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Washed my car for the first time since December and in less than 48 hours the rain dumps a load of Saharan sand over it.   Typical.
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dissss posted:I thought those used the Commodore engine (which would have a timing chain rather than a belt) but I guess that didn't come until later. The early Rodeos still used the Isuzu V6, later on they put in the Alloytrash V6.
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Mar 17, 2022 00:07
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You Am I posted:The early Rodeos still used the Isuzu V6, later on they put in the Alloytrash V6. We told the story of the stretched belt to a friend last night, a man who restores and flips cars as his (lucrative) hobby and who I trust knows more than I do about cars. He had an incredulous look on his face and told us that while timing chains can skip links (as happened to my 1990 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.6L V6 in about 2003 in Vancouver), timing belts cannot stretch. I dunno, but my understanding is that chains are basically lifespan-of-the-engine parts while timing belts must be replaced every 100 000 km (or as needed) - I had the timing belt done on my 1988 Honda Prelude a few months after I bought it rather than risk the catastrophe of an interference engine interfering. Also, the seller's mechanic (the shop space next door to the tiny dealership) said that whoever had done the belt last time (at 210 000km, according to records) had not re-assembled everything correctly, which would presumably also lead to problems regardless of the physical condition of the belt itself. In any case, fuel efficiency is about what this vehicle should deliver driving errands around town with 170 kg of tail lift hanging off the back end. And a steel tray, I'm not sure how much that weighs compared to the pickup bed or an aluminium tray but it might account for a litre or two per tank. Speaking of the tank, I think the gauge is mis-calibrated. Everything I've read says the fuel tank holds 76 L, but a few days ago I filled it shortly after the fill-me-now light came on with the needle pointing at E. I squeezed about 45L in though the pump kept shutting off due to the awkward geometry of the filler neck under the tray, and I'm not certain that the fuel that splashed out at the end was because the tank was completely full or because of something I was doing with the nozzle in that confined space. The needle went to just under F. I'm not yet willing to test it, driving it to fuel starvation (with a jerry can in the back). Has anyone else had a mis-calibrated fuel gauge that leaves half the fuel in the tank under the E? Could it be something else, like the sensor inside the tank, or the computer being dumb? Humphreys posted:With that lift, be prepared to be on speed-dial for everyone wanting to move poo poo. You'd think so, but so far nobody we've talked to has expressed any real interest. We'd be happy to help out - my wife and I think of ourselves as generous, helpful people - and we've been telling lots of people about our new ute, but no takers. 
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ExecuDork posted:He had an incredulous look on his face and told us that while timing chains can skip links (as happened to my 1990 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.6L V6 in about 2003 in Vancouver), timing belts cannot stretch. they absolutely can. go compare the slop in a 200k mile timing chain versus a brand new one. its going to be less than one link's worth of distance, but it might be enough to lose some performance, or even give enough slack to allow for jumping time where there wouldn't be before. it does take a long time to stretch, though ExecuDork posted:Has anyone else had a mis-calibrated fuel gauge that leaves half the fuel in the tank under the E? Could it be something else, like the sensor inside the tank, or the computer being dumb? ive experienced the opposite, where the gauge would read "F" for about half the tank, then decrease fairly linearly for the last half. much less annoying than what you're potentially seeing, but i would not say it's impossible. i would guess it's most likely the sender, or failing that, the wiring, causing the issue. but idk. i never fixed mine
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Mar 21, 2022 02:27
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That guy is full of poo poo. Even my dumb rear end knows timing belts can stretch.
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The 3.5L Isuzu motor would be the 6VE1 but that doesn't seem like it went into the D-Max -- Wikipedia could be wrong, but the person might have mistaken the N American Rodeo which is a different vehicle. How about some underhood shots? edit: I think Wikipedia is wrong. Other sources make it seem like it was used up to 2004. A 2004 would be direct injection too. Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Mar 21, 2022 |
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all chains will "stretch", bike chains, timing chains, doesn't matter. Well, they technically don't stretch, the wear on the rollers causes the distance between links to increase, but the end result is the same.
