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bull3964 posted:On no, another moving part in a vehicle that has literally thousands. Jesus. I shudder to think how much the ones in my CX30 are. They turn with the steering wheel, which is cool as hell, and I can also hear what sounds like fans inside the housings. I hope they last a long time, they're very nice but F paying four figgies for what used to be a $30 sealed beam (old man, cloud, etc.)
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BloodBag posted:Jesus. I shudder to think how much the ones in my CX30 are. They turn with the steering wheel, which is cool as hell, and I can also hear what sounds like fans inside the housings. I hope they last a long time, they're very nice but F paying four figgies for what used to be a $30 sealed beam (old man, cloud, etc.) I imagine a height-adjusting light does an average of much less than one adjustment per nighttime trip, while a headlight that moves an element might move many times (tens, hundreds?) in one nighttime trip. I don't see why an automaker would choose moving elements if there is any chance that the need for light can be met by turning different LEDs on and off. Turning lights on and off is also faster for whatever that is worth.
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There might be a chance for Chinese carmakers to enter the market once the cheapest car GM makes is a $47k Silverado LT.
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PBCrunch posted:Or $10 for a replacement halogen bulb.
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bull3964 posted:Good news, once widespread electrification happens, the reduction in maintenance and other moving parts will still allow it to be a net gain.
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The thing about using tons of small LEDs like Audi's matrix LEDs means that the optics are more complex too and the whole assembly needs auto-leveling anyways since the only way all this adaptive stuff works is if all the relative positions of everything is known. Two projectors in each lens with a few degrees of movement in all 4 directions has the ability to do a basic version of this easily. The high beams can pivot out a few degrees when approaching a car from the back to create a blank spot so as not to blind them and the driver's side high beam can dip and even turn off so as not to blind oncoming traffic. There are just so many moving bits in a car that can lead to a terminal outcome that I just can't see headlights being a huge problem here. We have piezoelectric misters spraying explosion juice into a detonation chamber hundreds of times a second. Hell, you have your wipers that need to work for tons of duty cycles. Windows. Gauges (those are all driven by tiny motors if you don't have a digital display.)
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I wonder how long those LEDs are going to last. They're driving them pretty hard so I wouldn't be surprised if all these fancy headlights look like the chessboard in 6-7 yearsCharles posted:Have you tried swapping out for a fresh pair of bulbs? I got some Osram clones (they stopped making them) and they work so much better than the long life bulbs the car came with, without any blue coating or gimmicks like that. I don't really know how bulbs in the EU market are though, besides the fact I ordered the Osram clones I could try that, I actually bought a set a while ago when I thought a bulb died, but it turned out to be the connector. Also have a set of AliExpress LED bulbs but they don't seem to be any better. Throatwarbler posted:There might be a chance for Chinese carmakers to enter the market once the cheapest car GM makes is a $47k Silverado LT.
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Come to think of it, I bet a small servo motor would last a lot longer than the garbage LED drivers these days. LEDs have a stupid long service life, but I see so many flickering or dead LEDs on cars these days because the stepdown/driver died.
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mobby_6kl posted:I could try that, I actually bought a set a while ago when I thought a bulb died, but it turned out to be the connector. Also have a set of AliExpress LED bulbs but they don't seem to be any better. There are no LED replacements out there that are better than halogen yet, only worse.
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Laser is already a thing and will probably win longevity wise because you only have one (or 3 for BMW) of those instead of dozens of LEDs.
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My 2015 M3 has the adaptive LED's. I'm not sure if they were available on the F30 before that? You can code them for the fancy european anti-dazzle stuff. It's supposed to be pretty cool but not perfect by any means. I actually specifically looked for a car with them because they look way better than the projectors and they're good headlights too.
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KillHour posted:Laser is already a thing and will probably win longevity wise because you only have one (or 3 for BMW) of those instead of dozens of LEDs. Yeah I love the new BMW Laser lights they're fantastic and a whole lot better of an idea than the LED projectors on Benz that could be coded to behave like a movie projector if you so desired.
