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Does anyone know if Lost Ark has the same type of team doing bug fixes for it, or did they retain the original development team? Reason I'm asking is daylight savings broke a bunch of the quests since a lot of quests are "start at X time". They patched it twice and last I checked (which was > 24 hours ago) it was still broken and I'm beginning to get a little suspect. I can see how it could be a complicated fix because some players use it and some don't, and those players are playing on the same servers, but then again, I don't know anything about game development. Lost Ark is proving to be the MMO that gets my interest, but I also have a strong affinity for the Diablo format. But I'm concerned with it in Amazon's hands. Sniped, so added my favorite post from the last page: Discospawn posted:The New World Reddit has continued to get more bleak over the past few days, to the point that it almost seems a little maudlin when they act as though New World's failure has been uniquely devastating. Perhaps the craziest thing about New World's downfall is that it hasn't been much of an outlier compared to what established, AAA studios did with the past holiday release cycle.
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AFAIK SmileGate is pretty much doing all the backend work like that and Amazon handles the customer stuff / a few other odds and ends.
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Update from not playing New World for two weeks: Life seems to be different. The days are brighter and warmer, the nights seem shorter. I know what you’re thinking: that’s just spring you moron, but how do you explain spring starting as soon as I quit NW? Exactly. Your logic is flawed. Life is good.
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Discospawn posted:All of this is to say, it's easy to imagine an internal presentation at AGS where some managers are trying to pitch the idea to Bezos that the game's floundering is proof that Amazon can make AAA video games that succeed just as well as established industry leaders. lmao the state of AAA publishing right now. Discospawn, you're a hero. Please never stop posting.
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Apparently they added action or skill queuing so you push a button to do said skill and then get cc'ed so you cant and maybe now you want to do something else since the situations changed but nope you're still doing the original thing you tried to do lmaoo
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Mar 18, 2022 17:10
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lol if it blocks someone from alt-f4ing out of that poo poo pile of a game
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Mar 18, 2022 17:53
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There's a greataxe ability Maestorm that can be upgraded to absorb enemy projectiles. It's bugged and also absorbs friendly projectiles including heals. It's been in the game for months but doesn't show up in lists of known issues. Never seen that before. https://forums.newworld.com/t/the-maelstrom-upgrade-for-ga-absorb-also-eats-allied-projectiles-as-well-as-enemies/676473
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I can’t wait to see what new and exciting ways the game is broken after they attempt to hastily add in a way to evaluate the origin of a projectile.
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Player casts a projectile spell and immediately logs off. The projectile now has no master and is immortal, flying forever through stone and flesh, a new god born into the world.
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kedo posted:Player casts a projectile spell and immediately logs off. The projectile now has no master and is immortal, flying forever through stone and flesh, a new god born into the world. Knowing the game and object oriented programimg, I bet a projectile is an instance of a character, and inherited the full default Stat block. Best bug ever if slow moving projectiles just start randomly traveling the world killing people who get to close
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Mar 18, 2022 21:15
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Can you swim yet?
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MarcusSA posted:Can you swim yet? To add more comedy, Star Citizen, which is supposedly running on the same engine, recently showcased "rivers" and it doesn't have swimming either.
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Mar 19, 2022 01:15
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Apparently swimming tech wasn’t part of the lumberyard fork they bought. Shame.
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You know it would have been easy just to keep all the water on the continent knee level or lower and just kill you when you fall into deep water with a shark animation or something. Everyone would have been like "lol no swimming" but lots of games do that and nobody would have thought twice about it, but no, instead you walk across the bottom of the ocean in the most half-assed "we did the best we could" way imaginable.
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Ah, I remember when I went to run Dynasty Shipyard, accidentally vaulted over a railing, fell in the water, couldn't slow walk my way back to shore, died, and had to run all the loving way across the zone to get back to the dungeon entrance. It was dumb of me, but New World sure is a game
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FrostyPox posted:Ah, I remember when I went to run Dynasty Shipyard, accidentally vaulted over a railing, fell in the water, couldn't slow walk my way back to shore, died, and had to run all the loving way across the zone to get back to the dungeon entrance. I almost did this; got back above water with less than a second to spare. The rapier attack animation gives no fucks about your desire to not leap off an edge, and in one dungeon fighting a boss it definitely went right off to death.
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I cracked up laughing the first time I fell in water and my dude just scuttled along like fuckin Zoidberg or something
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MarcusSA posted:Apparently swimming tech wasn’t part of the lumberyard fork they bought. They probably bought pre-made scripts for the every part of the game from database to animation to UI and have nobody on staff who can code anything from scratch. Swimming shall forever be lostech to the AAA script kiddy developer otherwise known as Amazon Games Studios.
