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It's probably pretty different but it reminds me of Eaves NX-01 that Berman ordered scrapped and replaced with the Akira, since that was a smaller and flatter Connie
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SpartanIvy posted:TOS Sovereign Refit please now you're talking
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dr_rat posted:Seatbelts, bah it's the far future with far future technology, it's pretty obvious the seats should be velcro. And I mean you don't even have to show it. Just get the sound peeps to add a loud velcro tearing sound when ever anyone gets out of any seat. hahaha this is perfect. closest we'll get to people walking on the walls and ceilings. imo just a practical use of space with artificial gravity. granted most trek rooms dont have high ceilings but like, 12 foot tall hallway or room, might as well double up on the ceiling being another walkway. folks who are too tall will make eye contact as they move about making it easy to not butt heads
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the downside of the up-down hallways is people are constantly fighting the urge to spiderman-kiss eachother
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speaking of TOS redesigns I can't remember where I found this but this is a much nicer design for the USS Discovery
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Tiberius Christ posted:speaking of TOS redesigns I can't remember where I found this but this is a much nicer design for the USS Discovery How can it jump into hypershroom without a giant, circular speed hole in the saucer?
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tarlibone posted:How can it jump into hypershroom without a giant, circular speed hole in the saucer? Very well, thank you
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Tiberius Christ posted:speaking of TOS redesigns I can't remember where I found this but this is a much nicer design for the USS Discovery No thanks.
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Also just noticed its actually the uss dicovery 
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Tiberius Christ posted:Also just noticed its actually the uss dicovery Don't wanna get sued
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The Bloop posted:Don't wanna get sued You gotta cover your rear end twice when it comes to Star Trek IP, apparently.
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Tiberius Christ posted:speaking of TOS redesigns I can't remember where I found this but this is a much nicer design for the USS Discovery Literally any design is better than the one they went with in the show
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CLAM DOWN posted:Literally any design is better than the one they went with in the show Could have used the actual USS Constellation filming model from the 60's, the one with the hosed up nacelles that pointed in different directions after the Doomsday Machine chewed on it... and it would have been better than what they went with.
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honestly i like the discovery ship, as far as trek ships go, I don't think the detached nacelles are any more of a dumb idea than having two bigass jet engines sticking out the dingleberry of your flying saucer, but btw they're not jet engines and what they do is magic and arbitrary but don't you dare mess with em lol. The hole in saucer doesn't bug me because the space inside trek ships is madeup and fluid, and by disco's time the only reason ppl don't just site-to-site every single place is there's probably some societal pressure to get yours steps in everyday. The hole is also good because everyone wants a window office and now more folks can.   I think I know what y'all hate about it though and I think the hole in saucer and detached nacelles can be salvaged while making it into tos shape enough to pass muster. their fatal flaw is forgoing the big belly, and not putting the nacelles up and back. i've made a crude mockup and i think this is a rough guide on how to "fix" the ship without losing the two identifying parts 
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My problem with detached nacelles is that I just can’t believe that this wouldn’t immediately be a target for new weapons to be developed that could disrupt the magnets holding them in place (I think magnets was the explanation they offered?)
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Khanstant posted:i've made a crude mockup and i think this is a rough guide on how to "fix" the ship without losing the two identifying parts 
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Khanstant posted:honestly i like the discovery ship, as far as trek ships go, I don't think the detached nacelles are any more of a dumb idea than having two bigass jet engines sticking out the dingleberry of your flying saucer, but btw they're not jet engines and what they do is magic and arbitrary but don't you dare mess with em lol. The hole in saucer doesn't bug me because the space inside trek ships is madeup and fluid, and by disco's time the only reason ppl don't just site-to-site every single place is there's probably some societal pressure to get yours steps in everyday. The hole is also good because everyone wants a window office and now more folks can. sorry op it's ugly as poo poo
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well if ya don't like this one you don't like the tos enterprise
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holefoods posted:My problem with detached nacelles is that I just can’t believe that this wouldn’t immediately be a target for new weapons to be developed that could disrupt the magnets holding them in place (I think magnets was the explanation they offered?) The only difference between conventional nacelles and detached nacelles is that detached ones don't have a little ship crippling "shoot here" target that nobody ever actually shoots Every Star Trek battle against Starfleet should be enemies concentrating fire on the nacelles and the bridge, this isn't done because knowing the one weird trick to end all fights against Starfleet designs instantly isn't actually interesting or entertaining.
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Tiberius Christ posted:speaking of TOS redesigns I can't remember where I found this but this is a much nicer design for the USS Discovery Where do you fit the implausibly cavernous turbolift area??
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Seemlar posted:The only difference between conventional nacelles and detached nacelles is that detached ones don't have a little ship crippling "shoot here" target that nobody ever actually shoots That’s a good point. Honestly, I’d just love for someone to try to write a Discovery tech manual because it would be pretty funny for them to try to explain all of the bullshit they cooked up in a semi convincing way like the TNG manual.
