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Oyster posted:I have read all 9 books of The Expanse and it has a very satisfying ending but I've been avoiding the show because it might tarnish the books and the opinions in here are telling me that was a good move. I understand why they wouldn't want to put books 7-9 on TV though, it gets a bit abstract. It's fantastic. You should watch it.
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It's fine and you're not missing much.
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May 4, 2022 21:00
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May 4, 2022 21:02
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I like the expanse overall but I agree that season 6 was very weak. It doesn't end on a bad note, at least, as much as a bland one.
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May 4, 2022 21:08
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Eimi posted:I like the expanse overall but I agree that season 6 was very weak. It doesn't end on a bad note, at least, as much as a bland one. Same for book 6. 5 and 8 were my favorites, but 9 is very satisfying. Taear posted:What no the show is amazing and they re-do it to work with TV, it's not like...any other book to TV adaptation This is heartening at least. I watched the first ep and already didn't like who they cast for Naomi (she has no hair to hide behind! That's a defining trait early on!) or Avasarala (and how could they put her personality on TV) but after my partner and I catch up on Doctor Who (which has been a struggle, Chibnall sucks) I'll make a case for The Expanse. She's almost done with book 5 and didn't want to start the TV series before finishing the books, but 7-9 aren't going to be on TV anyway.
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i watched the first episode of the expanse and ive been meaning to give it another go but its so spooky and sad. its like yeah you know what, if humanity colonized space, it would be racist and people would die horribly all the time. but were not even gonna get to that point so im not all that jazzed about a sci fi show about how bad it would suck if we even managed to get there
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May 4, 2022 21:21
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Oyster posted:I watched the first ep and already didn't like who they cast for Naomi (she has no hair to hide behind! That's a defining trait early on!) or Avasarala (and how could they put her personality on TV) You definitely need to watch more of it. Shohreh Aghdashloo completely owns the role of Avasarala. Probably my favorite character on the show along with Amos (thanks to Wes Chatham).
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May 4, 2022 21:22
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Oyster posted:I have read all 9 books of The Expanse and it has a very satisfying ending but I've been avoiding the show because it might tarnish the books and the opinions in here are telling me that was a good move. I understand why they wouldn't want to put books 7-9 on TV though, it gets a bit abstract. The show is the best book adaptation I've ever seen and basically every change they make is for the better. Like, even Ashford in the show is a great character. The casting's all incredible too, with Drummer and Amos as the big standouts.
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May 4, 2022 21:27
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Grand Fromage posted:The show is the best book adaptation I've ever seen and basically every change they make is for the better. Like, even Ashford in the show is a great character. The casting's all incredible too, with Drummer and Amos as the big standouts. David Strathairn really sells that part so well too. One of the best performances for the entire series.
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May 4, 2022 21:29
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punishedkissinger posted:David Strathairn really sells that part so well too. One of the best performances for the entire series. He's such a zero terrible character in the book. Getting a second crack at some of that stuff was great. There are nitpicks I have with it but whatever. Nothing's perfect. It's very good though.
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May 4, 2022 21:31
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Screaming_Gremlin posted:You definitely need to watch more of it. Shohreh Aghdashloo completely owns the role of Avasarala. Probably my favorite character on the show along with Amos (thanks to Wes Chatham). The way she says swears is hilarious, in that husky breathy voice hhffUUckh you
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May 4, 2022 21:33
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I got the feeling he was going to be a one off character who ended up being too well-received to jettison.
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May 4, 2022 21:34
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This is the good poo poo. Just give me the most detailed ship and design porn possible and I'll be extremely happy.
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https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1521838805350682627?s=20&t=rc-8S_QjK6OhjHB7NXmTWg https://twitter.com/sepinwall/status/1521869504988520449?s=20&t=yQ_vhed4mmkcQEHtvH6U2w Sepinwall liked it.
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May 4, 2022 22:07
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Late to the chat, but that latest episode of Picard. Yeesh. I think that was the worst one yet, and that's saying something. One genuine surprise was transporting the Borg soldiers into a wall. Though it looked like they turned into stone. I would have expected that to be a lot more... Gory. Perhaps they rewrote their molecular structure in stone.
