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ncumbered_by_idgits posted:That man in the white trunks looks like Sméagol. delete this
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ncumbered_by_idgits posted:That man in the white trunks looks like Sméagol. He's called Minoru Suzuki, he was a co-founder of Japanese MMA pioneers Pancrase.
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May 27, 2022 16:25
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Any excuse to post the young Suzuki gif
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CommonShore posted:delete this Leave it; just send it to Suzu and it'll sort itself out.
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May 27, 2022 17:10
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EdsTeioh posted:Leave it; just send it to Suzu and it'll sort itself out. I was trying to keep the poster safe from that very danger before someone quoted it and it was too late
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May 27, 2022 17:42
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CommonShore posted:I was trying to keep the poster safe from that very danger before someone quoted it and it was too late He deserves it though with those kinds of comments.
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May 27, 2022 22:02
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SG Bamboo posted:Any excuse to post the young Suzuki gif It’s ridiculous how good it is for being so simple.
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SG Bamboo posted:Any excuse to post the young Suzuki gif Oh poo poo
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What did finding the One Ring do to that handsome man?
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i showed the post to suzuki
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ncumbered_by_idgits posted:That man in the white trunks looks like Sméagol. STONE COLD 64 posted:i showed the post to suzuki Well, nice knowing you, ncumbered_by_idgits.
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May 28, 2022 11:57
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Here's a though experiment, if Tony Khan and Gedo can't recover from hardcore fan displeasure at their current booking style who wins the Wrestling Observer best booker award for this year?
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fez_machine posted:Here's a though experiment, if Tony Khan and Gedo can't recover from hardcore fan displeasure at their current booking style who wins the Wrestling Observer best booker award for this year? Sanshiro Takagi, maybe?
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May 28, 2022 13:58
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I didn't think hardcore fans were displeased by Tony's booking style?
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May 28, 2022 14:01
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Whoever books STARDOM (Rossy?) most likely, maybe Pulse for DPW or Excalibur for PWG depending on buzz. I know Dave doesn't rate the DDT family particularly highly so probably not Sanshiro Takagi
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Venomous posted:I didn't think hardcore fans were displeased by Tony's booking style? It's bubbling under. Twitter, reddit and the AEW thread here often contain various arguments that indicate that the honeymoon period is over. The Everything Elite podcast just wrapped up because of the booking. There's been rumblings especially over the current TNT title feud.
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May 28, 2022 14:08
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Dave would probably push for Rossy, but the only way Tony Khan doesn't win this year is if it's going home to Gedo (or maybe Kikuchi the Official)
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People were declaring AEW dead at the end of 2019 because of the Dark Order and there have been people yelling about Tony's awful booking since day one. A lot of the people on here have been whining about something or other since day one and they're just neurotic and nearly impossible to please.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Excalibur doesn't book PWG and DPW even being on the ballot will probably be the first time the majority of WON readers learn about it. Interesting, I was working under the incorrect assumption that Observer readers were the kind of online fans that DPW was aimed towards.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:People were declaring AEW dead at the end of 2019 because of the Dark Order and there have been people yelling about Tony's awful booking since day one. A lot of the people on here have been whining about something or other since day one and they're just neurotic and nearly impossible to please. I've been following AEW from day dot. The discussion of the booking has never been this negative and a lot of it feels like it's coming from people who usually really like the product.
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If the current TNT title program represents the lowest point of Tony Khan’s booking ability so far then he’s still miles ahead of a lot of other bookers, and I say that as someone who thinks it sucks absolute poo poo and tempts me towards the fast forward button any time Sammy shows up in a setting where he’s not likely to do a sweet flip and make me forget briefly how much I’m not into his current character.
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Nearly every major angle currently in the company has been affected by injury, COVID, travel issues, or Cody. The main thing I've noticed is people being overly nitpicky or just disingenuous or overreacting when someone they like doesn't win. I guess that qualifies as the honeymoon period being over, which doesn't necessarily mean something has gotten worse, just that people aren't as excited about something 3 years later and often try to rationalize it as the thing getting worse.
