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This is going to be a hot rear end take. Wheel standers are dumb. They are built to do that and are just a logical conclusion taken to the extreme like drift cars, donks, or Carolina squatting. Put the motor up front and then I might be impressed. Also, public roadway goddammit. Also *yells at clouds*
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I refuse to agree on "specialized car is dumb" as a take. unless you combine it with public roads, then we are on the same page.  Dang fools, Public roads aint for fancy drivin'
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May 16, 2022 18:36
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um excuse me posted:This is going to be a hot rear end take. Wheel standers are dumb. They are built to do that and are just a logical conclusion taken to the extreme like drift cars, donks, or Carolina squatting. Put the motor up front and then I might be impressed. It makes me smile, and it's rare. I like it.
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May 16, 2022 19:45
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StormDrain posted:It makes me smile, and it's rare. I like it. Yeah back when Roadkill did the wheelstand with Stubby Bob, I actually cheered out loud when it happened. Wheelies fuckin rule but the being on a public road is definitely dumb.
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May 16, 2022 19:57
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Powershift posted:From a 6x6 military truck: That reminded me of a Tatra 815 6x6 like the one the War Rig from Mad Max is based on initially, but the one pictured above seems to use solid axles that rotate around the mounting point of the transfer case, so not Tatra. The 815 uses a central enclosed tube that the driveshaft goes down from rear to front, with a tranfer case in the middle. They still use the same design: https://www.tatratrucks.com/why-tatra/tatra-vehicle-design/tatra-vehicle-design-1/ They're kind of like VW swing axles, with attendant camber change on articulation. Incredibly flexible, though. Not sure what the above one is, but the bolt-together diff housings scream "Russian" to me.
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May 16, 2022 22:20
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Large Testicles posted:Yeah back when Roadkill did the wheelstand with Stubby Bob, I actually cheered out loud when it happened. Wheelies fuckin rule but the being on a public road is definitely dumb. This is what people don't realize. Stubby Bob still had a mid mounted rear wheel drive motor. It also wasn't mounted deliberately high up. It took torque to get that truck in the air. Wheel standers are rear mounted with the engine over or behind the rear axle to leverage as much weight off the front axle as possible. They're easy to get into the air and easy to set down. A lot of them also have steering so it's not like they're even hard to control. They're interesting machines but people generally give them too much credit.
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um excuse me posted:This is what people don't realize. Stubby Bob still had a mid mounted rear wheel drive motor. It also wasn't mounted deliberately high up. It took torque to get that truck in the air. Wheel standers are rear mounted with the engine over or behind the rear axle to leverage as much weight off the front axle as possible. They're easy to get into the air and easy to set down. A lot of them also have steering so it's not like they're even hard to control. They're interesting machines but people generally give them too much credit. Nah, I get that, it still kicks rear end.
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May 16, 2022 23:04
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Post / gang tag combo. 
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May 16, 2022 23:13
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Hot take: top fuel dragsters suck. They can only go fast because they were made to go fast
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May 16, 2022 23:20
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Galler posted:Hot take: top fuel dragsters suck. They can only go fast because they were made to go fast This is what people don't realize. Dragsters are mid mounted with the engine near the rear axle to leverage as much weight onto the rear tyres as possible. They're fast to get off the line and fast mid-track. A lot of them also have steering so it's not like they're even hard to control. They're interesting machines but people generally give them too much credit.
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May 16, 2022 23:50
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Top fuel being used as the obvious counterpoint just proves what I'm saying more.
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May 16, 2022 23:52
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Live action Scooby Doo looking good.
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May 17, 2022 01:42
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I want a special car that has to be trailered to a special closed road so I can drive in a circle that goes nowhere on tires that measure their life by the hour. Wheel standers are valid. Not my cup of tea but still valid. I do like that ais collective take is not on public roads though.
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May 17, 2022 02:21
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honda whisperer posted:I want a special car that has to be trailered to a special closed road so I can drive in a circle that goes nowhere on tires that measure their life by the hour. racing.txt But yes, it's good to see AI in general understanding "no public roads". I don't care what you want to build if you happen to like it past that, even if it's not racing. Go wild, it will probably be fun to see or at least make fun of.
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May 17, 2022 02:28
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Yeah I don't understand all the hate in general. If it's your passion and your money then do what
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May 17, 2022 04:42
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You keep my pre war classic cars' name out of your mouth
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May 17, 2022 06:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hno6t2AYi0
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May 17, 2022 11:46
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One of the vehicles I am truly disappointed I didn't buy when I could afford to. 
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slidebite posted:One of the vehicles I am truly disappointed I didn't buy when I could afford to. Ditto. I’m just glad I got my S2000 before everything went coo-coo bananas
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May 17, 2022 16:18
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um excuse me posted:Top fuel being used as the obvious counterpoint just proves what I'm saying more. Revelation ITT: purpose-built cars do the thing they were built to do well.
