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Sapozhnik posted:Immutable /usr really. I use Fedora Silverblue on my desktop and I like it a lot. Toolbox containers for command line tools, Podman containers for dev servers, Flatpak containers for desktop applications. System upgrades build a new hidden /usr in the background and you switch to it by rebooting. valve is going in a similar direction for steamos 3, with the root file system being immutable (by default at least, apparently there will be a switch if you are intent on janitoring a handheld gaming device)
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yeah count me in as another happy silverblue user I really respect that when I actually needed to edit a file in /etc, I was able to try it as a _temporary_ change, but in order to make it permanent I had to write my edit as a rpm file and install it as any other package so it could be reverted if needed didn't expect a relatively "mainstream" distro to have the balls to actually forbid sysadmins from being lazy
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 not sure if you're trolling but /etc is mutable. the end goal is to ship a completely empty /etc and to merge&default from /usr/etc.
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NihilCredo posted:I really respect that when I actually needed to edit a file in /etc, I was able to try it as a _temporary_ change, but in order to make it permanent I had to write my edit as a rpm file and install it as any other package so it could be reverted if needed
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:how is this not considered actual violence, considering how hostile it is to sysadmins? sysadmins who edit files by hand in 2022 deserve all possible hostility
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Nomnom Cookie posted:sysadmins who edit files by hand in 2022 deserve all possible hostility
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lot of predictable posting gimmicks in this thread  wish we could get a hot take from nbsd Editing files by hand is gonna be necessary for development servers, people learning Linux, and physical servers. Maybe a fully declarative and package-manager-maintained configuration would be really nice for virtual machines in a cloud environment. But not everyone runs their outfit out of aws or azure.
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isn't coreOS like an appliance-ified linux with immutable-ish / , and config managed by crio when fed base64 encoded yaml somehow ? e: oop - ignition handles config, not crio - which is a podman/docker/container runtime fresh_cheese fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Feb 2, 2022 |
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sb hermit posted:lot of predictable posting gimmicks in this thread the last place i worked at that had physical servers was AOL and even in 2013 they weren't editing files by hand. at that place "log aggregation" meant each prod server had a daily cron job to rsync logs to the archive server, and they weren't editing files by hand. not everyone gets to live in the good place, sure. some people will be forced by malicious policy or unfortunate circumstance to stay in the bad place. that doesn't mean their suffering is noble, necessary, or even justified. it's just something that happens and doesn't have to.
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Sapozhnik posted:
my bad it was to put a file in /lib not /etc that i had needed to create a rpm package (/etc is mutable but still layered iirc) sorry for accidentally trolling the windows thread
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sb hermit posted:lot of predictable posting gimmicks in this thread So use literally any other distro or operating system what a stupid post
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Mr. Crow posted:So use literally any other distro or operating system what a stupid post did you forget where you're posting I'm not saying that people have to use one or the other. I'm just pointing out that no single distribution will cover all requirements.
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if youre in a cloud it literally doesnt matter at all what distro you use, because it's just a substrate that you run packer on and shove into an asg. thats why coreos failed
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I want to browse the internet while pretending I'm elite hacker-man, what OS should I use for that?
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The Wisest Moron posted:I want to browse the internet while pretending I'm elite hacker-man, what OS should I use for that? https://www.morphos-team.net
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The Wisest Moron posted:I want to browse the internet while pretending I'm elite hacker-man, what OS should I use for that? lynx in a tiling window manager on arch, op
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my homie dhall posted:lynx in a tiling window manager on arch, op Thank you kindly 
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but op, what about w3m?
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i thought this was just a regular 2010-style user-friendly 'multimedia' distro, kinda like ubuntu studio but xfce-based or more generally 'lightweight', so i was wondering ytf you thought it would have nerd cred took me until i stumbled on the hardware compatibility page for the penny to drop
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The Wisest Moron posted:I want to browse the internet while pretending I'm elite hacker-man, what OS should I use for that?
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emacs w3-mode in an emacs window in full-screen text mode using a 5×7 font
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i like it, being able to play wipeout is a feature too many other operating systems have left to the wayside imo
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quote:Figure out how to make pacman skip all package conflict checks, possibly by editing the pacman source code and disabling the relevant code that does these checks, so we can really install every single Arch package.
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Cutefish Desktop e: oh okay it's just a macos ripoff 
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heh It's 2022: Linux Open-Source GPU Drivers Seeing 3dfx Glide API Support would actually be fun with native glide support on linux if wine could be made to support it. i still have some glide games installed, using an opengl wrapper
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Tankakern posted:heh I always thought the classic glide games were DOS, like tomb raider and glquake (which used a glide minidriver to translate opengl to glide), because direct3d was gonna come eat Glide's market share like crazy. Although I guess there may have been some win95 games that used glide. Probably one of the most notable glide games was Ultima 9. And I remember playing an n64 emulator in the real late 90s or so that only ran on glide.
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I think I remember Earth 2150 could use glide or opengl. Man, I want to play Earth 2150 now. And Warzone 2100.
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good news, earth is on sale right now for a couple bucks on steam and runs great with protonsb hermit posted:Although I guess there may have been some win95 games that used glide. Probably one of the most notable glide games was Ultima 9. And I remember playing an n64 emulator in the real late 90s or so that only ran on glide. carmageddon 2 was amazing on voodoo and poo poo on everything else iirc lmao software renderer was what it was, and opengl crashed regularly
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I own physical copies of Earth 2150 and its expansions. It's a good game.
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half life had glide support as well but that custom minigl driver was way faster on voodoo cards anyway
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sb hermit posted:I always thought the classic glide games were DOS, like tomb raider and glquake (which used a glide minidriver to translate opengl to glide), because direct3d was gonna come eat Glide's market share like crazy. most glide games were for windows (glquake was built on winquake, don't forget to re-vis the maps for transparent water). dos glide games like tomb raider were the exception the hardware rendering in the original unreal engine was basically built around glide and ran like garbage on the opengl and d3d backends for a long time this is neat, but why is it needed when glide→gl wrappers have been around for 20 years? The_Franz fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Feb 4, 2022 |
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The_Franz posted:this is neat, but why is it needed when glide→gl wrappers have been around for 20 years? it isn't, the guy openly admitted that he did it for fun and to learn systems-level programming with rust which sounds weird for a PR to a kernel driver, but when you think about it, every systems programmer has to write their first driver at some point and this is just about the lowest-stake one imaginable
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it's not needed for anything other that retro coding, if you fancy making anything new with 3dfx on linux or something he says it's "for fun" in the merge request edit: too late there, and yes that rust thingie also, didn't think about that
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NihilCredo posted:it isn't, the guy openly admitted that he did it for fun and to learn systems-level programming with rust It's not even a kernel driver. So really, ultra-low stakes.
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Plasma 5.24.0 is out!
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