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boop the snoot posted:as long as $$$ is the name of the game for the people in charge then you can pretty much dream up any government you want and it'll still find a way to suck It's like playing a board game with an rear end in a top hat. They'll argue the letter of the law to break the spirit of the law, plead the spirit of the law to break the letter, and willingly misinterpret rules that are clear as day to gain a minor advantage. No form of government on any level can survive having bad-faith actors at the top, and the only thing you can really do is try and limit the power and numbers of assholes who make it in—because there will always be assholes who want nothing more than to be at the top, regardless of what system you have in place. (This is why, though I am not an anarchist myself, I have a lot of sympathy for anarchist philosophy: because they are fundamentally correct that any system that allows one person to have power over another will inevitably be abused by those with power against those who don't.)
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stealie72 posted:One of the things the last 5 years has screamed loudly into the ears of anyone listening is just how half-baked the government that booted up in 1789 was, and how it survived fairly well for at least 200 years based largely on reasonable people being reasonable and making handshake deals that plastered over all the gaps. I get a chicken/egg divide in my feelings on this. The US has absolutely been held together by bubble gum and duct tape norms that plastered over the flaws. The flip side of my thoughts on this are that when a critical mass of an organization like a society care about nothing but hatred of the other and attempting violence on them I don't see how much of any system continues functioning under those conditions. Brutally suppressional totalitarianism maybe, where bigger guns leave no options. Anything short of that though, when too many of the people in a system decide hating the other is more important than the system how does anything stand against that tide?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Things are looking bad for Tonga US can just dock a nuke there and get easy power generation and desalination right?
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"After terrible misunderstanding, US nukes Tonga."
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FrozenVent posted:How are you surprised by this? This poo poo is EXACTLY the intent of these laws. Drip drip dripping our way into christofacist sharia law.
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facialimpediment posted:Best general description of the administration and our collective attitude about it: Ive had that shower thought before. either we need to massively increase the effectiveness of education on the populace, to spread and lighten the load. orrrr the complexity will reduce by itself. You can guess how the latter will happen.
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WOW the moral high ground for Democrats just gained another 10k feet with this TN news! Can't wait to donate to stop this kind of thing.
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I’m starting to think TN is going to be the first to restrict voting access to white Christian landowning males
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crazyivan45 posted:I’m starting to think TN is going to be the first to restrict voting access to white Christian landowning males Hard to be first when that used to be every state.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:"After terrible misunderstanding, US nukes Tonga." You'd make a terrible WH press secretary. "US takes swift action to reduce magnitude of future refugee crisis due to naturally occurring climate change. Anyone affected who did not see this coming ahould have referred to sea level forecasts freely available on the internet." Or the official map locked in a disused basement lavatory with a sign saying "beware of jaguar" on the door.
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Lol. Tennessee. That lol is in the sense of crack-ping. Not "lol, disparaged minorities getting hosed" lol. They also have a bill they want to name after Rittenhouse.
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Tennessee is a loving weird state. A lot bigger than you’d think. Tennessee in general is MAGA country, but it’s real bad outside the blacker counties. And lest we forget: Shelby County V. Holder came straight from Tennessee. (Shelby county is the Memphis area) It’s a loving awful state, politically. But within my living memory I recall this being the State of Al Gore and big leaders in the civil rights movement before that (not so much my memory on the latter). It’s been all downhill since the Clinton era. Again, politically. It sucks that all the places I like geographically are filled with chuds. Maybe it’s because I grew up around chuds that I have the same taste.
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The South is pretty much dead to me, despite growing up and spending the majority of my life there. As I get older I've found I have less and less common with my fellow southerners. Though to be fair, I didn't like them much when I was younger either. The religiousness of the South always rubbed me the wrong way and I never enjoyed the standard redneck stuff like football and hunting. I'll be living here in the Pacific Northwest until the day I die, much better quality of people out here.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:It sucks that all the places I like geographically are filled with chuds. Maybe it’s because I grew up around chuds that I have the same taste. The South and Appalachia are places of stunning physical and natural beauty but are inhabited by some of the worst people in the country.
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Thwomp posted:The South and Appalachia are places of stunning physical and natural beauty but are inhabited by some of the worst people in the country. I feel the same way about much of Arizona and Utah. So many awful people living in some of the most incredible natural landscapes on the planet.
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You could say that about literally everywhere. People ruin everything about the natural world, it's kind of our thing.
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That's why I like the PNW, or at least western WA. You're surrounded by mountains, forests full of huge evergreens and the Puget Sound is probably my favorite body of water anywhere in the world. Watched sea lions from the beach this morning while I was eating breakfast.
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It's also nice that in Seattle if you express MAGA beliefs you're much more likely to be punched in the face than find a sympathic ear.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:It sucks that all the places I like geographically are filled with chuds. Maybe it’s because I grew up around chuds that I have the same taste. I spend a lot of time doing recreational activities in West Virginia and I'm head over heels in love with the geography of the state but man most of the people that live there can go gently caress themselves. Meanwhile, NYT has a story about how the US-led coalition in Syria bombed the Taqba Dam in March 2017- despite it being on a "do not target" list- nearly causing it to fail. If that had happened, potentially tens of thousands of people could have been killed and the effects would have been apparent 100 miles downstream. It came so close to failing that ISIS, the Syrian Democratic Forces and the Syrian government agreed on a hasty truce to prevent the dam falling entirely. US SOF on the ground apparently called in the strikes on the dam itself for "terrain denial" and had a B-52 first drop airburst munitions, then hit the concrete structures on the dam (again prohibited due to the high risk of the dam failing) with three 2,000 lbs bombs. Whoopsie! https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/us/airstrike-us-isis-dam.html quote:Less than 24 hours after the strikes, American-backed forces, Russian and Syrian officials and the Islamic State coordinated a pause in hostilities. A team of 16 workers — some from the Islamic State, some from the Syrian government, some from American allies — drove to the site, according to the engineer, who was with the group.
