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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


No. 6 posted:

Love to flip my radio into Park on the highway.

"oH bUt It WoN't AlLoW tHaT!" like excusing poo poo design is a thing sane humans do.

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a sexual elk
May 16, 2007

Best part of having an old poo poo kicker Sierra

Knooooobs

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



Potentiometer knob for linear selection of gears

Touchscreen with deeply nested hierarchy for seat controls and radio volume

Momentary buttons to move through an infinitely adjustable range

Thumbwheels to select and actuate randomly presented items in a list


Some fuckin Good Place poo poo

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Data Graham posted:

Potentiometer knob for linear selection of gears

Touchscreen with deeply nested hierarchy for seat controls and radio volume

Momentary buttons to move through an infinitely adjustable range

Thumbwheels to select and actuate randomly presented items in a list


Some fuckin Good Place poo poo
:hmmyes;

The experimental plane I'm building will have one linear slider to control throttle, prop pitch, mixture and flaps. There will be a capacitive button (just one) to toggle between the modes. And another button to toggle between engine 1 and 2.

a primate
Jun 2, 2010

mobby_6kl posted:

:hmmyes;

The experimental plane I'm building will have one linear slider to control throttle, prop pitch, mixture and flaps. There will be a capacitive button (just one) to toggle between the modes. And another button to toggle between engine 1 and 2.

None of this will be possible with gloves on

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

a primate posted:

None of this will be possible with gloves on
Ok I'll add voice-activated control then :shrug:

Alexa, flaps 20.



Don't worry, there's always going to be at least one knob in your Sierra
vvvv

mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Feb 10, 2022

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


a sexual elk posted:

Best part of having an old poo poo kicker Sierra

Knooooobs

My new Sierra still has knobs, it is what makes it professional grade.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

The only professional grade knob in my car is the one in the driver seat.

:v:

welcome 2 Clown Town
Aug 1, 2006

GALAXY'S #2 SCULL*!

*scrunt skull

MrYenko posted:

The only professional grade knob in my car is the one in the driver seat.

:v:

actual lol

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


MrYenko posted:

The only professional grade knob in my car is the one in the driver seat.

:v:

New thread title

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



We are finally delivering disruption to the brake pedal industry and we're excited to have you on board. The traditional brake pedal has been removed to quicken adaptation. To use the brakes, simply push the capacitive steering wheel button down for more braking force, and up for less. Remember that our brake control is built for precision, so each button press adds or removes 0.1% application. A new feature to be released at a later time will allow you to hold the up or down buttons for as much as 5% actuation per minute.

Please note that the brakes are currently in an open beta and we are not responsible or liable for their use or software issues arising from this program.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Who let Citroen in here

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Nissan tried their one pedal thing in the UK I remember. Leaf came with a brake and an accelerator but has 'e pedal mode' where it just starts regen braking when you lift off.

quote:

There is just one flaw in it – and that’s what happens when you’re forced to brake harder using the pedal. Imagine the scene: your cruising to a stop at a set of red lights when a pedestrian runs out in front of you and you need to perform an emergency stop. If the car’s sensors have seen it, they’ll take over and automatically brake. But if you’ve spotted the potential problem in your peripheral vision, your human reaction time will be far quicker than the machine.

So here’s the sequence of events. You spot the hazard, come off the e-pedal completely and go for the brake. Problem number one – the brake pedal doesn’t follow the e-pedal braking, so you have to go through all the extra pedal travel before it ‘bites’. The second problem, is that the car hits a weird neutral spot for a split second as you make the transition from braking with the accelerator to braking with the brake pedal. It actually stops braking as you make the switch.

This all adds up to a much longer braking time than your brain has anticipated and calibrated for. And it’s this that means, right now, we’re not convinced the e-pedal is a good thing.

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Olympic Mathlete posted:

Nissan tried their one pedal thing in the UK I remember. Leaf came with a brake and an accelerator but has 'e pedal mode' where it just starts regen braking when you lift off.

One pedal driving is something pretty much every modern EV offers, as well as many plug-in hybrids. It's pretty popular, and I prefer it myself as well.

As soon as you lift off the accelerator, the car goes into regen, so you're already braking before you're even pressing the brake pedal, leading to a shorter reaction time.

Fame Douglas fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Feb 13, 2022

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Why not allow the e-pedal but keep the brake pedal so that it is always available?

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Scratch Monkey posted:

Why not allow the e-pedal but keep the brake pedal so that it is always available?

That's how all those cars work, you still have two pedals, lifting off the accelerator fully simply activates maximum regenerative braking.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Wouldn't it be better to just put hydraulic brakes on the same pedal as well? No way to confuse pedals and no time wastes moving foot in an emergency. Plus you eliminate at least one assembly with the actual pedal but also the parking brake is always applied automatically. Someone send this to Elon.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

…What?

