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Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Kaiser Mazoku posted:

Being angry is easy and feels good. Being correct is hard and takes time and effort. You'd think people would have learned after Vinesauce Vinny and Game Grumps Dan but I guess not.
Why are you using one incident where there was a guy who wasn't a predator and one where the guy was, as your evidence for accusations being wrong?

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fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Terrible Opinions posted:

Why are you using one incident where there was a guy who wasn't a predator and one where the guy was, as your evidence for accusations being wrong?

because they secretly love abuse and youre the one who finally figured them out

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
why phrase that in the most aggressive and worst faith way possible when the concept of expecting everyone to have an up to date encyclopedic knowledge of z list celebrity scandals is unreasonable

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

Terrible Opinions posted:

Why are you using one incident where there was a guy who wasn't a predator and one where the guy was, as your evidence for accusations being wrong?

sorry, i asked too much

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



no more questions.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Just checking to see if we were to see the return of extreme hair splitting over age of consent laws.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once

Terrible Opinions posted:

Just checking to see if we were to see the return of extreme hair splitting over age of consent laws.

what thread do you think youre in. the fight youre looking for is in the comments section on a local news website

e: fr though why would you default to assuming thats what they secretly meant

Dire Lemming
Jan 19, 2016
If you don't coddle Nazis flat Earthers then you're literally as bad as them.

fun hater posted:

what thread do you think youre in. the fight youre looking for is in the comments section on a local news website

e: fr though why would you default to assuming thats what they secretly meant

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

Terrible Opinions posted:

Just checking to see if we were to see the return of extreme hair splitting over age of consent laws.

i'm sure there are many crypto enthusiast and libertarian circles who would be all too eager to discuss this subject matter with you

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Annointed posted:

I am glad Kyle Brows Held High posted more stuff again. I hope Lindsay and her ex staff do well for themselves.

i dont want to watch any more of his stuff after he started spiralling into an existential crisis about his life in hour two of his three hour starship troopers video

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Farm Frenzy posted:

i dont want to watch any more of his stuff after he started spiralling into an existential crisis about his life in hour two of his three hour starship troopers video

I can understand that. I did watch his League of Extraordinary Gentleman video and that hasn't seemed to go into life harming depression.

The Bee
Nov 25, 2012

Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!
I thought the Game Grumps guy was a sleaze who really shouldn't be getting into it with his fans, but not a predator. Just a standard-grade celeb creep.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

The Bee posted:

I thought the Game Grumps guy was a sleaze who really shouldn't be getting into it with his fans, but not a predator. Just a standard-grade celeb creep.

That's pretty much what it panned out to be. The problem was that initially, the story of it broke on a reddit that was overwhelmingly dedicated to being insane stalkers and weirdos about the grumps in general, basically game grumps kiwifarms, so a whole lot of them raced to push things out as patchworked together maliciously as possible. Dan's gross because he was using his role as a big, loved creator to also get with fans, but none of them were underage or pressed or anything, he was just yeah, a standard kind of creep abusing his place of power for hookups with fans and ghosting them after. Obviously "They were all of age" isn't a defense of him or his actions, but more condemnation for the freaks that were trying to whip up bullshit about the whole thing because they're still mad that Jon isn't on the show and saying slurs anymore.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Twincityhacker posted:

I don't know about spiteful, but having more people than you can comprehend yell at you for being racist is a hell of a hell of thing.

Especially since the apology never ranged as far as the orginal tweet.

https://hard-drive.net/has-cancel-culture-gone-too-far-lindsay-ellis-has-decided-not-to-make-videos-anymore-on-her-own-accord/

I just now remembered that I meant to actually post the article. Maybe I have bad reading comprehension but it didn't seem nice to me!

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

The 7th Guest posted:

what happened to lindsay ellis fuckin sucked

What really grinds my gears about this, and other similar things is that a fair chunk of it was people outside of the ethnicity doing performative outrage on our behalf. Like, literally gently caress all the way off, we don't need you assholes to get angry for us. It feels like there's an implication that they want to be the SPESHARU WAITO JEEZASU who'll get angry on our behalf, as if us yellows are a bunch of simpletons who are too stupid to know when we're being insulted or pandered to.

jackofarcades
Sep 2, 2011

Okay, I'll admit it took me a bit to get into it... But I think I kinda love this!! I'm Spider-Man!! I'm actually Spider-Man!! HA!
Man, the geek remix thing loving sucks. I found them when I was looking for an RE7 LP way back when, and stuck around because they do a bunch of games in my wheelhouse like Life is Strange and gay visual novels (but I repeat myself)

Twincityhacker
Feb 18, 2011

RareAcumen posted:

https://hard-drive.net/has-cancel-culture-gone-too-far-lindsay-ellis-has-decided-not-to-make-videos-anymore-on-her-own-accord/

I just now remembered that I meant to actually post the article. Maybe I have bad reading comprehension but it didn't seem nice to me!



