 30's.

4. Adventure Time



This a show that will be remembered for a very long time. The people who watched this as children will grow up, revisit this show, and enjoy it more as an adult because it's just that high of quality of a show. Adventure Time is a show with a lot of heart and emotional depth that most cartoons just lack. It's silly but never feels like it's talking down to its audience, whether they're children or adults. Just a great show all around.

3. Breaking Bad



While most shows on got a spot on my list because they affected me on a personal level, Breaking Bad made it on here because of how entertaining and well written it was. I watched this weekly and if AMC asked me or a large sum of money to see the next episode, I would be deeply in debt. I can't think of any other narrative that made me want to see what happens next like Breaking Bad. The twists and turns and all the characters just hooked me. Everything about this show is great.

2. Better Call Saul



While not as narratively addictive as Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul's strengths lie within it's characters. Let me tell you, these are some well fleshed out characters. The situations that lead to each character's growth is expertly crafted and are a main part of the reason I believe this to be the best show that is currently airing on TV. Like Mike talking about his son in the first season or Jimmy's interrogation of Chuck in the third. From the writing, to the acting, to the direction, everything about this show is just so well done.

1. Baskets



A lot of these shows made my list because of how well they resonated with who I am. It's hard for any sort of medium to successfully connect with people. So when one does connect it should be praised. For me Baskets did that better than any other show in the past ten years. I read and watch a lot of things and have kinda narrowed down what makes a favorite a favorite for me. Is it funny, sad, strange, beautiful, or clever. This show does a very good job of hitting a lot of those buttons for me.

This show is about Chip who goes to France to learn to be a professional clown. He fails out of clown college and can only get a job as a rodeo clown back home in California. It's a little strange on the surface but at it's core Baskets is about a man who's passions failed to bring him happiness and the slow realization that sometimes happiness can only be achieved through compromise. Baskets does a great job of depicting Chip's directionless life as well as creating some really beautiful moments. It's also humorous and a little sad at times, but all around a great show and definitely my favorite in the last ten years.

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer
It consistently blows me away seeing all of these shows mentioned here that I've never even heard of. What an interesting time for the medium of television.

BSam
Nov 24, 2012

20 taskmaster nz

The original version of this show is brilliant, but with only two seasons the new zealand variant has been amazing so far. i've fallen in love with at least 3 contestants each season

19 doctor who

flux was decent, it was fun. one or two episodes of it were amazing. new years eve was a lot of fun

18 Wandavision

great show, .some super heros got stuck in a tv show.

17 Agents of Shield

the classic comic book show. showing everyone just how to tie into a movie franchise properly

16 Agent Carter

like the above but in the past and with a woman. brilliant stuff

15 The Punisher

lots of shooting going on in this one, compelling

14 Daredevil

netflix showing they can do canonical super hero shows too

13 Jessica Jones

great first season with mr purple man, and the rest of the show was good too

12 Luke Cage

another marvel netflix success, it's like they can never put a foot wrong

11 Iron Fist

yet another great netflix superhero punchy show

10 The Defenders

and then they all meet up! brilliant!

9 Loki

some episodes of this reminded me of some good old doctor who fun. timey wimey

8 The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

i just need to picture baron zemo dancing to remind me how fun this show was

7 What If?

great concept, showing us how the great superhero stories would have gone if someone wore a different hat or something

6 Hawkeye

i actually love a christmas story, he just wants to get home to his kids!

5 Runaways

great show featuring a bunch of youths who find out they have powers and that their parents are evil

4 Cloak & Dagger

great show featuring a couple of youths who find out they have powers and that their parents are useless

3 Helstrom

Only caught up with this one recently, but it was eye opening to realise that demons and half demons and all that are canonical in the mcu

2 Inhumans

blackagar boltagon is the perfect hero, and the rest of his crew are great too, especially the massive dog

1 POWERS

probably the best superhero show of all time. i wish it was part of the mcu

BSam fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jan 12, 2022

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

BSam posted:

*list*

Why are you like this?