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Mar 21, 2022 14:11
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Raluek posted:ive experienced the opposite, where the gauge would read "F" for about half the tank, then decrease fairly linearly for the last half. 4th Gen Camaro driver spotted
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Mar 21, 2022 15:15
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Just-In-Timeberlake posted:all chains will "stretch", bike chains, timing chains, doesn't matter. Yep. Here are some chains from a k24, the one that came off after my car jumped timing on the left, then two junkyard ones.   The one on the right has been in my car for 50k now. 
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Mar 21, 2022 16:33
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What is the mechanism for stretch? I doubt there's enough force at any time to go pass the 2% elasticity, so it has to be the pins and pinholes right? Pins get a little thinner and the pinholes wallow out a bit? Small amounts multiplied by quantities.
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Mar 21, 2022 16:57
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Drove 6 hours to Edinburgh, stayed in a Premier Inn on an industrial estate and had a lovely meal. A worthwhile sacrifice of a Sunday to collect and drive home in this.  Though anybody buying a V8 at these petrol prices has, at best, a tenuous relationship with their sanity.
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Mar 21, 2022 17:01
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StormDrain posted:What is the mechanism for stretch? I doubt there's enough force at any time to go pass the 2% elasticity, so it has to be the pins and pinholes right? Pins get a little thinner and the pinholes wallow out a bit? Small amounts multiplied by quantities. In a chain, yes. It’s wear on the individual components adding up to a longer chain.
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StormDrain posted:What is the mechanism for stretch? I doubt there's enough force at any time to go pass the 2% elasticity, so it has to be the pins and pinholes right? Pins get a little thinner and the pinholes wallow out a bit? Small amounts multiplied by quantities. Exactly, follow the links down in my picture of their full length, they fall incrementally out of phase as you go down.
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Mar 21, 2022 18:23
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glyph posted:Exactly, follow the links down in my picture of their full length, they fall incrementally out of phase as you go down. Does the stretched chain feel looser or not?
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Mar 21, 2022 18:36
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I replaced the chain on my K24 with unknown miles a couple of weeks ago, didn't compare length but the TDC cam alignment mark positions changed noticeably.
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StormDrain posted:Does the stretched chain feel looser or not? Kind of? There's a little cover you can pull to get a sense of how extended the tensioner is. Mine was maxed out with that old chain.
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Mar 21, 2022 19:00
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Theophany posted:Drove 6 hours to Edinburgh, stayed in a Premier Inn on an industrial estate and had a lovely meal. A worthwhile sacrifice of a Sunday to collect and drive home in this. Excellent! The name of the forum isn’t Automotive Sanity, is it?
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Mar 21, 2022 19:59
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Imperador do Brasil posted:Excellent! The name of the forum isn’t Automotive Sanity, is it? You've convinced me friend, I shall run for office based on these credentials of sound mind 
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Yeah, I'm not surprised at all to hear stories about chains and belts stretching, wearing in various ways, and otherwise being subjected to entropy. My friend knows stuff, but he doesn't necessarily know that. The Jaaaaaag he flipped was lovely.Raluek posted:ive experienced the opposite, where the gauge would read "F" for about half the tank, then decrease fairly linearly for the last half. much less annoying than what you're potentially seeing, but i would not say it's impossible. i would guess it's most likely the sender, or failing that, the wiring, causing the issue. but idk. i never fixed mine This does feel like a problem that I can happily ignore in my well-travelled ute. If there's ever a problem that requires paying attention to the fuel tank I'll try to remember to use the opportunity to have a look at those parts, but until then we'll just get complacent about that fill-me-now light.  Charles posted:The 3.5L Isuzu motor would be the 6VE1 but that doesn't seem like it went into the D-Max -- Wikipedia could be wrong, but the person might have mistaken the N American Rodeo which is a different vehicle. How about some underhood shots? I'll get some sexy underbonnet shots and we can work this out.
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MrYenko posted:4th Gen Camaro driver spotted I never actually put a tank's worth of miles on either of the ones my family owned (94 and 01 Z28s) but this still awoke some deeply-forgotten memories.
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Theophany posted:Drove 6 hours to Edinburgh, stayed in a Premier Inn on an industrial estate and had a lovely meal. A worthwhile sacrifice of a Sunday to collect and drive home in this. phwoar, very nice.