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i generally like all elite wrestling's booking and think it's the most logical of any wrestling company in years. it almost always leads to interesting feuds and kickass matches I'm excited to see every week.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:i generally like all elite wrestling's booking and think it's the most logical of any wrestling company in years. it almost always leads to interesting feuds and kickass matches I'm excited to see every week. Worth mentioning that they don't insult their collective audience's intelligence for tuning in, as well
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fez_machine posted:Here's a though experiment, if Tony Khan and Gedo can't recover from hardcore fan displeasure at their current booking style who wins the Wrestling Observer best booker award for this year? So, it'll be Tony Khan. AEW may not be tickling hardcore fans but WON readers go with Dave most of the time. And Dave isn't down on AEW. If I'm voting based on the first 5 months of the year I'd give it to either whoever is booking Dragongate or whoever is booking GLEAT. Probably GLEAT's booker, which for the G Pro side at least I suspect is CIMA, or at least he's involved in the booking committee. Who WON voters would go for? Man, if not NJPW or AEW I dunno. Stardom seems a safe default for "Dave actually covers it". Coz there's not much he seems to watch outside of AEW, NJPW & WWE. Stardom, PWG.
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One of the WrestleTalk guys said he'd only ever lose faith in Tony K's booking if he made himself an onscreen character. That's pretty much where I am. Wish the women's division was better.
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SG Bamboo posted:Whoever books STARDOM (Rossy?) most likely, maybe Pulse for DPW or Excalibur for PWG depending on buzz. I know Dave doesn't rate the DDT family particularly highly so probably not Sanshiro Takagi i don't even know what kind of pilled this post is, we need to discover new pills
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Dave also doesn’t really cover Stardom that much: it gets match results in the Observer and he might review a match here or there but it’s not a weekly/monthly thing. The big Observer Stardom coverage is Alvarez and Filthy Tom who do the big matches on all of the PPVs. It wouldn’t be Gedo because they aren’t covering New Japan much - don’t think Dave watched a single match from BOSJ which has been the most hyped NJPW tour in a very long time. I assume whoever the UFC booker is would get it but who knows
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Sammys stuff is the first time ive seen universal displeasure at the booking. Even the year 0 Dark Order stuff and Nightmare collective had people who either enjoyed it or didnt think negatively about it.
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tony khan absolutely deserves his best promoter awards tho i’m less sold on booker . dragongate is to me clearly the best booked promotion in the world right now but the office committee (or genki lol) is never gonna win. it’ll be tony for years just like it was gedo for years. it’s the popular “good” promotion and no one else is gonna be able to be able to amass critical support
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Has anything come out on how much of a shoot or not a shoot the gameshow version of NXT was? Same question on the Diva search and Tough Enough.
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Defenestrategy posted:Sammys stuff is the first time ive seen universal displeasure at the booking. Even the year 0 Dark Order stuff and Nightmare collective had people who either enjoyed it or didnt think negatively about it. even then i think there's smart decisions being made about it in the overall mess. there's a world where sammy and tay were still faces and still being booed out of the building instead of making the pivot, and frankie has a real fun dynamic with sammy and tay in a way i'd like to see carried forward.... assuming that moty goes over sunday and frankie and sammy are genuinely out of the tnt scene
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flatluigi posted:even then i think there's smart decisions being made about it in the overall mess. there's a world where sammy and tay were still faces and still being booed out of the building instead of making the pivot, and frankie has a real fun dynamic with sammy and tay in a way i'd like to see carried forward.... assuming that moty goes over sunday and frankie and sammy are genuinely out of the tnt scene That dynamic is great. I love how Frankie is like "sigh I hate you two so much but the enemy of my enemy... loving poo poo I can't wait to finish this so I can get as far away from you as possible."
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SG Bamboo posted:Interesting, I was working under the incorrect assumption that Observer readers were the kind of online fans that DPW was aimed towards. it was kind of remarkable when the readership was following gcw enough for nick gage to place in the top 10 in the north america mvp category a few years ago. they are maybe like 20 months ahead of dave, who was way out ahead of the rest of wrestling media when he got super into pwg about ~6 years late
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The Observer Award voters are, through the magic of parallel universes, just bix and 600 jims cornette.
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