King Burgundy
Sep 17, 2003

I am the Burgundy King,
I can do anything!

Bit of a recency bias on a lot of these, but that is how I roll. My memory is bad and something has to be really great to stick for a decade.

Honorable Mentions

Dark. - I love time loops, but this gets near incomprehensible at times. I feel like this would have been better watched without season breaks. With the watch breaks between seasons it was very hard to keep up.
Doctor Who - It's really been more miss than hit for a while now. But I still love it.
The Owl House - I love it so far. Just barely not on the list.
Over The Garden Wall - Only watched it the once. If I had time to revisit it and see how it holds up for me it might be higher.
Game of Thrones - It just ended so badly for me that it tanked its rating.
Halt and Catch Fire - Not really the type of thing I normally watch, but it was very good.
The Morning Show - Same deal here. These actors are doing a great job.
For All Mankind - It is taking too long to get to the things I really want to see. But it is VERY good. This show could definitely rise in ranking for me with a few more seasons.
Travelers - Neat time travel mechanic that they did some very fun things with.
12 Monkeys - This would be higher, but there were some real lows to go along with the highs of this one. Still, very cool time travel show.
Fringe - I remember really loving this, but at this point I haven't seen it in so long that I can't really compare it with a lot of things I've seen more recently.
Atlanta - Donald Glover is really kicking rear end with this show.

20) Mr Robot

This has to be somewhere on my list. It really was excellent.

19) Orphan Black

Tatiana Maslany's amazing acting just makes this show.

18) The Legend of Korra

This was a super satisfying series. Great characters. Our family liked this better than Avatar.

17) Sense8

This was a bit sexier than I needed from my shows, but the concept and execution were solid and the acting was top notch.

16) Lucifer

I'm not normally one for fairly straight procedurals, and this spends a LOT of its run time sticking to that, but it is really fun. The cast is great. And they do some VERY fun stuff in the final seasons.

15) The 100

This show just kept escalating things and rebooting itself year after year. Never a dull moment.

14) Agents of Shield

It started off a bit slow, but became great for the rest of its run. I'll never tire of watching Coulson and the gang.

13) Ted Lasso

I don't care about soccer and yet. Such a heartwarming, funny, comedy.

12) Counterpart

Bit of a slow burn, but this was a great show that I wish had gone longer. Sci-fi spy thriller for the win.

11) Wandavision

What a fun premise. I would have loved even more of the sitcom stuff and a bit less of the light show at the end and this would have placed higher.

10) Russian Doll

A time loop show done well.

9) Hawkeye

I can't believe this is in my top 10, because Hawkeye? But it was just so fun from beginning to end. I want a lot more of this. More Kate and Yelena please.

8) Continuum

Time travel show with good politics and although they didn't always land everything they tried, I appreciated how much they went for it.

7) Gravity Falls

Favorite animated show my family watched this decade (multiple times).

6) The Magicians

This started out as just a guilty pleasure, but by the end it was just so good.

5) Legion

This didn't always hit on all cylinders for me, story wise, but it was certainly the best comic book show visually and was super creative.

4) Last Week Tonight With John Oliver

Even when the topics are pretty far from something I care about, it is always both educational and entertaining. The consistent quality is what gets this such a high rating.

3) Loki

MCU crossed with time stuff. Very much my jam. I enjoyed every second and can't wait for more.

2)The Good Place

Such a satisfying show from beginning to end. Possibly best sitcom for me ever.

1) The Expanse

Best sci fi on TV. Best sci fi ever?

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Just wanting to confirm. Is this a meme list or do genuinely believe Powers is the greatest show of the last decade and you believe it so much that you didn't even feel the need to capitalise the show title?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Looten Plunder posted:

Just wanting to confirm. Is this a meme list or do genuinely believe Powers is the greatest show of the last decade and you believe it so much that you didn't even feel the need to capitalise the show title?

