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Alchenar posted:It taking three episodes to start the Star Trekking and then the fourth episode being 'oh wait I know this is an emergency but I need to take a detour' was a strong sign that they didn't know where they were going. HD DAD posted:Yeah, season two at least flows logically, if albeit a bit slowly. To me, and I say this in my most Tim Robinson on a Ghost Tour voice, and I do not mean this as a troll, or to ruin anyone's thread, or to make a mod mad: S1 was just as 'logical' as S2, but actually less rudder-less. At least in S1 I can buy the need to do a lot of work to explain who the double-Tal-Shiar are or lay the groundwork for their anti-robot crusade/monster-outside-the-galaxy stuff, or even try to explain all the weird 'federation in decline' worldbuilding. All of that sucked, but it needed some time to actually demonstrate to the audience. I don't think I can make that claim on S2. Did anyone need a lot to understand that earth in 2024 sucks? Did we need +50 minutes to get across the idea that the present was changed and now the world is evil? Like- stripped down to bare-bones plot, if you went straight from 'Stargazer explodes' to 'Picard meets not-Laris in 2024', what needs to be accounted for?
I'm glad everyone liked seeing Gul Dukat's skull, and really enjoyed Rios being epic-gritty on an ICE agent, but even all that as flavor is a pretty paltry offering for 3 episodes. I'd suggest more paltry than Romulan samurai or Hugh working as a borg-deprogrammer.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Oh yeah and I only watched Picard S1 like three weeks ago. I love Elnor and I just want him to get more hugs. Whatever happens in the rest of the season, I need him to come back and just hug more people.
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RaspberrySea posted:I love Elnor and I just want him to get more hugs. Whatever happens in the rest of the season, I need him to come back and just hug more people. The fact that they shoved him in a plot locker rather than let him get involved in the 2024 bullshit is the utter height of cowardice.
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i forgot in season so can someone remind me if they ever just fuckin run around nude and you see like one of their big ol fuckin hairy nuts?
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Mr. Stewart you're needed on set.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Mr. Stewart you're needed on set. BREAKING NEWS: STAR TREK PICARD SEASON 4 ANNOUNCED
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He's seen it all. He's seen everything.
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Eimi posted:Because he's emblematic about the shows love of hyper violence because he loving loves decapitating people. The reset at the start of S2 I was totally onboard with, but by ep2 it's back to throat slitting. He decapitated like one dude!!! He didn't love it! He asked him to choose life!
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nine-gear crow posted:The fact that they shoved him in a plot locker rather than let him get involved in the 2024 bullshit is the utter height of cowardice. Innocent alien murder boy with absolute honesty is literally the perfect Star Trek character to go walking around 2024 causing chaos and hilarity. Outright loving cowardice to kill him before they even got to the box factory.
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Khanstant posted:in 20 years do you think they'll do a Burnham? She'll also go back in time to like a 2040 that's probably objectively better than real-world 2040 and the message will be we all just need to trust science a little to bring us together At least one cast member will be murdered on set by someone who's a member of a cult that worships Dave Portnoy. The government will throw a parade for them.
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I'm getting chills thinking of the part of the trailer when old lady burnham starts quoting her signature lewis carroll lines
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Khanstant posted:in 20 years do you think they'll do a Burnham? I sincerely hope we'll have broken this embarrassing cultural nostalgia addiction by then, but the Earth of 2042 will probably be even more hosed up than the Earth of 2022 so we'll be looking back even harder at these halcyon days with perverse longing. Assuming any of us are still alive to see it, I mean.
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In 20 years we'll be reenacting episodes of Star Trek from memory on top of flooded apartment buildings for an audience of people cooking iguanas on sticks over burning trash barrels If we do a good enough job maybe they'll save us an iguana, otherwise it's back in the ocean for us
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nine-gear crow posted:The fact that they shoved him in a plot locker rather than let him get involved in the 2024 bullshit is the utter height of cowardice. Cowardice doesn't seem like the right word. I think they just have too many cast members and too few things for them to do. Jurati needs to be alone with the queen for her plot to work and Rios needs to be alone for his plot to work and Elnor wouldn't really add anything following Raffia & Seven around. You gotta make some cuts somewhere.
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Lister posted:Cowardice doesn't seem like the right word. I think they just have too many cast members and too few things for them to do. Jurati needs to be alone with the queen for her plot to work and Rios needs to be alone for his plot to work and Elnor wouldn't really add anything following Raffia & Seven around. You gotta make some cuts somewhere. Maybe they could drop the old bald guy, he hasn't done terribly much in the plot yet.