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I'm still in awe of the action queue they "implemented".
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Didn't wow have a queue ages ago? Swimming? Good performance and all that? How hard can it be for others to reimplement similar features competently?
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Mar 20, 2022 09:14
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All the good coders were lost in the inner sphere succession wars.
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Ihmemies posted:Didn't wow have a queue ages ago? Swimming? Good performance and all that? Wow came with swimming right at launch, it sure as hell didn't come with the other two.
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Ihmemies posted:Didn't wow have a queue ages ago? Swimming? Good performance and all that? RagnarokZ posted:Wow came with swimming right at launch, it sure as hell didn't come with the other two. "Ages ago" is still probably about right, there was an addon through....BC? WotLK? that would put your latency on your cast bar so that you could send a combination macro of "/cancel cast, /cast new spell" to cancel the spell cast on your local client and start the next cast, but the cancel+new cast would hit the server after the previous spell had already been completed. The queueing being implemented in Cata would mean it was "only" a solved thing 12 years ago.
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It's amazing, the only other MMO I've seen that does the "walk along the bottom of the body of water until you die" is loving Horizons, AKA, Istaria, which is a preposterously bad game (that, in its concept stages, was absurdly ambitious to the point where it was obvious the devs had no idea what they were doing). Every other MMO has swimming or just doesn't allow you to enter water. EDIT: Every other MMO that has water, obviously.
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DancingShade posted:All the good coders were lost in the inner sphere succession wars. Well they may still fire the lowest preforming 10% each year. Only how the gently caress do you judge a good vs bad dev? Lines of code? Story points implemented? My bet is that they fired so many coders each remaining top coder created a fiefdom to keep there own job safe, and that you could never put 2 top class coders together on a project since they would be ranked against each other. This means you get running or swimming, but not both. Since the guy who knows how to add running wont work with the swimmer, and no one else knows how to judo the code together.
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Ihmemies posted:Didn't wow have a queue ages ago? Swimming? Good performance and all that? Nobody is allowed to learn from others and everybody must constantly reinvent the wheel.
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Some of y’all have never played open world pvp with swimming and it shows. The pvp is better for not having another mechanic that always gets abused in pvp.
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cosmicjim posted:Some of y’all have never played open world pvp with swimming and it shows. The pvp is better for not having another mechanic that always gets abused in pvp. Then don't build your world with all that dang water in some zones. This is what happens when devs don't talk to level design.
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You can tell the world was designed with water as barriers…..
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So we've got this game engine that doesn't allow swimming, but let's set the game on an island. Surrounded by water.
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new world is only vaguely an open world pvp game, and judging by their road map they very much wish to move even further away from whatever this game could have been at one point
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kedo posted:So we've got this game engine that doesn't allow swimming, but let's set the game on an island. Surrounded by water. Did you want to swim to another game world?
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Mar 21, 2022 18:50
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Constantly.
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cosmicjim posted:Did you want to swim to another game world? If it's on the table, yes.
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cosmicjim posted:Did you want to swim to another game world? I'll just walk across the ocean floor to another game world. Lumberyard is technically a descendant of ye olde cryengine. The very first cryengine game that ever released (Far Cry 1) shipped with swimming. First person swimming. An old (broken, poo poo) mmo by the name of Archeage that ran on I think cryengine 2.0 also had swimming. Plus naval combat, diving, etc. Just to underline how manifestly incompetent AGS actually is. They simply don't have coders who can actually do what their qualifications claim they know how to do. Oh your game engine in a box doesn't come with [minor common feature] that's okay, just add it in yourself. Oh you don't know how to actually do that? Oh. Ohhh. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 21, 2022 |
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DancingShade posted:I'll just walk across the ocean floor to another game world. This is why star citizen had some moment of doing things. Because all the cry engine coders got swooped up into a new office so roberts had someone to work on the engine. And as such, I suspect that in a way, amazon is at the mercy of roberts for getting engine level coding done for them due to a lack of engineers for it. This is the comedic part of cry engine really. Unlike unreal or unity, there really wasn't much people poking at cryengine that wasn't first party. So of course, you become at the mercy of that company to implement whatever you need it to allow. This is in contrast to unreal engine where it would be easy to build a studio with people that know how to work with that engine.
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They can’t figure out swimming in star Citizen either tbf
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It’s all made stranger by the fact that New World had working swimming in early alphas.
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Chakron posted:It’s all made stranger by the fact that New World had working swimming in early alphas. Um, what?
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There was probably a bug that let you swim out of the water and into the air and start flying around, so they removed the whole feature.
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