It’s a meme list. He might try and tell you otherwise, but he’s a filthy liar who has done this poo poo before!!!!

I only have two more entries to write so I am now sure I’ll get it in time for tomorrow night. But jesus, this is exhausting! How do you do it so much, Jerusalem?

Andrew_1985
Sep 18, 2007
Hay hay hay!
Thanks for the reminder PM!

Honourable Mentions – Evergreen series: Great British Bake Off, American Dad, Simpsons, Family Guy, Survivor & The Amazing Race, Selling Houses Australia & House Hunters International. These shows I can always just put on and enjoy.

Infinity Train, Gravity Falls & Ducktales. Great kids shows which ended too soon.

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt & Parks & Recreation – Both very optimistic comedies. Loved them. Especially the interactive Kimmy S episode.

20) Westworld – The robots are more human than the humans! Look, it’s a high-concept glossy, pseudo-intellectual BS with some great action scenes and interesting characters. Except when they don’t use those characters for long stretches. Or kill them off.

19) Stranger Things – Nostalgic crap. Again could do with some tightening up. But overall, very enjoyable. When you hear that Synth for the first time it just activates those memories from the 80s & 90s. S2 is a bit slow. But overall, government conspiracies, psychic powers, hellmouth monsters, plucky child adventurers and a gruff sheriff. Sign me up.

18) Steven Universe – I started watching this show when I was house-sitting and found myself enamoured by the pastel-hued cartoon. By far the worst part of the show is Steven. Connie and the Gems are the best. But it’s a show that has had a lot of positive impacts for LGBTQ+ youth.

17) The Block – It’s been a staple of Australian TV for what, 20 years now? But each year I find myself sucked into this renovating game show. I got my UK housemates hooked when they tried to spout the magic of ’60 minute makeover’ or ‘The House Doctor’. Most of the houses end up being properties which the majority of viewers would happily live in.

16) Upper Middle Bogan – It’s a new generation of Kath & Kim which too many people missed out on. Go find it on Netflix. Like all good Aussie Suburban Satire, you can find elements of the plots & characters in your own family & friends. Me? I probably connect a bit too much with the father.

15) Legion – Some of the trippiest cinematography and some fantastically WEIRD storytelling. Aubrey Plaza is a gem as we explore the mind of tortured mind of David.

14) The Handmaid’s Tale - At times it’s Misery/Torture Porn. But again, shows that this dystopia has 6 degrees of separation from Trump’s America.

13) Russian Doll – It’s a time loop where the universe starts decaying each time our protagonists keep getting brought back. I loved watching/rewatching this show and I hope S2 does not undo any of this.

12) True Blood – While this show started in 2008, by the early 2010s this show was already into it’s complete bullshit. But it was SUCH enjoyable trash. It was a sexy, stupid and gory show which could lean into the fun. And yes, Sookie’s the worst. Pam is the best. Oh and ignore the final season.

11) Superstore – Go back and watch the first episode of Season 6. It was a perfect, terrifying time capsule of the beginning of the 2020 Pandemic. What started as a sly workplace comedy ended up having some storylines which really explored social/current events in the late 2010s.

10) Years & Years – A mini-series starting in the near-future and spanning decades extrapolates our current society and ever-so-slightly shows how hosed our society gets through a combination of lying politicians/media and a lack of humanity in our communities and institutions. My only complaint is the reaction of Tovey’s character at the end of E1. Like WTF man.

9) Chernobyl – Absolutely Gripping. Who knew a retelling of this manmade disaster could be so stressful to watch. Those poor dogs. 3.6? Not great, not terrible.

8) Legends of Tomorrow – After a dour S1, Legends reinvented itself into the ‘Fun’ DC show. The show retools itself again and again, changing out the cast to help keep things fresh. Some cast changes hurt more than others and some stay longer than they should, but overall, it’s a fun show. I’m not a big DC Comics person but I hope they continue this show in comics for years to come.

