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Yeah all the other ones did proper series finales, you could drop Turnabout Intruder in the middle of s2 and no one would notice.
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Charity Porno posted:I've never heard anyone complain about the ending. How weird. People complain about the ending all the time!
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Jun 1, 2022 19:53
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Taear posted:People complain about the ending all the time! What You Leave Behind? Not that I've heard. The whole 10 episode serialization culminating in the finale is the best thing ST has ever done, imo. e: lol "Keith DeCandido reviewed the episode for Tor.com and, while praising the resolution to the Dominion War, said that it failed as the finale to Deep Space Nine, stating that the end of the war and the end of the TV series are not synonymous. He expressed disappointment in the series' failure to resolve Sisko's primary goal of getting Bajor into the Federation. DeCandido compared the episode to other Star Trek series finales, writing, "TNG revisited the trial of humanity by the Q from its first episode, Voyager got our heroes home from the Delta Quadrant, and Enterprise ended with Earth helping form the Coalition of Planets that would eventually mutate into the Federation. But DS9 blew the landing by treating the show like Star Trek: The Dominion War." " Why couldn't DS9 have ended with a better finale, such as These Are the Voyages????
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Jun 1, 2022 19:55
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Terra Prime is the finale of Enterprise and These Are the Voyages is best left unwatched.
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Eimi posted:Terra Prime is the finale of Enterprise and These Are the Voyages is best left unwatched. this is fat riker erasure
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Jun 1, 2022 19:59
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zoux posted:What You Leave Behind? Not that I've heard. The whole 10 episode serialization culminating in the finale is the best thing ST has ever done, imo.
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Jun 1, 2022 20:00
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Eimi posted:Terra Prime is the finale of Enterprise and These Are the Voyages is best left unwatched. Seconding this. Enterprise ended on a tearjerker scene of Trip and T’Pol holding hands, thematically resolving the Human/Vulcan conflict presented in the pilot.
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Jun 1, 2022 20:01
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CLAM DOWN posted:this is fat riker erasure Look Riker's cooking show is the best episode of Picard as it turns out, so Fat Riker is still good.
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Jun 1, 2022 20:01
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zoux posted:What You Leave Behind? Not that I've heard. The whole 10 episode serialization culminating in the finale is the best thing ST has ever done, imo. Eh he's kinda right though. Imagine if DS9 got an eighth season to deal with the consequences of the war and a general denouement instead of just stopping abruptly. Same with Voyager, I don't think we needed another season of that but if they got home in like, episode 20 it would've been better.
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Grand Fromage posted:Eh he's kinda right though. Imagine if DS9 got an eighth season to deal with the consequences of the war and a general denouement instead of just stopping abruptly. Same with Voyager, I don't think we needed another season of that but if they got home in like, episode 20 it would've been better. The best ending of Voyager would've been all the races Janeway pissing off declaring war on the Federation and the last bit is the ending of Starship Troopers only Janeway is narrating. 
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Grand Fromage posted:Eh he's kinda right though. Imagine if DS9 got an eighth season to deal with the consequences of the war and a general denouement instead of just stopping abruptly. Same with Voyager, I don't think we needed another season of that but if they got home in like, episode 20 it would've been better. I don't feel like DS9 needed that though. The show ends with Sisko with the prophets, arguably where he belonged since the show started, and Kira in command of the station. When the show started, she was against the Federation even being there, but having served with Starfleet for seven years, and just wrapping up a field commission as a Starfleet Commander where she used her skills to liberate the homeworld of her former sworn enemies, she was surely in favor of them now. The story came full circle and Federation membership was merely a formality at that point. Charity Porno fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jun 1, 2022 |
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CLAM DOWN posted:this is fat riker erasure gonna take more than that
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CLAM DOWN posted:this is fat riker erasure Oh Vince Clarke hired Frakes?
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zoux posted:What You Leave Behind? Not that I've heard. The whole 10 episode serialization culminating in the finale is the best thing ST has ever done, imo. Yea people hate the fire caves stuff and that sisko leaves I like them but I've heard plenty of times that it's bad. In this thread even!