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Western Washington is appealing to me, if only because there are more geological events that could kill me there. I want to plant my rear end between two volcanoes and wait for one top pop with a front row seat. Maybe someday.
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Mustang posted:That's why I like the PNW, or at least western WA. You're surrounded by mountains, forests full of huge evergreens and the Puget Sound is probably my favorite body of water anywhere in the world. Watched sea lions from the beach this morning while I was eating breakfast. And there's a convenient mountain range between you and the chudly hill folk of the eastern half of the state! If I had to move to the US Seattle would be my top choice. It's basically the same as Vancouver, just with the second amendment instead of universal healthcare. Super looking forward to visiting again in the spring.
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Mustang posted:That's why I like the PNW, or at least western WA. You're surrounded by mountains, forests full of huge evergreens and the Puget Sound is probably my favorite body of water anywhere in the world. Watched sea lions from the beach this morning while I was eating breakfast. Have you pet a Sea Lion yet?
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The PNW is one of two areas of the contiguous US I haven't driven through yet (The other being the upper NE), and I really want to go. I'd love to spend a whole month just driving and hiking around, and checking out some of the big air museums up there.
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Yeah it's both funny and convenient that there is a literal mountain range separating the liberal and conservative sides of WA. Western WA has like 90% of the scenic parts of the state, unless you're one of those weirdos that prefers deserts to trees.
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maffew buildings posted:WOW the moral high ground for Democrats just gained another 10k feet with this TN news! Can't wait to donate to stop this kind of thing.
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Mustang posted:Yeah it's both funny and convenient that there is a literal mountain range separating the liberal and conservative sides of WA. Western WA has like 90% of the scenic parts of the state, unless you're one of those weirdos that prefers deserts to trees. It is my professional opinion that both trees and deserts are Extremely Cool. e: other cool places include mountains, canyons, lakes, and other large bodies of water Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Jan 20, 2022 |
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Western Washington is appealing to me, if only because there are more geological events that could kill me there. I want to plant my rear end between two volcanoes and wait for one top pop with a front row seat. Also Bigfoot!
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Comparison pics of Tonga here: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/459912/safety-at-tonga-port-being-checked-for-arrival-of-more-humanitarian-supplies
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Acebuckeye13 posted:It is my professional opinion that both trees and deserts are Extremely Cool. Well, they can definitely be scenic but I can't stand the dust and dirt that gets into everything that comes with living in a desert.
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Cugel the Clever posted:Jesus gently caress does your first reaction to anti-Semetic Christo-fascism really have to be whining about Democrats fundraising?? because the national party has zero desire to actually contest anything in red states and sees them just as a vehicle to fundraise with awful candidates like Amy McGrath and MJ Hegar who appeal to the PMC
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Proud Christian Mom posted:because the national party has zero desire to actually contest anything in red states and sees them just as a vehicle to fundraise with awful candidates like Amy McGrath and MJ Hegar who appeal to the PMC Yeah this is absolutely undeniable in the wake of making the guy who spent $100,000,000 losing to Lindsey Graham by 12 chair of the DNC. They're not even pretending anymore.
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shame on an IGA posted:Yeah this is absolutely undeniable in the wake of making the guy who spent $100,000,000 losing to Lindsey Graham by 12 chair of the DNC. They're not even pretending anymore. It's almost like The Producers at this point.
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POTATOH THE HUMANITY https://twitter.com/MSPPIO_NW/status/1484147503612190724?t=ZcKVpckC4aC0OwORHM_kog&s=19 https://www.kare11.com/article/traffic/i-94-eastbound-closed-albertville-potato-truck/89-047bdf96-7b69-4f5c-a2ac-aaaf870224ff It's currently 1° in Minnesota, so the truck's potatoes froze and basically became caltrop boulders on the interstate 
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Comparison pics of Tonga here: Holy loving poo poo At what point do you just have to up and bring those people back with you as climate refugees? Without fresh water those people are completely reliant on outside help. At what point do these people realize their home is unfortunately not adequately habitable any longer? On another note, at what point do we need to start building nuclear power plants to power massive desalinization plants because WE'RE going to run out of fresh water? Why the gently caress isn't anyone important or in power talking about this poo poo? Why the gently caress are we fighting about water in the western states when the federal government can create tens of thousands of jobs making nuke plants and desalination plants and make sure we have enough loving water, the literal lifeblood of humanity without which we're all going to loving die but cool cool cool lets just let corporations keep buying the rights to it we'll just all have to become loving moisture farmers won't we?
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Bored As gently caress posted:On another note, at what point do we need to start building nuclear power plants to power massive desalinization plants because WE'RE going to run out of fresh water? Given the average budget and schedule overrun on nuclear plant construction... Uh, maybe a decade ago?
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Bored As gently caress posted:Holy loving poo poo There was a documentary about this from the 90's called Tank Girl.
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