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MrYenko posted:4th Gen Camaro driver spotted right make and generation, wrong model it was a fourth gen impala ('65) ExecuDork posted:This does feel like a problem that I can happily ignore in my well-travelled ute. If there's ever a problem that requires paying attention to the fuel tank I'll try to remember to use the opportunity to have a look at those parts, but until then we'll just get complacent about that fill-me-now light. do double check in a safe way though (run well past E with a full gas can in the trunk); sometimes the published specs are incomplete. maybe there's a different gas tank specified for a single year, or a half year split, or some states get one tank and some states get another. never know til you check!
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Raluek posted:do double check in a safe way though (run well past E with a full gas can in the trunk); sometimes the published specs are incomplete. maybe there's a different gas tank specified for a single year, or a half year split, or some states get one tank and some states get another. never know til you check! Yeah, I'll find a time to do that. Head out with a jerry can in the tray and find out how far I can make it. I'm stupidly fond of silly little adventures like that, my wife will roll her eyes but I expect to enjoy it. I got some shots of the engine. A parts-store website told me that it was indeed the 6VE1 REPCO rego vehicle identification posted:HOLDEN RODEO RA 3.5L 6VE1 DOHC-PB 24v MPFI V6 147kW 5sp Man 2dr Cab Chassis & Pickup RWD Have some pics!  Engine by ExecuDork, on Flickr Engine by ExecuDork, on Flickr Engine by ExecuDork, on Flickr
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ExecuDork posted:Yeah, I'll find a time to do that. Head out with a jerry can in the tray and find out how far I can make it. I'm stupidly fond of silly little adventures like that, my wife will roll her eyes but I expect to enjoy it. In the last couple pics you can see the fuel rails, looks like pfi to me. I don't see a high pressure pump, etc. Suburban Dad fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Mar 22, 2022 |
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2004 seems like it would be somewhat early for direct injection to be used on a naturally aspirated engine, but at any rate the biggest tell is the crossover hose on the fuel rail being... a hose (with regular old clamps to boot). Every DI setup I've ever seen uses only tubing and/or machined fuel rails for everything after the high pressure pump. And yes, those injectors are definitely aimed at the back of the intake port/valve, not directly into the chamber.
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Theophany posted:Drove 6 hours to Edinburgh, stayed in a Premier Inn on an industrial estate and had a lovely meal. A worthwhile sacrifice of a Sunday to collect and drive home in this. Hell yeah- that’s an awesome ride!
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After a 5? Month wait, my ct4 blackwing has finally arrived at the dealership. Looking forward to picking it up tomorrow  Probably overpaid for a ceramic coat but was amazed to find a dealer offering msrp in 2022
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gently caress. Yeah.
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I am glad that Caddy went all in on being the car for villains after so long chasing a literal dying market.
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That Caddy looks so drat sweet. Probably the best looking sedan out right now.
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Thom ZombieForm posted:After a 5? Month wait, my ct4 blackwing has finally arrived at the dealership. Looking forward to picking it up tomorrow V cool. Post the interior. Also, I do not envy cleaning those wheels.
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Thom ZombieForm posted:After a 5? Month wait, my ct4 blackwing has finally arrived at the dealership. Looking forward to picking it up tomorrow Hell yeah. MetaJew posted:V cool. Post the interior. As long as the wheels were ceramic coated as well (most certainly should be) then cleaning them is easy peasy.
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Thom ZombieForm posted:After a 5? Month wait, my ct4 blackwing has finally arrived at the dealership. Looking forward to picking it up tomorrow :drool:
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Thom ZombieForm posted:After a 5? Month wait, my ct4 blackwing has finally arrived at the dealership. Looking forward to picking it up tomorrow Can you go park it next to the bagged Deville(? I think) so we can compare and contrast?
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That's amazing you can buy a new, American, performance sedan with 6MT. Swan song.
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StormDrain posted:Can you go park it next to the bagged Deville(? I think) so we can compare and contrast?
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dema posted:That's amazing you can buy a new, American, performance sedan with 6MT. Thinking on it, is this the absolute last one? I was thinking the Charger came in a manual but google says no. Plus the FoST and FiST are dead 
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