7) American Horror Story – Always camp & stupid, AHS changes things up every season. It becomes endlessly quotable “He’s a powerbottom & he loves it!” “BALENCIAGA!” “There’s not going to be a swimming pool, you stupid slut!” Some of the strongest seasons were Asylum, Hotel and 1984. However, the show always reinvents itself each year which helps draw me back in each year.

6) Derry Girls – Instantly charming tale of 5 Derry Girls (One of the Derry Girls is a British male) growing up in Ireland in the 90s. The comedy starts off relatable before taking the comedy to an absurd level. Add in some fantastic 90s bangers and the nostalgia comedy is very enjoyable.

5) Legend of Korra – It was never going to live up to Avatar The Last Airbender, however Korra was a more mature take on this universe. And of course the love triangle was terrible, as was the animation in S2, but once you learn about the difficulties behind the scenes you can forgive these transgressions. Korra is brash, aggressive and direct. But she also grows and develops as a character. Korra at the end of S2 is a much different character to that of the pilot & she’s all the better for it. S3 of course is the highlight.

4) Jessica Jones – If Marvel doesn’t bring across Kristen Ritter and Jessica Jones to the MCU, they’re making a massive mistake. Sure, S2/3 aren’t as good as the stellar first season, but what could top David Tennant’s horrific turn as Killgrave? Jessica is such a compelling, flawed and nuanced character. (Shoutout to Agents of SHIELD too)

3) Black Mirror – If you aren’t uneasy considering the implications and future of technology in society after watching this program, there’s something wrong. From the narrative innovative Bandersnatch, to the horrific realism of a social ranking system in Nosedive, each episode offers something different. Some of my personal favourites are Be Right Back, White Bear and of course, San Junipero.

2) RuPaul’s Drag Race – As problematic as RuPaul is as a person, Drag Race and other programs from the early 2010s have increased the visibility of LGBTQ+ people. This program came at a vital time for queer rights (Australia’s 2014 Gay Marriage Plebicite) and helped mainstream viewers understand and enjoy queer culture (There’s a whole other discussion to have here). Now there’s hundreds of hours of Drag Race, dozens of winners, at least 10 spinoffs and the dead eyes of RuPaul and Michelle Visage cracking the same tired jokes.

1) The Good Place – The initial premise was so far removed from any sitcom I’d heard of before. However, this show expertly explores mortality, human nature and our own human flaws and expectations whilst juggling some sly social commentary, slapstick comedy and just gut-punch emotions. I still remember watching the finale of the program on a plane and my own quiet sobs I tried to conceal from the other passengers around me. Tahani, Jason, Eleanor, Janet, Chidi & Michael pretty much hit this out of the park.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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So this is basically just a list of "shows I can remember watching and liking" more than anything comparing to the huge review-length OP-grade lists other people have posted, so don't ascribe any more than the most basic participant vote weighting to this if you can help it. But I managed to think of 20, so without even bothering to rank them, here they are and have fun.

- 20. Aggretsuko. I like it, shut up.

- 19. Bridgerton. What if a period regency bodice-ripper was done with a colorblind cast? Neat idea and they mostly pull it off (I'm still not sure where they're going by actually acknowledging an alt-history premise rather than just casting in a colorblind way and never mentioning it), but it's a good story and absolutely gorgeous.

- 18. Steven Universe. The people behind this show deserve every award. Cartoons are wasted on kids (but the kids watching this one will grow up way better than I did)

- 17. Squid Game. Just so excellently done. Came because of the memes, left thinking I still have plenty to learn about humanity and the world.

- 16. Big Mouth. Don't let the ugly style throw you off, it's (theoretically) intentional. But it's smart and the heart is absolutely in the right place, and loving insanely funny.

