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CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Deteriorata posted:

It would get boring and uncompetitive real fast. The teams with the most money would win everything and squeeze out everyone else.

Thats already the case except Top Fuel are already so on the edge that no amount of money can make a run predicable.

quote:

I mean, someone did break the record with a jet-powered car, didn't they? (EDIT: I guess it was a rocket-powered car? 3.22 seconds)

That would be Vanishing Point (rocket powered Funny Car) a few decades ago at 402MPH which is 647 kph or 179 meters a second. That car didnt comply with any rulebook and a lot of tracks were side eyeing that car 4 decades ago as just too fast to be safe.

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MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Humphreys posted:

I would be very interested in an 'unlimited' class in drag racing.

Honestly if you're into the details of the cars themselves, start following LSR. It's a hell of a lot more innovative than the NHRA fuel classes.

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

That car didnt comply with any rulebook and a lot of tracks were side eyeing that car 4 decades ago as just too fast to be safe.

That's the other part of it. Top Fuel only races to 1000' because at this point they need the extra 320' of shutdown distance to try and gain back some safety margin.

If you did find some significant gain in performance outside of current NHRA rules and even picked up just a few tenths or tens of MPH, you'd be too fast to safely use it at any existing track.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Thats already the case except Top Fuel are already so on the edge that no amount of money can make a run predicable.

That would be Vanishing Point (rocket powered Funny Car) a few decades ago at 402MPH which is 647 kph or 179 meters a second. That car didnt comply with any rulebook and a lot of tracks were side eyeing that car 4 decades ago as just too fast to be safe.

Found a video of this, the run is at 3:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QC6tymIvKA

Boaz MacPhereson
Jul 11, 2006

Day 12045 Ht10hands 180lbs
No Name
No lumps No Bumps Full life Clean
Two good eyes No Busted Limbs
Piss OK Genitals intact
Multiple scars Heals fast
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UNIVERSAL DONOR
Lone Road Warrior Rundown
on the Powder Lakes V8
No guzzoline No supplies
ISOLATE PSYCHOTIC
Keep muzzled...

Jesus. Don't miss that left.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I always found it interesting that these rocket cars used drag radials in the rear despite not being driven. Probably easier to use standard kit, but I know it not strictly necessary, just look at the LSR world for proof.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:



I'm sorry, that was a quarter mile? :eyepop:

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
The sense of scale and enormity of racing is easily lost on people. These machines make it look easy. Vanishing Point was effectively a bomb pointed towards the horizon. This is why it is important to go watch races in person, and get behind the driver seat if you are privileged enough to do so. It very quickly makes arguments against it or making false equivalences to things that appear similar look stupid. Like the overview effect, but less SPAAACE and politicians calling space exploration a waste of money.

Along those lines, people who think drag racing is easy compared to road course racing are stupid.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


um excuse me posted:

I always found it interesting that these rocket cars used drag radials in the rear despite not being driven. Probably easier to use standard kit, but I know it not strictly necessary, just look at the LSR world for proof.

I think once you start talking about rocket cars with non-driven wheels, you can technically make something so fast that a human wouldn't survive the acceleration, so it becomes sort of a "what are we even trying to do here" thing.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

Finger Prince posted:

"what are we even trying to do here"

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


We should try to build the world's biggest loop de loop.

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Big Taint posted:

Looking forward to Top Volt drags

Yes.

Large Testicles posted:

Only if they use some of that power to make an extremely loud noise while doing it

Electric cars are so boring sounding

That much power *does* make a noise, or at least the motors and gears do. It's not the apocalyptic feel-it-to-the-core-of-your-being that Top Fuel produces, of course.

Part of the rules in Top Fuel are designed to limit top speeds for safety reasons. Same reason they shortened TF to 1000'. They were *already* too fast.

e: f, b.



Collateral Damage posted:

Electric consumer cars maybe.

I like watching MotoE because the bikes sound like TIE Fighters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyIX81gE8vU

I like the noises that powerful piston engines produce (especially Ducatis...), but I can work with this.


um excuse me posted:

I always found it interesting that these rocket cars used drag radials in the rear despite not being driven. Probably easier to use standard kit, but I know it not strictly necessary, just look at the LSR world for proof.

Looks like they're narrower than the usual slicks, maybe 10", and definitely being run at higher pressures. Most jet dragsters run similar in my experience. Like only 6-8" wide rather than 16".

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Olympic Mathlete posted:

We should try to build the world's biggest loop de loop.

I propose a miniature ringworld circling the Earth. At the very least, we can then prove to flat Earth idiots once and for all the the goddamned world is round.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Exige Cup 430 Final Edition was added to the show or display eligible list last month 🤔

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

JFC that thing must be going 100 by the time it passes the signal, right?