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May 4, 2022 22:42
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Isometric Bacon posted:Late to the chat, but that latest episode of Picard. Yeesh. I think that was the worst one yet, and that's saying something.
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May 4, 2022 22:44
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Ah, the Picard crypts
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In a good show there would be a payoff where they're all transported back to the future Chateau Picard and evil Brent Spiner is there and threatening to kill everyone as revenge and then robot Picard punches a wall, grabs an M4 and shoots him. e: maybe not a good show. a show that knew and accepted what it was
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JazzFlight posted:Also lol that apparently Picard grew up in a house that had skeletons poking out of the walls in the basement tunnels? I'm hoping that whatever timeline we're in is still the one which leads to the evil mirror confederation, because they've killed alot of people and pretty much violated all the rules of time travel at this point that would irreparably damage their future, unless they are going for a time is a closed loop thing - which Star Trek hasn't in the past. Of course to rectify this they'll have to pull something out of their rear end last minute to get Picard and crew back to their regular timeline, which will probably also undo everything else that happened this season, making it ultimately pointless. Also lol at the fact Picard had never explored the catacombs of his childhood home since being a child, despite TNG portraying him multiple times as a amatuer archeologist.
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So I've not read the thread yet and just caught up, but popping in to say that Picard is loving poo poo and one of the worst-written shows I have ever seen
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May 4, 2022 23:00
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Isometric Bacon posted:Also lol at the fact Picard had never explored the catacombs of his childhood home since being a child, despite TNG portraying him multiple times as a amatuer archeologist. There's a thousand ways to die down there! That oughta do it
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Senor Tron posted:https://twitter.com/FredBronson/status/1520895051475210240?t=2zfy9kD-EraPo3-B6imn0Q&s=19 Going back a couple of days, but god drat, that's a good response.
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Alan_Shore posted:So I've not read the thread yet and just caught up, but popping in to say that Picard is loving poo poo and one of the worst-written shows I have ever seen That reminds me. I would like to retract any and all earlier comments over the years about the ending of Lost. And BSG.
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Alan_Shore posted:So I've not read the thread yet and just caught up, but popping in to say that Picard is loving poo poo and one of the worst-written shows I have ever seen its true
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May 4, 2022 23:48
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The Expanse essentially follows in the footsteps of shows like Lost and Game of Thrones in that they all started extremely well but somewhere in the middle went off the rails and completely poo poo the bed. It’s not ever particularly bad, it’s still fine, but is extremely disappointing given what could have been. I don’t know how favorably it compares to the books - I enjoyed the first couple but never finished the third one.
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ozmunkeh posted:The Expanse essentially follows in the footsteps of shows like Lost and Game of Thrones in that they all started extremely well but somewhere in the middle went off the rails and completely poo poo the bed. It’s not ever particularly bad, it’s still fine, but is extremely disappointing given what could have been. I don’t know how favorably it compares to the books - I enjoyed the first couple but never finished the third one. I just can't at all agree The last series was a bit rushed and ends strangely (for one of the stories) but all the rest are great
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Taear posted:I just can't at all agree The 6th book is basically a transition between the 5th and last three, which are almost a self contained trilogy set in the universe with the same characters. It's kind of a weird place to stop, though it does tie up some loose ends from the 5th.
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I really wanted to like this season more. And it started promising. The scene earlier in the season between Jurati and the Borg Queen where they were fighting for control was loving great. But, like...nothing seems like it matters. They've gone back to the past to fix the future/present. Okay. So that means they're trying to keep the Europa mission on track? I guess? Because that's barely been a plot point, outside of going to a gala, which I'm barely going to count. The Dr. Soong stuff is barely connected, except Q found a way to manipulate him to attack Picard. In the same he could have, I don't know, found some money and paid someone, I guess? Because it's all been brute force attacks, I think. Other than that, it's been Picard's childhood issues (started interested, ended terribly, even if I LOVE seeing James Callis), border issues for a little while and then...nothing there, and then Borg Queen becoming a compassionate Borg Queen. And I guess that last one will end up being the take away from the season, unless next week really sticks the landing with Q, but he's barely done anything. I guess he's dying, for reasons that have yet to present themselves. But I guess that's why he changed the past, and hosed with all of humanity. Sorry, just caught up on the last 2 episodes last night, needed to rant. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 5, 2022 |
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Taear posted:I just can't at all agree Also disagree entirely. The show follows the books pretty closely and never goes bad. It's unfortunate it isn't a full adaptation, and I think some people who didn't read the books get extra frustrated since stuff from season 4 on is there to set up the final arc, so it appears to be pointless even though it very much is not. I get that, but like... literally everything in seasons 5 and 6 is directly connected to that final, unfilmed story so there's no real way to avoid it.
