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Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



:rolleyes: As if they'd gently caress in anything other than missionary

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jmnmu
Nov 21, 2004
f
Here is a compilation of hard hitting tankie journalists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaFxcul-c9c

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Mariupol still somehow not fully conquered. It's honestly astounding
https://twitter.com/OstapYarysh/status/1511785104321953793?s=20&t=dB8T6_GmdF0xrpC4oeQYqQ

Hasselblad
Dec 13, 2017

My dumbass opinions are only outweighed by my racism.

No one forgot that I exist to defend violent cops, champion chaining down immigrants, and have trash opinions on cooking.

Automatic Slim posted:

If you're going to hate on someone do it on the merits of character and actions. She may be as bad as her daddy or not. Anything else is gross.

Agreed. Unless we are talking about the Kim Jungs.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Cthulu Carl posted:

Can I still say Putin looks like the type of guy who gets kicked out of grocery stores for loving the cold cuts?

I'll allow it.

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021


Urban combat is a nightmare and from what I've heard, the Russian army doesn't really train their soldiers for it.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

fighting in cities and in ruins is loving hard for the attacker. again this city was supposed to fall day 1 and its clear russia is probably just killing everyone they find in the city, combatant or other wise and daddy putin needs a victory so into the chipper the marines and VDV go.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

jmnmu posted:

Here is a compilation of hard hitting tankie journalists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaFxcul-c9c

are these actually real people, who tf watches political streamers smfh. poo poo looks like a tim and eric sketch

pro starcraft loser
Jan 23, 2006

Stand back, this could get messy.

Generic question, do other countries treat marines like the US does? The US uses them as tip of the spear troops/more training/etc.

Do other countries do that or are their marines just 'guys with guns on a boat'?

jmnmu
Nov 21, 2004
f

Herstory Begins Now posted:

are these actually real people, who tf watches political streamers smfh. poo poo looks like a tim and eric sketch

It is real and they have thousands of followers who don't think this is dumb

edit: Jimmy Dore show has over a million followers and it serves as a major platform for the gray zone's bullshit. then there's like 20+ ANTI IMPERIALIST PROGRESSIVE LEFTIST!!!! streamers that just spew the same garbage and reinforce the dumb message while thousands of people watch them

jmnmu fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Apr 6, 2022

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

fighting in cities and in ruins is loving hard for the attacker. again this city was supposed to fall day 1 and its clear russia is probably just killing everyone they find in the city, combatant or other wise and daddy putin needs a victory so into the chipper the marines and VDV go.

"The onw in the chipper goes brrrrt! The one outside follows! When the one in the chipper is sprayed out as soup-like homogenate, the one outside GETS. IN. THE. CHIPPER!"

KitConstantine
Jan 11, 2013

Russia just loves threatening consequences. Time to threaten countries in response to...

Potentially (probably) being removed from the human rights council? :irony:
https://twitter.com/EerikNKross/status/1511795736370946060?s=20&t=dB8T6_GmdF0xrpC4oeQYqQ
Article: https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/crime-pmn/russia-threatens-states-with-consequences-over-u-n-vote-on-human-rights-council

Apparently Russia will get mad at you if you vote to remove them or even abstain from voting on their removal at all. Normal poo poo.

Thank god someone stated the obvious:

quote:

“Russia blatantly and openly threatening countries who vote to suspend them from the U.N. Human Rights Council is only further evidence that Russia needs to be suspended immediately from the U.N. Human Rights Council,” Olivia Dalton, spokesperson for the U.S. mission to the United Nations, said on Wednesday.

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

chitoryu12 posted:

The part specifically being referred to is the gas tube. When an AK fires, some of the expanding propellant gas is tapped off to that tube above the barrel, which pushes on a gas piston that in turn pushes the bolt back to automatically cycle the gun. If that tube gets clogged with residue, it'll start failing to cycle properly. Russia issues ammo with corrosive primers that's cheaper to make but will cause further corrosive residue to build up.