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


y'all remember when Imprezas looked good?

https://twitter.com/strange_car/status/1527349326472966145?s=20&t=7s_Osfjt28yyDAPfPWvDqg

boxen
Feb 20, 2011
So, imagine all the effort it takes to make drag cars go fast and instead design a car that when you push the go pedal, the front wheels come off the ground. Ditch the go fast bit entirely. That's gotta be cooler than going in a straight line, right?

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

I'll take short wheelbase, 12" rims and 4.64 rear end for $200 Alex

Krakox
Oct 9, 2012
I like slow cars :) Give me a dodge omni to slam around corners any day

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


boxen posted:

So, imagine all the effort it takes to make drag cars go fast and instead design a car that when you push the go pedal, the front wheels come off the ground. Ditch the go fast bit entirely. That's gotta be cooler than going in a straight line, right?

That's a good starting point but I want the front wheels to keep going around.

Burnout -> staging -> backflip -> 1/4 mile pass

StormDrain
May 22, 2003

Thirteen Letter
There should be jumps in the quarter mile

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

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StormDrain posted:

There should be jumps in the quarter mile

there's always stadium trucks

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Galler posted:

That's a good starting point but I want the front wheels to keep going around.

Burnout -> staging -> backflip -> 1/4 mile pass

4wd with lockers? :cmon:

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR

um excuse me posted:

, people who think drag racing is easy compared to road course racing are stupid.

To clarify my earlier 'neanderthal form of racing' comment, I didn't mean anything about the skill involved. It's just a very basal form of racing to enjoy, if that makes sense. There's less to be impressed by than course racing. I still love it.

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Mister Speaker posted:

To clarify my earlier 'neanderthal form of racing' comment, I didn't mean anything about the skill involved. It's just a very basal form of racing to enjoy, if that makes sense. There's less to be impressed by than course racing. I still love it.

It's a different skill set altogether it seems to me. I can be impressed by Similarly Lewis Hamilton adapting to any weather conditions and having the reaction time he has etc. I can be impressed by Top Fuel guy being in the physical shape to take however many g of acceleration and the mechanics building the engine to the edge of mechanics and the tyres to put that to the ground etc as well

Imperador do Brasil
Nov 18, 2005
Rotor-rific



Krakox posted:

I like slow cars :) Give me a dodge omni to slam around corners any day

Me too. I tell my kid all the time - it’s more fun to drive a 100hp Del Sol at 10/10 while being legal on back roads than to just go fast in a straight line to 60 in a 500hp car. I’ve had everything from 72hp 80’s econoboxes to Corvette, M3, and everything in between. The most fun always lies in something with moderate power and excellent suspension tuning

Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet


From the comments:

quote:

I was there that day, when interviewed as to why he couldn’t quite make the 300mph in earlier runs he said “I black out at 298 mph and my thumbs come off the dead mans handles, causing the chutes to open” , after the epic 308 mph run he was again interviewed and asked how he had stopped himself from blacking out, his answer “ I still blacked out but I had taped the handles down so the chute couldn’t open. Absolute hero.

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

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Imperador do Brasil posted:

Me too. I tell my kid all the time - it’s more fun to drive a 100hp Del Sol at 10/10 while being legal on back roads than to just go fast in a straight line to 60 in a 500hp car. I’ve had everything from 72hp 80’s econoboxes to Corvette, M3, and everything in between. The most fun always lies in something with moderate power and excellent suspension tuning

Yeah, none of my friends understand why I like my tiny little cars when I'm 6'3" but I try to explain to them that it's like driving a go-kart on the street and those are a loving riot.

Right now I have a '17 Focus with stiffer springs, upgraded bushings and nice tires. my fiancée drove it for the first time the other day and was like "ooh i actually get this now"

Large Testicles fucked around with this message at 04:43 on May 20, 2022

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Imperador do Brasil posted:

Me too. I tell my kid all the time - it’s more fun to drive a 100hp Del Sol at 10/10 while being legal on back roads than to just go fast in a straight line to 60 in a 500hp car. I’ve had everything from 72hp 80’s econoboxes to Corvette, M3, and everything in between. The most fun always lies in something with moderate power and excellent suspension tuning

Yup the gutless pos fiat was a blast to drive (when it worked) because with 23hp it was nearly impossible to break any laws, you could just throw it around all day at full throttle smiling. The 320i was excellent as well but a bit faster with track suspension, brakes and 205 wide track tires but still 110hp on a good day.

Imperador do Brasil
Nov 18, 2005
Rotor-rific



Large Testicles posted:

Yeah, none of my friends understand why I like my tiny little cars when I'm 6'3" but I try to explain to them that it's like driving a go-kart on the street and those are a loving riot.