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Ironic that Picard himself is the worst part of the show. I just want more adventures of Captain Rios and crew getting into wacky adventures.
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HD DAD posted:Ironic that Picard himself is the worst part of the show. I just want more adventures of Captain Rios and crew getting into wacky adventures. He's not the worst part of the show, he's just on a completely different TV show than literally the entire rest of the cast and only intersects with them at random, plot-mandated intervals. His stuff is fine, it just seems lacking in comparison to the wacky bullshit Rios, Seven, Raffi and Agnes are getting up to without adult supervision because they're doing poo poo like loving the cops up and hitting on hot back alley doctors and doing weird kinky mind sex with the Borg Queen. nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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Two completely unrelated complaints: 1) If you're going to have Seven show up at a police station and talk with the desk officer, have her say "I'll be back". I don't care if she actually is. Just let Jeri Ryan have that moment. gently caress off, writers. 2) I am getting more and more annoyed by the choice to have the skulls of Dukat, Martok and (hinted at) Zek, characters Picard never met. It should have been Duras and Bok. Also Hugh. And...if you really wanted to piss off timeline people, Sela :trollface:
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HD DAD posted:Ironic that Picard himself is the worst part of the show. I just want more adventures of Captain Rios and crew getting into wacky adventures. His scenes with Q were dynamite, more of that please
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HD DAD posted:Ironic that Picard himself is the worst part of the show. I just want more adventures of Captain Rios and crew getting into wacky adventures. I think the ironic part is that a show called Picard doesn't seem to want to be about him very often. He's the best part of the show when it does actually want to be about Jean-Luc Picard. This happened in the first episodes of both seasons before they start pivoting more and more to everybody else.
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Lister posted:I think the ironic part is that a show called Picard doesn't seem to want to be about him very often. He's the best part of the show when it does actually want to be about Jean-Luc Picard. This happened in the first episodes of both seasons before they start pivoting more and more to everybody else. Really, IMO, one of the worst choices was calling the show "Picard." It puts too many expectations on him to be the very center of the show rather than part of a new ensemble.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:2) I am getting more and more annoyed by the choice to have the skulls of Dukat, Martok and (hinted at) Zek, characters Picard never met. It should have been Duras and Bok. Also Hugh. And...if you really wanted to piss off timeline people, Sela :trollface: I think they confirmed on Twitter that the Ferengi skull was Zek's. (You could probably read the Borg skull as Hugh's.)
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I'm enthused to see how much Annie Wersching cranks up the smugness factor tonight as Cylon Head Borg. She's really put her own spin on the character and is one of the bright spots of the season thus far, I think.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:2) I am getting more and more annoyed by the choice to have the skulls of Dukat, Martok and (hinted at) Zek, characters Picard never met. It should have been Duras and Bok. Also Hugh. And...if you really wanted to piss off timeline people, Sela :trollface: I am pretty sure the point was they were the heads of state of their various empires I'm more curious how they beat the Borg. Even if they went full Military the Borg destroyed 41 ships with 1 cube and kept going, only losing because of weird Locutus poo poo. It seems like more ships would just mean more destruction Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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I deeply hate how the episode has ground to an absolute halt for this bizarre Jurati singing distraction scene.
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Raffi posted:How much worse could it possibly get? I don't know, Raffi. I just don't know. So the Renee Picard stuff is done now? Like, future saved? Now we're going into a detour into Picard's robot mind to cure his never-before mentioned mommy issues while Queen Jurati tries to take over the world by, I don't know, winning "The Voice?" What the hell does Eugenics girl have to do with anything? Q? Anyone? What's the game here? Does this even count as spoilers if as far as I can tell there's nothing to even spoil? What the hell is going on?