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I was reading through the final ruling for adaptive headlights and it says the US decided to develop its own standards for testing. There were concerns from manufacturers that custom hardware would be required to meet the US standards so they decided to model the standards after the SAE standard. However, it’s not identical to the SAE standard. I think this would mean that the adaptive headlights on vehicles sold here would have to be tested by the NHTSA before being allowed so I don’t think that current adaptive headlights could just be enabled due to this ruling.
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I really hate the artificial market barriers. Does it really benefit domestic makers anymore when they all produce worldwide?
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Given the propensity for massive corruption and regulatory capture among European regulators I appreciate another regulator existing to keep the carmakers honest. Remember when some European carmaker was caught falsifying their emissions test data?
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Throatwarbler posted:Given the propensity for massive corruption and regulatory capture among European regulators I appreciate another regulator existing to keep the carmakers honest. Remember when some European carmaker was caught falsifying their emissions test data? Ahh yes, US regulators of course are famed for their independence and lack of corruption and regulatory capture. Weren't those companies also lying to US regulators to dodge US tests? Doing the exact same thing US truck manufacturers were caught doing about a decade earlier?
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Keyser_Soze posted:the C8 Corvette interior is so annoying with the dumb "WALL" how are you supposed to get freaky in that thing? The button wall is the 1963 split-window spine of Corvettes. Highly controversial then, highly valuable to collectors now.
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I'm 9 and this is cool
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Charles posted:I'm 9 and this is cool Same. It's very Batmobile.
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It follows Corvette's theme of utterly despising the passenger.
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Dear valued customer; Your order status has been updated to HAHAHA go gently caress yourself. Thank you for choosing Ford Motors!
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Fuel prices in New Zealand have gone incredibly bonkers recently. It's always been pretty pricey, but I just filled up recently and noticed 98 octane (equivalent to 93 in the USA) $3.20 NZD/litre, or the equivalent of $8.10 US/gallon. I've been considering replacing this car as I've had it for nearly 10 years now and it's due for some more expensive mechanical failures soon, I want something fun and now looking at fuel prices I'm more heavily weighting fuel economy, but drat all of the EV's or hybrids available here are either miserable bland SUV/CUV things or extremely expensive, like close to $200k NZD. We're a two-car household with our second being a van that we drive our bikes around with and sleep in while on holidays, so I don't really need long range for something that would 99% be short trips, but I do want it to be fun or interesting in some way if I can help it. I'd be equally happy to go for something extremely small and cheap if it was fun/interesting/cool in some way but that doesn't even seem to exist on the market here.
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Blackhawk posted:the equivalent of $8.10 US/gallon 
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I'm super confused, how is Biden making gas prices in NZ go bonkers!?! /sarcasm
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bull3964 posted:I'm super confused, how is Biden making gas prices in NZ go bonkers!?! /sarcasm Why do you think there are all those photos of Obama on "vacation" after he "left office"?
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Blackhawk posted:…the equivalent of $8.10 US/gallon. I’d consider either selling the spouse/partner/children or harnessing them to a wagon, dealers choice.
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THANKS When I filled up yesterday 95 RON (89 AKI) was 7.73 USD per gallon eqv here in Sweden.
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MrYenko posted:I’d consider either selling the spouse/partner/children or harnessing them to a wagon, dealers choice. Make them run on a wheel to power the car.
