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literally why is it so hard for people to admit it's a pretty okay movie at best? it did a lot of stuff first, but that's the whole "citizen kane is the best because it was first" argument again, and i hate to break it to you, but A New Hope isn't even in the same tier bracket as Citizen Kane it's a good movie, but nowhere near as good as i thought it was in 1982
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I rewatched A New Hope a few nights ago for its 45th anniversary and it's still a perfect movie IMO I saw Citizen Kane for the first time like 2 years ago, and while I did think it was good, I didn't think it was A New Hope level good, that's for sure.
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precision posted:literally why is it so hard for people to admit it's a pretty okay movie at best? it did a lot of stuff first, but that's the whole "citizen kane is the best because it was first" argument again, and i hate to break it to you, but A New Hope isn't even in the same tier bracket as Citizen Kane Star Wars (1977) is a very, very, very good film. hope that helps
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Rageaholic posted:I saw Citizen Kane for the first time like 2 years ago, and while I did think it was good, I didn't think it was A New Hope level good, that's for sure. welp
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DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:Star Wars (1977) is a very, very, very good film. hope that helps It's so good it was remade as Top Gun 2.
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precision posted:literally why is it so hard for people to admit it's a pretty okay movie at best? it did a lot of stuff first, but that's the whole "citizen kane is the best because it was first" argument again, and i hate to break it to you, but A New Hope isn't even in the same tier bracket as Citizen Kane precision posted:literally why is it so hard for people to admit it's a pretty okay movie at best? it did a lot of stuff first, but that's the whole "citizen kane is the best because it was first" argument again, and i hate to break it to you, but A New Hope isn't even in the same tier bracket as Citizen Kane Why is it so hard for you to admit you can’t enjoy one of the best movies ever made? It’s better then citizen Kane. Sorry to break it to you.
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Why did I you say it twice I didn’t.
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CelticPredator posted:Why did I you say it twice Because of the echo?
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# ? May 29, 2022 02:43 |
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Yeah the huge vagina
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# ? May 29, 2022 02:58 |
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Is new home better than citzen kane is the most interesting topic point that has come out of this the answer: no
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precision posted:literally why is it so hard for people to admit it's a pretty okay movie at best? Do not attempt to tell a bunch of strangers to accept your hot take as fact. And it is 100% a hot take btw. I mean the fact that if you did a poll of the movie industry literally 80% of the people 50 or younger would say "I got into the movies because of Star Wars", it had so much cultural gravity it quite literally distorted the entire film industry toward it. Any movie that could break so many peoples' minds so thoroughly and remain relevant for over 45 years is not "a pretty okay movie" that got lucky, come on now.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Do not attempt to tell a bunch of strangers to accept your hot take as fact. listen i dont want to take that morons side but very small coincidences do shape the future in profound ways
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Eh we all have hot takes, it's trying to convince people they're correct that I object to. As far as Star Wars succeeding on coincidence, I think that's an interesting theory. I do think that the New Hollywood movement was going to end at some point (the mass audience was not going to turn out in droves for The Deer Hunter which was famously in production when Star Wars debuted, or Sorcerer, which is a great film but a grueling one). I don't see anyone else accomplishing what Lucas did in the short term. Spielberg maybe, although I don't see Raiders changing lives like Star Wars did. What are some of your candidates?
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i'm not trying to convince anyone else that i am correct, i just want them to respect my stupid opinion! if there is a miscommunication here then okay. it seems to me that a couple of us were like "a new hope isn't that hot after all" and a bunch of people went "lmao"
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# ? May 29, 2022 05:56 |
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You walked into the room and shat on the floor and you want me to respect that??????
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# ? May 29, 2022 22:26 |
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Star Wars is mostly unwatchable trash
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Me, on the other hand? I'm quite secure in knowing I'm correct, and it's up to you to agree with me or be a bunch of wrongs. Your call.