- 15. The Last Kingdom. Historical nerdery from exactly the era that sizzles my bacon. Favorite moment: when Hild (a Saxon nun) says "I want you to teach me sword-craft" and Uhtred says "Fine, but we Danes call it sword-skill." :dance: God drat that is so right up my alley, I love these people for what they love

- 14. She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. They put in the effort and it shows. Absolutely fantastic.

- 13. For All Mankind. What if the Soviets beat us to the moon all our astronaut heroes were women? Sounds like a :350: premise, but god drat does it end up making for a great story. It's my favorite example to throw in the face of people who say "go woke go broke"

- 12. Chernobyl. Definitely

- 11. MLP: FIM. gently caress you I'm going here. I've written more words about this show elsewhere than I've ever posted here on SA, so I'm not going to even start. But I will say I'm glad I'm not the first person in this thread to do so.

- 10. The Morning Show. It's for our time. And Jennifer Aniston is growing into the Meryl Streep ice-queen persona somehow, which I never saw coming, but holy hell does she do it.

- 9. The Expanse. At least for like the first 3 seasons or so. Finally sci-fi I can respect myself for watching.

- 8. Cobra Kai. Such a goofball 80s romp, but it leans into its shallowness and keeps finding more actors from the original to bring back for a lol. The latest season with Terry Silver showing up out of nowhere makes me wonder if there's nothing they can't pull off in the name of the original joke, which is to take the popular meme of "hey did you ever notice that in The Karate Kid, Daniel was actually kind of the rear end in a top hat?" and dig aaaaall the way into it.

- 7. Schitt’s Creek. It's like someone decided to remake Arrested Development but not let it disappear up its own rear end with cleverness. Also unlike AD, it's sweet and earnest and every character is a member of the family by the end of it. It ends on a slightly on-the-nose note but holy poo poo did they earn it. It's Eugene Levy's life masterwork, on a lot of levels.

- 6. The Good Place. I'm only halfway through S2 of it, but the twist in S1's finale is all it was cracked up to be and then some, especially since it makes S2 operate on a whole other level because they just keep upping the game. A show that says "epistemiological" next to a masturbation joke is such my poo poo. Also the guy playing Jason is the greatest joy. Every loving word out of his mouth I am just grinning like a goof

- 5. Veep. Intricate and incisive comedy that got overtaken by the absurdity of real-life politics, but that shouldn't diminish it or its character development. Jonah, jesus

- 4. Better Call Saul. What started with BB's comic-relief character underlying the show's fundamentally comedy premise is now a turgid drama but holy poo poo did I never imagine Bah Bodenkirk could act.

- 3. Bojack Horseman. Sad horse cartoon ends up being the most intense psychological study I've seen in years.

- 2. Breaking Bad. Great story, great performances, upped the game forever for what TV is.

- 1. Twin Peaks: The Return. This better make it onto the final list. Can't make the case for it any better than anyone else has, but it just had better. I'm such a sucker for these bring-back-the-original-cast reboot/revisits and when they pay off this well, it's like magic is happening.


E: Rearranged to put them in ranking order fine

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Jan 10, 2022

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Incidentally this is a list I was jotting down elsewhere of continuations/reboots/rebuilds/whatever you want to call it of properties hitting the nostalgia pipe and bringing back the original cast:

- Twin Peaks
- Bill & Ted Face the Music
- Jay & Silent Bob Reboot
- Cobra Kai
- Star Wars
- Full House
- Punky Brewster
- Animaniacs
- Indiana Jones(?)
- Coming 2 America
- Roseanne
- Murphy Brown
- Mad About You
- Gilmore Girls
- Arrested Development
- Rocky
- Rambo
- Terminator(?)
- Blade Runner
- Tron
- Independence Day
- Top Gun
- Pee-Wee’s Big Holiday
- Wayne’s World / Uber Eats ads
- Melrose Place (2009)

Seems to be happening even more than I'd realized

E: And every time they do it, it makes me think about the nature of aging

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 9, 2022

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

achillesforever6 posted:

Cutting it down the wire with my list

15 Sex House/Lake Dredge Appraisal/Porking Across America
I put these 3 together mainly because I feel like it felt almost like an anthology The Onion Youtube Channel was doing of these pastiches that just turned into surreal/unsettling horror. Rarity already said the piece on Sex House better than I could, Lake Dredge I found to be the funniest as someone who just likes deliberately low rent stuff, Porking Across America is one of the darkest black comedies of the 21st century and needs to be seen to believed.