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May 17, 2022 20:08
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I never said they weren't?
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Darchangel posted:Revelation ITT: purpose-built cars do the thing they were built to do well. Whoa, hold up
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um excuse me posted:I never said they weren't? You also haven't really articulated your argument well other than making GBS threads on certain things for doing exactly what they're built for so IDK exactly where you're going with this.
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May 18, 2022 08:57
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I stated beforehand that my opinion was controversial then explained my logic. If that isn't enough I don't know what to tell you, man.
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May 18, 2022 15:16
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Dunno if I've posted this or not but mad Yorkshireman living in France builds insanely lightweight, spaceframed, k-swapped GTM Mini with help from his dad. Latest video, it's currently 15 episodes in at this point and very cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uzHXvFZ5IU
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um excuse me posted:I stated beforehand that my opinion was controversial then explained my logic. If that isn't enough I don't know what to tell you, man. post/username
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Galler posted:Hot take: top fuel dragsters suck. They can only go fast because they were made to go fast Don't they also have to replace a good portion of the engine components after each <5-second run? Something that has always made me curious - about all racing but in particular Top Fuel drag - is, I guess, how purpose-built can you get? I know I've brought this up on these forums before, maybe even ITT, but it seems to me even as a layman that the rules for Top Fuel require the engines to be based on rather archaic designs, is this fair or are big-block Hemis with screw superchargers and 'look-how-hard-i-can-pee' fuel injectors actually the best tool for the job? F1 seems a much better example of the rules actually allowing competitors to make technological advancements that continue to break records. So if you threw out most of the rulebook, and gave some Europeans infinite money to build a new ICE-powered drag car, would it still look like a Top Fuel dragster? Last time I brought this up someone mentioned a Le Mans-adjacent project that was basically "throwing out the rulebook," and it was very interesting and informative, but I want to see what you could do with a drag car, take the most neanderthal form of racing and use some tech magic on it. Joe Mama posted:Yeah I don't understand all the hate in general. If it's your passion and your money then do what I used to get a big hate boner for 'riced out' cars. Ever since I've owned a few motorcycles (that I probably could have taken better care of ) I don't like to yuck people's yums about cars anymore. I might privately think it looks ugly but I usually correct myself, "that guy probably loves his car and there's nothing wrong with that."The only exception to this that I still scoff at openly are Lamborghinis, which are the Ed Hardy trucker hats of the supercar world.
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Top Fuel Dragsters need a full rebuild every run and turn their clutch to dust on every run. It is the pinnacle of getting power out of an engine just long enough to get it down the track before it grenades.
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Mister Speaker posted:Don't they also have to replace a good portion of the engine components after each <5-second run? poo poo, if you gave the present Top Fuel teams a free hand the powertrain would be a hell of a lot different. I don’t know if the cars would change radically; Definitely more tire and more wheelbase, maybe different aero. The engine and clutch though? Whooooooo. I don’t even know where they’d go. Probably more nitro, definitely more inches, probably turbos. It’d be a hell of a thing, certainly. Honestly, you can probably look at the SCTA AA/BFS land speed cars for where the engines would go, just with a clutch and direct drive rearend instead of a transmission.
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Teams would probably start using rocket fuel again https://www.dragzine.com/news/flashback-friday-the-story-of-the-leathal-fuel-called-hydrazine/
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Looking forward to Top Volt drags
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Big Taint posted:Looking forward to Top Volt drags Only if they use some of that power to make an extremely loud noise while doing it Electric cars are so boring sounding
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Large Testicles posted:Only if they use some of that power to make an extremely loud noise while doing it Use half the available power to drive an immense subwoofer to produce a 5 second long 1/4 mile brown note.
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Large Testicles posted:Only if they use some of that power to make an extremely loud noise while doing it Sonic booms are loud right?
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MrYenko posted:poo poo, if you gave the present Top Fuel teams a free hand the powertrain would be a hell of a lot different. I don’t know if the cars would change radically; Definitely more tire and more wheelbase, maybe different aero. I would be very interested in an 'unlimited' class in drag racing.
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I mean, someone did break the record with a jet-powered car, didn't they? (EDIT: I guess it was a rocket-powered car? 3.22 seconds) That's why I specified ICE, it would certainly be interesting to see what they could do if they weren't limited to big V8 power, like we're all still living in loving American Graffiti or something.
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Humphreys posted:I would be very interested in an 'unlimited' class in drag racing. It would get boring and uncompetitive real fast. The teams with the most money would win everything and squeeze out everyone else.
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Even with the rulebook they have, Top Fuel is already approaching the limits of what can be done in terms of putting power down to a
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Large Testicles posted:Electric cars are so boring sounding I like watching MotoE because the bikes sound like TIE Fighters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyIX81gE8vU
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Large Testicles posted:Electric cars are so boring sounding On the other hand, I very much like the obnoxious diesel rattle of vans and busses getting replaced with EVs. Much prefer the scifi whirring sound.
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