WOW. I wasn't sure about the headline, but that article sure is gross.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

RareAcumen posted:

https://hard-drive.net/has-cancel-culture-gone-too-far-lindsay-ellis-has-decided-not-to-make-videos-anymore-on-her-own-accord/

I just now remembered that I meant to actually post the article. Maybe I have bad reading comprehension but it didn't seem nice to me!

Ohhhhh the "Anita Sarkeesian Criticizes Gay Porn for Lack of Female Representation" guy, gosh what a comedy genius at work here.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

edogawa rando posted:

What really grinds my gears about this, and other similar things is that a fair chunk of it was people outside of the ethnicity doing performative outrage on our behalf. Like, literally gently caress all the way off, we don't need you assholes to get angry for us. It feels like there's an implication that they want to be the SPESHARU WAITO JEEZASU who'll get angry on our behalf, as if us yellows are a bunch of simpletons who are too stupid to know when we're being insulted or pandered to.

Somebody commented at the time since a lot of what people were yelling at Lindsay was "LISTEN TO VOICES" they pointed out that some of the represented folks were either agreeing with her or saying "Yeah, I could see that" and asked the question 'so which ones do you listen to?'

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Nuns with Guns posted:

Ohhhhh the "Anita Sarkeesian Criticizes Gay Porn for Lack of Female Representation" guy, gosh what a comedy genius at work here.

Sounds like a rare miss from the Bee.

Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007

muscles like this! posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3zamnyCVP0
Someone I've seen on Tik Tok and wasn't aware he had a Youtube but B. Dylan Hollis does a thing where he makes old rear end baking recipes. This video is him trying a couple of different peanut butter bread recipes. If you've seen his Tik Toks he's more subdued in this and much more wordy.

As a European this man's accent is scary and disorienting, like time-traveling to an alternate-universe 1900 America

Good video though

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


edogawa rando posted:

What really grinds my gears about this, and other similar things is that a fair chunk of it was people outside of the ethnicity doing performative outrage on our behalf. Like, literally gently caress all the way off, we don't need you assholes to get angry for us. It feels like there's an implication that they want to be the SPESHARU WAITO JEEZASU who'll get angry on our behalf, as if us yellows are a bunch of simpletons who are too stupid to know when we're being insulted or pandered to.

I think it's less people actively wanting to white knight (although that is certainly an element) and more that there's a lot of messaging about "Hey, if you're privileged, help people who aren't, and step up to other privileged people when they pull poo poo." People really do want to help, they're just not taking a step back and analyzing whether this is, indeed, a fight that they need to fight.

Doesn't help that right now there's a whole lot of injustice that they can't directly affect, so the brain is just constantly screaming that everything is bad, and then here comes a convenient avatar of everything bad that they CAN fight, so that avatar gets it full blast.

I tend to assume that a lot of these people also have been on the receiving end of similar harassment, and instead of coming to the conclusion of "Wow, this loving sucks, don't wanna do that," they go, "Ah, I see, this is how the world works." Which is sadly very common and why the cycle of abuse exists.

fun hater posted:

oh poo poo thank you! ill check these out tonight

One more, because he's really cool: Healthy Gamer is a psychiatrist does a combo of interviews with various people and answering posts asking for advice about mental health issues. Interestingly, he's incorporated a lot of yogic tradition into his philosophy, but makes sure to stick mostly to evidence-based stuff. Also, as the name implies, it's very heavily slanted toward the gaming community, but is accessible to most people and isn't nearly as toxic as that would normally imply. Highly recommend.
https://www.youtube.com/c/HealthyGamerGG

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Insurrectionist posted:

As a European this man's accent is scary and disorienting, like time-traveling to an alternate-universe 1900 America

Good video though
Looks like he's a Bermudan doing an American accent.

fun hater
May 24, 2009

its a neat trick, but you can only do it once
[whispers] i think he is gay

rox
Sep 7, 2016

new episode of 'children of doom' from errant signal! a beefy hour long look at 'goldeneye 007'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AEvEIYzMbU

CBD Corndog
Jun 21, 2009



Insurrectionist posted:

As a European this man's accent is scary and disorienting, like time-traveling to an alternate-universe 1900 America

Good video though

He's just MCU Steve Rogers but got into TikTok instead of joining the army.