14Jessica Jones
Season 1 is all I saw so it tells a pretty straightforward story and David Tennant is loving terrifying

13 Punisher
Again only really saw season 1, Punisher is a really strong show that goes out of it's way to not glorify Frank Castle which is unfortunately a hard tightrope to walk in adapting him.

12 Legend of Korra
Season 2 nonewithstanding, Korra is still a good show though wish the politics of it were better, still got a strong cast of characters, amazingly epic fights, and I think seasons 3&4 make up for the 1st 2 lackluster to bad seasons.

11 Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated Mystery Inc took a franchise which barring the made for VHS movies of the late 90s early 2000s and brought fresh air to it with an actual narrative while still being monster of the week. That and combined with an insane voice acting cast not seen since like Justice League Unlimited and you got one of the best cartoons of the 2000s

10 Gravity Falls Probably my favorite kids cartoon of the decade, just sharp wit, a charming art style, and just fun characters.

9 Daredevil
Got to give it to OG Netflix Marvel show, Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio are electric as Murdock and Fisk respectfully, action scenes are good to great and while the slog of the seasons being 1-2 episodes too much hurts, I think it hurts Daredevil the least.

8 Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Pt 4 Diamond is Unbreakable
Want to highlight JJBA Pt4 since it's still my favorite part where Araki really hits his stride and it is probably his most cohesive story adapted so far. Love the colors and both voice versions.

7 WWE NXT
NXT before like 2020 was something I cherished and kept my sanity, until I completely burnt out of wrestling due to collective guilt of supporting WWE and just not being able to lie to myself that I enjoyed it
6 AEW Dynamite
Getting into Dynamite mid 2021 revitalized my love of wrestling and made me feel less bitter overall; helps it's coming at the inverse of me burning out of leftist organizing so it has felt like a nice change in pace to be excited every Wednesday to watch some quality wrestling.

5 American Gods Much like Legend of Korra and Jessica Jones this show is rated on the parts and not the sum. Season 1 of American Gods is all I ever wanted out of a Neil Gaiman adaptation and it's a crime what happened after such a strong showing. Thankfully Gaiman rebounded with Good Omens and hopefully Anasi Boys and The Sandman fair better, but holy poo poo season one of AG is some of the most beautiful stuff put on TV.

4 Venture Bros
I'm glad we are getting the TV special to finish the series, though it's bittersweet in that I never wanted it to end. It felt like an event once a new season started and you'd get 6-8 weeks of glorious discussion on what the best bits were, the references, etc etc.

3 Better Call Saul
Never saw Breaking Bad, but this show had me hooked, is it because at the time I was on a Mr. Show kick? Probably, but it's a shame how this show has never gotten it's due. Other's have put it much better that I can't say more.

2 Twin Peaks: The Return
Like BCS I can't add to what others have eloquently said about how good this show is

1 Agents of Shield
I feel if anyone knows me (and most don't I assume most set me on ignore lol) they know I've always rated this show as number 1 whenever given the opportunity and much to the chagrin of said folks I imagine. What can I say, never been a Buffy Whedon guy, but this show hits all the notes as a nice comfort to watch with a cast that really felt like a family with good vibes. I will forever defend this show that got written off by people who didn't stick with it and thought it just stayed the same as the first episode. My dark secret is though I've never seen the final season somehow. I miss the live thread posting and it was always a blast.
Made a change for my list sorry
11 Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated Mystery Inc took a franchise which barring the made for VHS movies of the late 90s early 2000s and brought fresh air to it with an actual narrative while still being monster of the week. That and combined with an insane voice acting cast not seen since like Justice League Unlimited and you got one of the best cartoons of the 2000s

10 Gravity Falls Probably my favorite kids cartoon of the decade, just sharp wit, a charming art style, and just fun characters.

cryptoclastic
Jul 3, 2003

The Jesus
There are a LOT of shows I haven't watched, and some I'm in the middle of but haven't finished. Consider this list imperfect, but it will have to do for now.