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I don't have a hard time accepting detached nacelles, I just assume there are stronger forces and bonds in the world than metal alloys fused together in a big strip.
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holefoods posted:That’s a good point. Honestly, I’d just love for someone to try to write a Discovery tech manual because it would be pretty funny for them to try to explain all of the bullshit they cooked up in a semi convincing way like the TNG manual. "The flamethrowers (directly derived from similar units at the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular show at 21st-century Disney World) are placed at 30-degree angles around the entire circumference of the bridge. They are under computer control and powered by the main EPS grid."
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Mike the TV posted:Where do you fit the implausibly cavernous turbolift area?? Look it's easier just to tell you where the cavernous turbolift area isn't. dr_rat fucked around with this message at 06:37 on May 18, 2022 |
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Khanstant posted:i've made a crude mockup and i think this is a rough guide on how to "fix" the ship without losing the two identifying parts Oh good, we found our new gang tag
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Khanstant posted:honestly i like the discovery ship, as far as trek ships go, I don't think the detached nacelles are any more of a dumb idea than having two bigass jet engines sticking out the dingleberry of your flying saucer, but btw they're not jet engines and what they do is magic and arbitrary but don't you dare mess with em lol. The hole in saucer doesn't bug me because the space inside trek ships is madeup and fluid, and by disco's time the only reason ppl don't just site-to-site every single place is there's probably some societal pressure to get yours steps in everyday. The hole is also good because everyone wants a window office and now more folks can. My beef with Starship Discoball is that it looks more at home in Tron than it does in Trek.
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Powered Descent posted:"The flamethrowers (directly derived from similar units at the Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular show at 21st-century Disney World) are placed at 30-degree angles around the entire circumference of the bridge. They are under computer control and powered by the main EPS grid." “During particularly emotional moments, Zora was known to activate them to alert the crew to her mental distress. The crew would then respond by seeing and hearing Zora.”
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Khanstant posted:well if ya don't like this one you don't like the tos enterprise 
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My only issue with the detached nacelles, enormous turbolift space and programmable matter is they would even continue to use starships in any form. The tech is so advanced they could literally be anything you want but somehow they look like centuries old space travel, they might as well have clipper ships traveling in space. Like everything in discovery its all wasted science fiction ideas only to wallow in nostalgia and individual ego. I wouldn't mind space travel that was more like magic in the 31st century but then they're just making Dr. Who.
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the ideal spaceship is indestructible, teleports anywhere instantly, has the best weapon, carpet, and is made of totally invisible material. all you need are cloaking devices for individuals, otherwise it just looks like a couple hundred people zipping around space
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Khanstant posted:the ideal spaceship is indestructible, teleports anywhere instantly, has the best weapon, carpet, and is made of totally invisible material. all you need are cloaking devices for individuals, otherwise it just looks like a couple hundred people zipping around space But does it almost kill all it's crew in entirely implausible ways every two weeks or so? If not that's far from "ideal"
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Khanstant posted:the ideal spaceship is indestructible, teleports anywhere instantly, has the best weapon, carpet, and is made of totally invisible material. all you need are cloaking devices for individuals, otherwise it just looks like a couple hundred people zipping around space This would loving own. How do they clean the invisible carpets though?
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Cross-Section posted:I guess it's time to post one of my favorite fan creations again i love and hate this Khanstant posted:i also like the idea of the classic ufo saucer with the ring around it. oneill cylinder is my favourite kind of space habitat, and ring variants are cool too. obvs the ship here isn't a habitat, but i like the visual and mechanical motif of a big ring. yes please, we need the best friend ship
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There was a Mad parody of one of the early films, might have been WOK or Search for Spock where Mort Drucker drew the Enterprise flying upside down the entire story. I want to see that in canon. Also the gold key comics version that has turbo fire coming out of it's nacelles:
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Sooper Gila posted:There was a Mad parody of one of the early films, might have been WOK or Search for Spock where Mort Drucker drew the Enterprise flying upside down the entire story. I want to see that in canon. Also the gold key comics version that has turbo fire coming out of it's nacelles: Ohhh. Those are nacelles.
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I ran the dinner party scene and when it got to the part with Hemmer talking about 'superior senses' and 'I like her', it seemed clear that Bruce Horak is basing his portrayal of Hemmer at least partly on Jeremy Combs' Shran. The delivery was just so... Shran.
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It is still funny to me that nacelle is a real thing in aeronautical engineering, and not a made up space word.
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Seemlar posted:Every Star Trek battle against Starfleet should be enemies concentrating fire on the nacelles and the bridge, this isn't done because knowing the one weird trick to end all fights against Starfleet designs instantly isn't actually interesting or entertaining. Happens a couple times in ST:LD S1e10
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