Ash Crimson
Apr 4, 2010

Alaois posted:

ya twitter is an intense cesspool of freaks with inferiority complexes

So which one of them are you

jackofarcades
Sep 2, 2011

Okay, I'll admit it took me a bit to get into it... But I think I kinda love this!! I'm Spider-Man!! I'm actually Spider-Man!! HA!

Puppy Time posted:

I think it's less people actively wanting to white knight (although that is certainly an element) and more that there's a lot of messaging about "Hey, if you're privileged, help people who aren't, and step up to other privileged people when they pull poo poo." People really do want to help, they're just not taking a step back and analyzing whether this is, indeed, a fight that they need to fight.

Well, also, sometimes you follow a specific set of minority voices without realizing that those voices are unrepresentative. For example, I follow a lot of Latinx people on twitter, and I'm using that term deliberately because they use that term. Yet, it's pretty unpopular with the greater community. If I used the term, I might be accused of trying to police a foreign language/culture or other such things, even if I'm just using a term my timeline uses.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


jackofarcades posted:

Well, also, sometimes you follow a specific set of minority voices without realizing that those voices are unrepresentative. For example, I follow a lot of Latinx people on twitter, and I'm using that term deliberately because they use that term. Yet, it's pretty unpopular with the greater community. If I used the term, I might be accused of trying to police a foreign language/culture or other such things, even if I'm just using a term my timeline uses.

Also true. The ability to get echo chambered into some bizarre alternate reality is the source of so many problems these days.

Solitair
Feb 18, 2014

TODAY'S GONNA BE A GOOD MOTHERFUCKIN' DAY!!!
https://twitter.com/PatriciaTaxxon/status/1503831882051604488

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

i don't think its being buried by the algorithm, its always on my front page for some reason, have they considered that nobody gives a gently caress about marble blast

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I didn’t think anyone gave a crap about those weird Dan Schneider shows but I was proven very wrong lol

Turns out people care about things

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

CelticPredator posted:

I didn’t think anyone gave a crap about those weird Dan Schneider shows but I was proven very wrong lol

Turns out people care about things

there are far more people in their mid 20s to early 30s who remember watching those shows on nickelodeon than people who vaguely remember a game that came pre-installed on their imac or played a demo of on xbox live arcade

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Alaois posted:

have they considered that nobody gives a gently caress about marble blast
no, it's the algorithm who is wrong.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

like i even bought the full version of marble blast ultra on the xbox 360 and played it quite a bit and i cannot imagine watching a video essay about it

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011
I can understand the bitterness, but I have no idea how you think you're gonna drop a 1 hour+ video about a pretty obscure old game and have it be an obvious runaway success. I suppose when 8 hours of "and in this episode of a Disney channel sitcop, this happens" somehow does millions you're right to think your examination of a fun weird game should do better, but it's Youtube. The only logic here is the inscrutable one of the machines.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

I've never played Marble Blast but I enjoyed the video

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



i'd watch an hour long video on marble madness

Kaiser Mazoku
Mar 24, 2011

Didn't you see it!? Couldn't you see my "spirit"!?

This person realizes that there are a million other videos that also go unnoticed right

Like, it's 0.001% of videos that get "mega boosted"

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KingKalamari
Aug 24, 2007

Fuzzy dice, bongos in the back
My ship of love is ready to attack
It looks like it's performing a bit sluggishly even relative to her other video essays, so I can't say I blame her for being a bit frustrated. Speaking as a content creator, it can be really frustrating to spend a lot of time and effort on something that's fairly important to you only for it to underperform. I don't think her expectation was for the video to be a runaway mega-hit, just for its performance improves relative to previous content - At least that's what I think most people who have been posting some form of content to the internet hope for from a new piece.

It's a good video, though I wish it had touched on Venineth since it's a "roll marble through tricky course" game I've been playing that one a lot lately and there's...stuff to discuss about it.

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