A normal AK allows you to remove the entire gas tube simply by throwing a lever with a wrench and pulling it off. The AK-12 welds the rear of the gas tube to the trunnion, possibly for lower cost and to fit the new handguard better, so they added a plug at the end of the tube to let you clean it. But the shape of the tube doesn't allow a cleaning brush to go all the way through, so you can't actually clean it now. As the gun is fired, it'll build up residue that can't be cleaned out effectively and prevents you from actually scrubbing the whole thing shiny new.

That explanation for the AK 12 is kind of indicative of the entire Russian war effort, isn't it? Badly thought through, failing as time goes on due to cutting corners.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

Urban combat is a nightmare and from what I've heard, the Russian army doesn't really train their soldiers for it.

If you turn all of the buildings to ash then there is no "urban." :eng101:

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

Pennywise the Frown posted:

If you turn all of the buildings to ash then there is no "urban." :eng101:

No joke, that was the US attitude to urban warfare for decades until they figured out that fires don't really spread that easily. It was pretty ghoulish.

Liquid Chicken
Jan 25, 2005

GOOP
Cue "The Lonely Man" song....

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

B-Rock452 posted:

It's odd, the idea that the AR platform is unreliable is so prevalent and I always heard how the AK is a magical gun that will always fire even if it's covered in mud and God knows what else. Then I build an AR and I think I cleaned it once after a thousand rounds and literally never had an issue. And the AR beats the AK in just about every type of mud test.

If the control group already has a high failure rate there isn't much the test group can be worse at. The mud might even act as lubrication.

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

this isn't loss :crossarms:

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Dapper_Swindler posted:

fighting in cities and in ruins is loving hard for the attacker. again this city was supposed to fall day 1 and its clear russia is probably just killing everyone they find in the city, combatant or other wise and daddy putin needs a victory so into the chipper the marines and VDV go.

They're still making steady progress in taking the city, unfortunately. It's just vastly more costly in every conceivable way than was expected.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

pro starcraft loser posted:

Generic question, do other countries treat marines like the US does? The US uses them as tip of the spear troops/more training/etc.

Do other countries do that or are their marines just 'guys with guns on a boat'?

For genuine special ops, not war crimes and meat grinders. :britain:

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

evilmiera posted:

They're still making steady progress in taking the city, unfortunately. It's just vastly more costly in every conceivable way than was expected.

oh they will take the city. but russia will have lost tons of men and armor and etc in a battle needed to expand east or Odessa for something that they should have just been able to take in a day in a blitzkrieg in initial planning. russia bleeding more men in mauripol is taking men away from/keep them from doing other bad poo poo in other places.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

pro starcraft loser posted:

Generic question, do other countries treat marines like the US does? The US uses them as tip of the spear troops/more training/etc.

Do other countries do that or are their marines just 'guys with guns on a boat'?

I believe the USMC is rather unique in terms of its actual size compared to most/any other nation that has a defined marine force, though Russia might be relatively close. For places like the UK and the like, their marines mostly trace their lineage back to Age of Sail navies where Marines would be present for ship boarding actions (Better for trained soldiers to board and occasionally conduct landing parties than pull sailors off other important duties). The US didn't really have much of a navy until that time was mostly over, though the Marines did get a few actions in (Including 'The Shores of Tripoli' when dealing with the Barbary States back when the US was a wee baby nation), so they really saw a greater use as actual soldiers, albeit with a bit of a naval specialization. That increased in importance with some of the wars that the US got up to and the increase in overseas holdings and combined with lots of PR they're pretty much a military inside of a military.

For Russia their Naval Infantry got pretty sizable during WWII and got a pretty good reputation then. They existed for a while before that but not to any real strength.

We won't talk about Japan's Naval Infantry history

Taerkar fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Apr 6, 2022

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

pro starcraft loser posted:

Generic question, do other countries treat marines like the US does? The US uses them as tip of the spear troops/more training/etc.

Do other countries do that or are their marines just 'guys with guns on a boat'?

Only the US has the surplus in crayons to fuel marines to their full potential.