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Watching this and it's very cool but I can't help but wonder if the Stage 9 guy wouldn't have gotten C&Ded if these guys weren't doing basically the same thing but with the A
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Grand Fromage posted:Also disagree entirely. The show follows the books pretty closely and never goes bad. It's unfortunate it isn't a full adaptation, and I think some people who didn't read the books get extra frustrated since stuff from season 4 on is there to set up the final arc, so it appears to be pointless even though it very much is not. I get that, but like... literally everything in seasons 5 and 6 is directly connected to that final, unfilmed story so there's no real way to avoid it. They easily could've cut Laconia. It's the biggest mistake I saw from s6, a lot of time is spent on it and it goes nowhere and nothing relevant to the main plot ever happens.
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Big disagree but not going to have spoilyposting about a whole other show here among people who haven't seen it.
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Eimi posted:They easily could've cut Laconia. It's the biggest mistake I saw from s6, a lot of time is spent on it and it goes nowhere and nothing relevant to the main plot ever happens. Laconia is absolutely pivotal to the end of the books. That's probably a marker that the show holds too true to them, but also Grand Fromage posted:Big disagree but not going to have spoilyposting about a whole other show here among people who haven't seen it. This, for the books.
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Question that just occurred to me about Picard S2: how much time has passed since the Stargazer, from the viewpoint of the characters? Two days? Three? (Have any of them slept?)
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we can't know for sure, but it will either be the exact second picard blew up the ship or enough time for him to wake up in a bed wondering if it twere all a dream. e: sry i misread your question. yeah thats uh idk
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Eimi posted:They easily could've cut Laconia. It's the biggest mistake I saw from s6, a lot of time is spent on it and it goes nowhere and nothing relevant to the main plot ever happens. It's weird, that probably should have been a spin off animated series or something if only because of the shortened final season. But whatever, I liked it. It was the first sci fi series I've been jazzed to see the next ep in a real long time. Nothing's perfect, but it was so nice to feel like the people making it really cared about what they were putting on screen and (generally) upping their game with each season. Giving more and more screen time to Aghdashloo and Gee was greatly appreciated and even some of the weaker actors greatly improved over time - plus there were some stellar guest spots from the likes of Harris and Strathairn (  ).It's a good show.
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Powered Descent posted:Question that just occurred to me about Picard S2: how much time has passed since the Stargazer, from the viewpoint of the characters? Two days? Three? (Have any of them slept?) Jurati woke up on a couch in episode 3, so yes.
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Grand Fromage posted:Big disagree but not going to have spoilyposting about a whole other show here among people who haven't seen it. Oyster posted:Laconia is absolutely pivotal to the end of the books. That's probably a marker that the show holds too true to them, but also Sure, the Laconia stuff was important in setting up the end of the books' plotline, but the show ended before it got to any of that, so it all became pointless. Are they planning another series for all that or is it just over?
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A good poster posted:Sure, the Laconia stuff was important in setting up the end of the books' plotline, but the show ended before it got to any of that, so it all became pointless. Are they planning another series for all that or is it just over? That's it unfortunately (probably)
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A good poster posted:Sure, the Laconia stuff was important in setting up the end of the books' plotline, but the show ended before it got to any of that, so it all became pointless. Are they planning another series for all that or is it just over? The entire plot of seasons 5 and 6 (and Bobbie's in 4) are Laconia. It is impossible to cut out. They would like to make more but at the moment they aren't. The showrunner wanted to leave the story where it's supposed to be so they could pick up in the future in some form. TV, movies, a cartoon, whatever. The production company owns the show, so if someone came to them wanting to pay for it it they can go ahead.
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