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Price of fuel has me wanting to sell the evo pretty badly. It's definitely fun to drive but the second the turbo is on I can hear it deleting money from my bank account
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Sorry Im late to the party talking about the C&D Lightning Lap stuff, but I still get it in print form like an old man and just got around to reading it. Couple things that stood out: I saw the new Golf R beat the old Golf R. Neat. But that whole section about having to hold the steering wheel weird just sounds insane, no thank you. I was actually really surprised to turn a few more pages in and see that the Civic Type R still worked the new Golf R by 4 seconds. Ouch. I dont want to discuss the tires being the only reason either. VW could put it on pilot sports if they wanted to, they didnt. So Heavier yes, but more horsepower and AWD. Also $300 more. I thought it would have done better personally. And then I just saw this: https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a39111399/vw-golf-r-shoppers-stick-with-the-gti/ "Actually, go buy a Hyundai instead. Or a Honda." Ouch
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Nidhg00670000 posted:THANKS Now imagine $6.5 but the average income is half lol. I almost never make long trips because really difficult to justify driving very far when I can fly to anywhere in Europe for 15 bucks.
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Yeah when you picture that $8.10 USD/gallon, also remember that the median household income here is ~$37,600 USD and new cars are like twice the price they are in the US. So we get the expensive petrol prices of Europe without the high wages, bugger-all public transport and expensive (NZ new) cars.
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Blackhawk posted:Yeah when you picture that $8.10 USD/gallon, also remember that the median household income here is ~$37,600 USD and new cars are like twice the price they are in the US. So we get the expensive petrol prices of Europe without the high wages, bugger-all public transport and expensive (NZ new) cars. So it’s like Florida.
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MrYenko posted:So it’s like Florida. Fewer chuds? So I guess we have that going for us.
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My driving has dropped to ABOUT 3500 miles a year at this point, so economy isn't really a major consideration in anything I drive anymore.
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Blackhawk posted:Fuel prices in New Zealand have gone incredibly bonkers recently. It's always been pretty pricey, but I just filled up recently and noticed 98 octane (equivalent to 93 in the USA) $3.20 NZD/litre, or the equivalent of $8.10 US/gallon. I've been considering replacing this car as I've had it for nearly 10 years now and it's due for some more expensive mechanical failures soon, I want something fun and now looking at fuel prices I'm more heavily weighting fuel economy, but drat all of the EV's or hybrids available here are either miserable bland SUV/CUV things or extremely expensive, like close to $200k NZD. 98 is 2.88 in Lower Hutt and that's bad enough. That's Gull too so has some ethanol in it.
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Blackhawk posted:, but drat all of the EV's or hybrids available here are either miserable bland SUV/CUV things or extremely expensive, like close to $200k NZD. A new model 3 is under NZ$60k factoring in the tax credit I think, my family has been looking at them. With fuel prices like that it starts to make sense. Although your electricity prices are high too.. You guys get a lot of ex-Japan leafs as well which would be a great option for commuting. sanchez fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Feb 19, 2022 |
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Blackhawk posted:Yeah when you picture that $8.10 USD/gallon, also remember that the median household income here is ~$37,600 USD and new cars are like twice the price they are in the US. So we get the expensive petrol prices of Europe without the high wages, bugger-all public transport and expensive (NZ new) cars. Base Corolla hatch US: US$20,195 / NZ$31,200 Base Corolla hatch NZ: US$20,300 / NZ$30,290 Specs seem identical, NZ has better warranty (3yr/36,000m vs 5yr/150,000km) NZ price includes GST and on-road costs (registration, plates, WoF). US price doesn't include sales tax or on road costs, which is another US$2200 for California as an example. Yeah we get screwed in lots of ways, and with cars sometimes we do, especially if you want something dumb like an American truck (which needs $50k in RHD conversion), but "twice the price" is a bit much. Edit: Blackhawk posted:but drat all of the EV's or hybrids available here are either miserable bland SUV/CUV things or extremely expensive, like close to $200k NZD. That's EV's everywhere dude. What global models are you missing for affordable and exciting? As noted, a Tesla 3 starts pretty reasonably, cheaper than a tricked out Ranger and there's thousands of them clogging the streets. (Quite literally in Wellington's case right now lol) BuckyDoneGun fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 19, 2022 |
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