Sprechensiesexy
Dec 26, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Avynte posted:

this isn't loss :crossarms:

No it's win.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Liquid Chicken posted:

Cue "The Lonely Man" song....



Step tractor I'm stuck.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Coquito Ergo Sum posted:

No joke, that was the US attitude to urban warfare for decades until they figured out that fires don't really spread that easily. It was pretty ghoulish.

Have any sources? I enjoy reading about bureaucratic stupidity.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Cthulu Carl posted:

Only the US has the surplus in crayons to fuel marines to their full potential.

:hmmyes:

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Cartoon Man posted:

Another doggo in Bucha reunited with owner:

https://i.imgur.com/B9bmueB.mp4

Thread moves too fast, but whatevers..

This moved me... my mates dogs goes nuts when she see's me so cant imagine how that dog feels at seeing 'the boss' again.

Dog's are like kids really, a pain in the arse but you love them anyways.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Liquid Chicken posted:

Cue "The Lonely Man" song....



Needs a bit more negative space imo

Coquito Ergo Sum
Feb 9, 2021

Flowers for QAnon posted:

Have any sources? I enjoy reading about bureaucratic stupidity.

Currently trying to flip through which old issue of ARMOR I think began the chain of bibliography checking that made me find it. No promises. Most of the issue was that Infantry field manuals only cited urban combat in WW2, still talking about Shermans and Siegfried defenses well into the '80s. When they would say modern things, they would say "avoid cities at all costs, let the air handle them." It wasn't until the 1980s that we really started trying to develop urban combat doctrines.

Coquito Ergo Sum fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 6, 2022

Marcade
Jun 11, 2006


Who are you to glizzy gobble El Vago's marshmussy?

Cthulu Carl posted:

Can I still say Putin looks like the type of guy who gets kicked out of grocery stores for loving the cold cuts?

I resent this. I have known the sweet embrace of forbidden grocery meats and I look nothing like Putin.

pro starcraft loser
Jan 23, 2006

Stand back, this could get messy.

mobby_6kl posted:

Needs a bit more negative space imo



After the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked back at the tracks in the sand.
I noticed that at many times along the path of war crimes,
especially at the very lowest and saddest times,
there was only one set of tracks.

This really troubled me, so I asked commander about it.
"Commander, you said once I decided to follow you,
You'd support me all the way.
But I noticed that during the saddest and most troublesome times of my life,
there was only one set of tracks.
I don't understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me."

He whispered, "why the gently caress would I bother sending in ground troops or support vehicles to protect armor?"

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

mobby_6kl posted:

Needs a bit more negative space imo



Needs some Werner Herzog narration

busalover
Sep 12, 2020

Cthulu Carl posted:

Needs some Werner Herzog narration

The tank does not know where it is going. It will die. It is insane.

Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

KitConstantine posted:

I'm sure there is much more about this globally impactful war that can be discussed than some woman's face.

Should we excuse small atrocities simply because larger ones are being committed??

I should stop I should stop.

She’s as much a victim of Putin as anyone after all. He wouldn’t even allow her mother the right of gene expression lest he look weak.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

Cthulu Carl posted:

Needs some Werner Herzog narration

Tank Man (2005)

Werner Herzog: And what haunts me, is that in all the faces of all the tanks that Treadwell ever filmed, I discover no kinship, no understanding, no mercy. I see only the overwhelming indifference of nature. To me, there is no such thing as a secret world of the tanks. And this blank stare speaks only of a half-bored interest in food. But for Timothy Treadwell, this tank was a friend, a savior.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

mobby_6kl posted:

Needs a bit more negative space imo



Movie Myth: The horse died in this scene.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Cthulu Carl posted:

Needs some Werner Herzog narration

Oh god you're right. I have to go make dinner now but just play this and mentally replace penguin with tank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_9VRWn8Y&t=62s

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Liquid Chicken posted:

Cue "The Lonely Man" song....



I didn't even notice the line of footprints walking away from it at first

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