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CelticPredator posted:You walked into the room and shat on the floor and you want me to respect that?????? buddy, if someone sharing their opinion is "taking a poo poo on the floor" in your world, i'm afraid that's kinda on you
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Where's my new Evil Dead trailer, HBO? EDIT: I hope the holdup is because it's good enough that they're trying to sort out a theatrical release. caligulamprey fucked around with this message at 06:08 on May 30, 2022 |
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this looks great!
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# ? May 30, 2022 11:53 |
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Looks like this is a continuous action scene. Cool!
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# ? May 30, 2022 12:31 |
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Shut up about space fight movie rankings in here you insufferable dummies
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a new hope really isnt that great but whatever yall do you
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whydirt posted:Shut up about space fight movie rankings in here you insufferable dummies You sure seem tired of all these stars wars
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i thought this was doing the annoying youtube trailer thing of doing a 5 second mini trailer at the start, but apparently the whole thing is like this
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Eh we all have hot takes, it's trying to convince people they're correct that I object to.
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wyoak posted:Spielberg - Jaws had maybe already done it? Yeah, Jaws basically invented the summer blockbuster, and Raiders re-invented the action film for the modern age. Star Wars still very much its own sci-fi phenomenon, though you could argue it only really mattered once Empire hit and proved it could be repeated.
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wyoak posted:Spielberg - Jaws had maybe already done it? I think Spielberg is probably the best candidate, I mean ET was enormous. Enormous! It just wasn't built for a franchise so it didn't leave much of a footprint. I think blockbusters may have warped slightly toward being more kid-friendly if Spielberg had been the breakout, though.
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it's very hard to convey to people just how big ET was. it was big in a way that even Star Wars kinda wasn't
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precision posted:it's very hard to convey to people just how big ET was. it was big in a way that even Star Wars kinda wasn't That's ahistorical nonsense, sorry.
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I remember ET being astronomically huge but I think it was just huge for children which is definitely tainting my memory of it.
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Jewmanji posted:That's ahistorical nonsense, sorry. whatever bro haha
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i didn't even specify what i meant, why are you so thirsty to dunk on my post lmao have a good one
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# ? May 31, 2022 20:59 |
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Somewhere in those 2 posts you could've explained what you really meant. ET did gross more than Star Wars, but not significantly more.
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Jewmanji posted:That's ahistorical nonsense, sorry. To a kid it would absolutely be the equivalent. The top 5 ticket sales of all time are Star Wars, E.T., Gone with the Wind, the Sound of Music, and Titanic. Basically these movies were all massive cultural phenoms in a league of their own (Titanic absolutely was, even though I was too old to get swept up in it, and my mom was absolutely gaga for Sound of Music) separated only by degrees. So yeah, technically E.T. wasn't as "big" as Star Wars, and it certainly didn't have the longevity, but it was huge. I had the bed sheets (and the Star Wars bed sheets, you know the ones.) and remember hearing "phone home" jokes for what seemed like 5 years, so yeah.
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I've been in neighborhoods in Cincinnati where they'd put you in the ground if they thought you were an ET fan.
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E.T. was responsible for turning the fortunes of Reese's Pieces around. You can't say the same thing about any of the candy featured in Star Wars.
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Chemtrailologist posted:Somewhere in those 2 posts you could've explained what you really meant. ET did gross more than Star Wars, but not significantly more. America fell in love with Elliott and ET. you literally heard people making phone home jokes irl. wel maybe you didn't, maybe you werent even alive. that's what i meant by "big in a way that star wars was't". i din't say "bigger than star wars". i said "differently bigly". but, i only really remember Empire and Jedi, i was barely alive for a new hope's theatrical run
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Also ET hit at just the right time. The year before ROTJ. I remember my dad was going to the movies all the time and coming home with wild tales of what he just saw for my brother and I. Blade Runner was the detective movie with the best lighting of all time (this is how he described it)! The Thing made him sick and he hated it. Referred to Arnold in Conan the Barbarian as a "real hardbody". I really wish we had more "person on the street who just walked out of the theater and gives you their first impression of the movie" footage from that time, would be fun to see.
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