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice
So simple. Two feet, two pedals :smug: Why make it harder?

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

mobby_6kl posted:

Wouldn't it be better to just put hydraulic brakes on the same pedal as well? No way to confuse pedals and no time wastes moving foot in an emergency. Plus you eliminate at least one assembly with the actual pedal but also the parking brake is always applied automatically. Someone send this to Elon.



Or we could just leave it the way it is, because its the industry standard that everyone is taught how to use, and going to single pedal does not significantly reduce the cost or complexity of the vehicle.

Frank Dillinger
May 16, 2007
Jawohl mein herr!

MRC48B posted:

Or we could just leave it the way it is, because its the industry standard that everyone is taught how to use, and going to single pedal does not significantly reduce the cost or complexity of the vehicle.

Also if your foot slips off this one pedal situation wouldn’t that trigger a 100% panic braking scenario?

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


What I need is the pedal replaced with a knob or even better a slider on a touchscreen.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

I can’t believe I have to ask this, but you guys do realize that cars with one pedal driving still have a brake pedal, right?

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

MrYenko posted:

I can’t believe I have to ask this, but you guys do realize that cars with one pedal driving still have a brake pedal, right?

You do, because I can easily see tech bros being like "we're disrupting the pedal industry!" and inventing a pedal that is basically a speed selector. Push it to the position that matches the speed you want and when you take your foot off the regen braking automatically kicks in.

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.
I have read someone's design for a combined power and brake pedal. The pedal is a lever attached on the top and you press it with your heel, this is the brake function. But the pedal is also hinged at the bottom like some tractor or Porsche pedals. You twist the pedal forward and this is the accelerator function.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
Bring on the robot cars and ban human drivers

just end it

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

MrYenko posted:

…What?

Actual one-pedal driving, because there won't be a second pedal!


MRC48B posted:

Or we could just leave it the way it is, because its the industry standard that everyone is taught how to use, and going to single pedal does not significantly reduce the cost or complexity of the vehicle.

We could, but it wouldn't be as funny. Plus it probably saves at least $10 per car.


BigPaddy posted:

What I need is the pedal replaced with a knob or even better a slider on a touchscreen.
:hmmyes: BigPaddy gets it

Fame Douglas
Nov 20, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

BigPaddy posted:

What I need is the pedal replaced with a knob or even better a slider on a touchscreen.

Please don't post classified information from your workplace at Tesla.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
gently caress that poo poo. We need a cup where you place your heel. Then you tilt/pivot your foot right or left depending on brake or acceleration

Night Danger Moose
Jan 5, 2004

YO SOY FIESTA

No pedals. All acceleration and braking is done by tilting the steering wheel forward or backwards respectively.

kronix
Jul 1, 2004

No accelerator or brakes as the car uses camera based AI to determine how fast or slow you want to actually go.

bad_fmr
Nov 28, 2007

Voice commands to set speed and to decelerate or brake obviously.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Just get the brain chip and think about where you want to go.

stone soup
Jul 8, 2004

Saukkis posted:

I have read someone's design for a combined power and brake pedal. The pedal is a lever attached on the top and you press it with your heel, this is the brake function. But the pedal is also hinged at the bottom like some tractor or Porsche pedals. You twist the pedal forward and this is the accelerator function.

fwiw this already exists in a similar form thats utilized on electric warehousing carts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wEUYN2mYxs&t=154s

(should be timestamped to 2m34s)

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

stone soup posted:

fwiw this already exists in a similar form thats utilized on electric warehousing carts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wEUYN2mYxs&t=154s

(should be timestamped to 2m34s)

The big difference was that the brake function was set up just like it's in standard brake pedals, you could use the full force of your leg to press it. For accelerator you would twist you ankle.

MrLogan
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about Derek Carr's stolen MVP awards, those dastardly refs, and, oh yeah, having the absolute worst fucking gimmick in The Football Funhouse.
Get rid of pedals and just have a hand controlled throttle.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

MrLogan posted:

Get rid of pedals and just have a mouth controlled throttle.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Internal eye tracking cameras to determine steering, smiling makes you accelerate with a wider mouth making the car faster, frowning brakes.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Speed controlled by a straw you manipulate with your mouth, braking controlled by an air bladder in your butt.

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


freelop posted:

Internal eye tracking cameras to determine steering, smiling makes you accelerate with a wider mouth making the car faster, frowning brakes.

Get fired through the windshield if you sneeze.

Rhyno posted:

Speed controlled by a straw you manipulate with your mouth, braking controlled by an air bladder in your butt.

Apart from the butt thing, that's how some quadriplegic's chairs work. They're called sip and puff. They've built cars with them.

Disclaimer: not terrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyexjfEwp4k

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