20. Westworld
The first season was one of the best television experiences I’ve ever had. I watched it on a flight from Korea to the US, and it made that terrible flight go by a LOT faster. Seasons two and three however…not so much.

19. The Good Place
Fun and happy but didn’t quite grab me. I still liked it.

18. Game of Thrones
When this was awesome, it was amazing. At some point however I just stopped caring and missed a few seasons. Eventually finished it, but meh.

17. Joe Pera Talks with You
Lovable show that starts to really reel you in and make you care about all the characters.

16. The Good Lord Bird
Ethan Hawke was great as John Brown.

15. Narcos
Really liked the first two seasons. Wagner Moura as Pablo Escobar was great.

14. Stranger Things
Season one was amazing, and while the other season aren’t as good they’re still fun.

13. Ted Lasso
Season one was one of the best TV experiences of my life, but season two was missing some of that magic. Still good enough to land here.

12. It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
How is this show still good?

11. Schitt’s Creek
Heartwarming, but at times a bit slow. Good background TV.

10. Fleabag
Went into this knowing nothing and came out very surprised. Short and too the point.

9. Barry
This is a hell of a ride and I can’t wait to see what happens.

8. The Mandalorian
Star Wars. Baby Yoda. What’s not to love?

7. How to with John Wilson
Only one season of this aired in the proper decade, but man that was an interesting season. Because of this I fell I now know about Nathan for You, but I haven’t quite finished it yet so it can’t go on here.

6. What We Do In the Shadows
Based on the premise I didn’t want to watch this at all. But drat are these vampires lovable.

5. Dark
This was weird and confusing but amazing in all the right ways.

4. Better Call Saul
A spin-off that may go on to be even better than the original.

3. Atlanta
I had heard about this but never watched it until last year. Donald Glover is a genius.

2. Chernobyl
This gave me chills. Short but very well done.

1. Breaking Bad
Every episode I watched felt better than the last. Since everything is streaming these days this was probably the last show I actually kept up with on a week to week basis. And it spawned one of the best spin-offs ever.

So that's my attempt at a list for the decade. Now to finish Nathan for You, Community, and start a bunch of other shows from other lists.

Looten Plunder
Jul 11, 2006
Grimey Drawer

Data Graham posted:

So this is basically just a list of "shows I can remember watching and liking" more than anything comparing to the huge review-length OP-grade lists other people have posted, so don't ascribe any more than the most basic participant vote weighting to this if you can help it. But I managed to think of 20, so without even bothering to rank them, here they are and have fun.

Your commentary is fine. But I can't do anything with this unless you attribute a ranking to them. You've done 90% of the hard work, make it count.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Looten Plunder posted:

Your commentary is fine. But I can't do anything with this unless you attribute a ranking to them. You've done 90% of the hard work, make it count.

Very well, edited.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I will never understand why so many people need to be promoted to do this properly. But hey, it’s a great fuckin list 😎

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Escobarbarian posted:

I only have two more entries to write so I am now sure I’ll get it in time for tomorrow night. But jesus, this is exhausting! How do you do it so much, Jerusalem?

The trick is to commit yourself to having to do something extremely important and then procrastinating for as long as possible till you can no longer put off doing it... at which point you will be overwhelmed with motivation to instead write up a Ranking list about television shows!

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Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
Finding the right list of shows is the hard part, the actual ranking is fun, staring into the soul of your favorite shows to find out how you truly feel about them.
Why wouldn’t you want to rank them?

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