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I’m not really even sure what to say about this episode  - The shuttle Renee and Picard talk about is from the Enterprise intro montage - Spiner always was more interesting when playing a villain - The Renee Picard stuff is clearly not done yet, Rios mentions they still need to keep her safe and presumably having a comforting old man she just met run down in front of her has shaken her up again - I know they had to contrive a reason to have Spiner on the show again, but I kinda wish they hadn’t since this subplot with his daughter is almost certainly going to muddle the overall plot and not be resolved satisfactorily. It’s just too much to handle when you’ve already got the Q and time travel stuff going on. - The Head Borg Queen stuff was alright until it suddenly very much wasn’t. - Rios being enamored with real cigars and matches was great Just give me the loving Captain Rios show already you cowards
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Big Mean Jerk posted:
God, this one hurts so much. There really isn't enough plot left in this season to sustain 4 more episodes. I'm now officially torn between "Just skip this poo poo and give me Season 3 already" and "Oh god, how are they going to screw up Season 3 now?" At least when Season 1 was wildly careening out of control at this point in its run, I never felt like it was overstaying its welcome because I was waiting to see what insane direction they went next as they made poo poo up on the fly. It was really fun to see what new rabbit the show would pull out of its hat, and whether that rabbit would bite the magician, or poo poo all over the stage, or just turn out to be a dead rabbit because it somehow asphyxiated inside the hat. This time around, we have a clear finish line we're heading towards, one that we've known about since the end of episode 1, so every little delay and baby step taken towards that endgame is just frustrating as hell. E: Ah, I found the root of the problem https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1511765640197017601 Matalas delegated the back half of Season 2 to Akiva Goldsman while he focused all his energy on writing Season 3. So yeah, the back half of this season's probably gonna be a total write off, but hey, at least Season 3 might be good most of the way through...? nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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Wee Bairns posted:Spiner is shining in his performances. I hope gets a good death scene this season because his plotline, especially after that final scene of this episode really deserves to end in Soong's daughter tearfully killing his Rusty Venture science-perverting rear end.
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I'm kinda thinking that the real time disruption isn't the Europa mission, and that it's been a bit of a red herring. I think Soong or something related to him, is the true point of divergence and we are in the slowwwwww lead up to that.
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Wee Bairns posted:I'm kinda thinking that the real time disruption isn't the Europa mission, and that it's been a bit of a red herring. I think Soong or something related to him, is the true point of divergence and we are in the slowwwwww lead up to that. Yeah, that big gently caress off holo statue of Soong outside of Star Corps HQ constantly screaming "gently caress ALIENS, HUMAN SUPREMACY!" definitely suggests he's the at the nexus of whatever t-bones time and it's probably got gently caress all to do with killing Rene Picard. I don't really see how a guy becomes a revered founding father of a human supremacist space empire just from killing one rando astronaut. There are more shoes to drop yet... hopefully they're worth the wait, but I dunno.
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I laughed... ...when Jurati began singing a period-appropriate song. ...when the band knew what song was being sung and decided to play along. ...when the venue organizers decided an impromptu song in the middle of a power outage was worth putting a spotlight on. ...when they brought Elnor's actor in for another 1 second shot with no lines. I wonder if his availability was poo poo or this was actually planned. *looks up IMDB* Wow they planned this. ...when Picard pushed Picard out of the way of the car. An expertly trained 20-something astronaut apparently has worse senses and reflexes than an 80-something grandpa. ...when Rafi was worried about timeline shenanigans and being safe... after two episodes of being reckless and careless. ...when not-Laris knew what a Mind Meld was. Call me out for being a terrible television show watcher but I don't recall her ever divulging knowledge of what, exactly, is outside of Earth, let alone knowledge of taboo Vulcan practices. ...when Kore knew how to use the Internet and type real fast but, for some reason, never Googled her own incredibly important father. ...when we saw the best photoshops Paramount could pay for.  ...when the news got a photograph of Soong at an exclusive meeting where no photographers were present. ...when Kore's actress realized she had to, for the third time in two seasons, play a character questioning her own existence. This show's hilarious. Gonz posted:I'm enthused to see how much Annie Wersching cranks up the smugness factor tonight as Cylon Head Borg. She's really put her own spin on the character and is one of the bright spots of the season thus far, I think. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Apr 7, 2022 |
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Also I found it oddly timely AND hilarious that Soong is a public cancelled billionaire rear end in a top hat who still manages to buy his way onto the board of a private space firm, and then immediately takes over and starts giving orders because he’s gently caress off rich.
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DaveKap posted:I laughed... When Picard started getting textedby Q and Tallinn used her phone to peek at the discussion, she muttered something and the closed captions confirmed it as "speaks Romulan". This was not long after Jean-Luc made the comment about how she can't be related to Laris because Laris was Romulan. You are a terrible television show watcher for not noticing the blink-and-miss line that you'd only even understand if you have the subtitles turned on. I'm glad I'm not the only one who laughed when our 90 year old hero got run over by some rear end in a top hat and went flying.
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