Right now I have a '17 Focus with stiffer springs, upgraded bushings and nice tires. my fiancée drove it for the first time the other day and was like "ooh i actually get this now"

I’m an unabashed Honda-lover, and when I wanted something sensible for my kid to drive daily and in winter instead of the Del Sol (which will rust to bits if it even senses salt on the roads), I said he could use my ‘15 Fit. It was all stock so he was understandably underwhelmed since the Del Sol had Tanabe coilovers, strut bars, and some decent rubber. I told him I’d make it better so I put on an HKS Cool Style exhaust I had from my previous fit, Tein springs and new struts, and some nicer wheels. Now even my wife likes it, and she poo-poo’d the car when I first got it as “nice but too boring”.

My EP3 civic Si also has full suspension, camber arms, etc etc and even with only ~165hp it’s just so much fun to drive.

Now I just need to do something about the stock suspension on my S2000…

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk
In a slight departure from slow car fast, Mercedes just sold Rudolf Uhlenhaut's personal 300SLR coupe from their museum for One Hundred and Thirty Five million Euros.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/ps115m-mercedes-benz-300-slr-most-expensive-car-world




quote:

Having completed test drives at the Nürburgring in 1955, legendary Formula One champion Juan Manuel Fangio thought that his Mercedes hadn’t been set up properly.

An ‘opulent’ lunch in his belly, Rudolf Uhlenhaut – Mercedes-Benz’s prized engineer at the time – decided to check for himself. Furnished in his suit and tie, the Anglo-German simply got in the car and tested around the fearsome Green Hell himself.

He was three seconds faster than Fangio around the ‘Ring. Fangio is a five-time F1 world champion. Rudy’s polite comments after the test? That Fangio - Fangio - should ‘practice’.

quote:

A story circulates that running late for a meeting Uhlenhaut roared up the autobahn from Munich to Stuttgart in just over an hour, a 137 mile/220 km journey that today takes two-and-a-half.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

I’d have a lot more time for the German automakers today if they were run by people with swagger like that, instead of stuffy economists and unrepentant Nazi war profiteers.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Actually are there any owners of car companies who are actually cool and not dickheads? I stopped following Glickenhaus for some shady comments the son made about something. I think he was lovely about poor people or something and I was like you may make cool cars but nah.

Is Koenigsegg an arse? Who is the automotive cool guy?

McTinkerson
Jul 5, 2007

Dreaming of Shock Diamonds


Koenigsegg for sure is a good dude. While, if memory serves, he came from money and his parents helped with his seed funding way back, he has always put in the work.

Toyota's current CEO perhaps as well?

Edit: Alois Ruf?

E2: Koenigsegg doesn't seem to have any employee turnover at all, so that's a pretty good sign.

McTinkerson fucked around with this message at 14:26 on May 20, 2022

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Akira Nakai who does the RWB Porsches sounds like a cool car guy. Not sure if that counts.

BuckyDoneGun
Nov 30, 2004
fat drunk

McTinkerson posted:

Koenigsegg for sure is a good dude. While, if memory serves, he came from money and his parents helped with his seed funding way back, he has always put in the work.

I have no doubt that with his mind, coming from money or not probably doesn't matter.

Mate Rimac seems cool as gently caress. Turned down big money to keep the company in Croatia, built his own 600hp electric E30 M3, rides fast ebikes, impressed VW/Porsche enough to basically hand him Bugatti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSiIfwC5DI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxu2pjVozVM

BuckyDoneGun fucked around with this message at 14:57 on May 20, 2022

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Imperador do Brasil posted:

Me too. I tell my kid all the time - it’s more fun to drive a 100hp Del Sol at 10/10 while being legal on back roads than to just go fast in a straight line to 60 in a 500hp car. I’ve had everything from 72hp 80’s econoboxes to Corvette, M3, and everything in between. The most fun always lies in something with moderate power and excellent suspension tuning

While I generally agree with this (I own a, er... several first gen RX-7s,) there are too many highways between where I am and where I want to be here in Dallas. For that, I love my Crown Vic - it's a V8 couch, perfect for the job. Still pretty low power given it's an early 2000s Ford 4.6 (247 HP in the cop trim) and handles decently well for a 4000 lb. machine also thanks to cop stuff. I'm on the verge of needing new shocks, though - it's not bouncing or wallowing, but rebound is getting a little uncontrolled in the front.
Also needs lowering, but that's personal aesthetics.

Large Testicles
Jun 1, 2020

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AI tangent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrkuo0y8gMU

Thorbeef
Jul 24, 2007

*Michael Fassbender perfection dot gif maaate*

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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



I love the animation the most. Really reminds me of 90s surf magazines.

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