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Sisko going off outside time to become a Prophet is cool Sisko leaving his wife and unborn sun without a husband and father is... not great. It probably would have been better to not write in the pregnancy
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FlamingLiberal posted:Funny story; that guy wrote a lot of Trek novels And his ex-wife--also a Trek author--made him go on LiveJournal and Facebook and confess to being an addict because he occasionally watched porn. She then kicked him out of the house anyway.
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HD DAD posted:Oh Vince Clarke hired Frakes? Well now I want to hear 'Love to Hate You' on keyboard and trombone.
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The Bloop posted:Sisko going off outside time to become a Prophet is cool This is why he came back and said that he will come back someday. Avery Brooks insisted.
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Peachfart posted:This is why he came back and said that he will come back someday. Avery Brooks insisted. Which was a decent compromise but still not the best thing they could have done Overall I really like the finale arc to DS9, don't get me wrong
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Charity Porno posted:I've never heard anyone complain about the ending. How weird. Neither were as good as the  one, though.As far as the ending of DS9 goes, I just wanted to see the scene where Dukat was on the streets as a blind beggar and what happened for him to get his sight back. There are other scenes that are obviously missing from the final product (how Sisko knows to go to the fire caves, the fire cave finale scene itself being pretty short, some kind of final triumph for Jake to have that isn't just "yeah, he kept writing...") but it doesn't really detract at the end of the day. I would've liked to see Winn pay for her hubris a little more, that actress made me hate her like I hated Geoffrey in Game of Thrones. The link between Odo and the Founder convincing her to change her mind in less than 5 seconds was kinda wild. Like, there's plenty to nitpick but at the end of the day it's not worth calling "a bad ending" for me. And as mentioned before, I loved how it was like 8 episodes of serial television in a row at the end of what was an episodic tv show. DaveKap fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jun 2, 2022 |
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The only part about the DS9 ending that I don't particularly care for is the way they wrapped up the Dukat/Winn storyline. I mean, it got the job done, but both characters lost some of their depth toward the end.
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DaveKap posted:FYI if you're watching on Netflix and not Amazon, they are different and the Amazon one (which I think is Discovery+'s) is better. What's the difference
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Mike the TV posted:What's the difference
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Powered Descent posted:The only part about the DS9 ending that I don't particularly care for is the way they wrapped up the Dukat/Winn storyline. I mean, it got the job done, but both characters lost some of their depth toward the end. One of the other complaints I've heard about the DS9 finale (that I sort of agree with) is the sudden shift tonally between "We've finally won the Dominion War" to "Sisko and Dukat duel in the Fire Caves for the future of Bajor." It happens so quickly that it's kind of jarring.
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The Fire Caves stuff is awful but it's also pretty embarrassing that the best they could manage for the final conflict of the war in the series finale is something almost entirely cobbled together from old footage
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The ending of DS9 focused a bit to much on rehabilitating Damar, and the Bajor stuff was a bit boring, but goddamn it, Ezri was cute, so I don’t really mind. It’s actually been a while since I watched the last season of DS9, but that’s mostly how I remember feeling. Really need to go through the whole series again sometime. I usually end up stopping a few seasons in.
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It’s weird to me that DS9 ended after the first season of Family Guy. Two different eras of television in my head.
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HD DAD posted:It’s weird to me that DS9 ended after the first season of Family Guy. Two different eras of television in my head. That can’t be right, WTF?
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Jake grows up to be Tony Todd anyways so he'll be fine.
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chglcu posted:That can’t be right, WTF? What You Leave Behind aired May 31, 1999. Death Has a Shadow, the pilot episode of Family Guy, aired on January 31, 1999. There was a four month overlap between the two shows.
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chglcu posted:The ending of DS9 focused a bit to much on rehabilitating Damar, and the Bajor stuff was a bit boring, but goddamn it, Ezri was cute, so I don’t really mind. I liked Damar becoming cool
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I could've done without the Ezri/Worf stuff in those final episodes, which I thought was already handled just fine earlier in the season. Surely they could've gotten to the Bashir pairing a better way. Otherwise it's probably the tightest end run and finale in the franchise, fire cave weirdness or not.
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every other species in the galaxy has the dumbest traditional combat weapons
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that was a cute episode i like spock’s future ex-wife
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Hell yeah, pump that soundtrack at the beginning of the epidode directly into my veins. You know the one. Stupidly fun callback that wasn't really out of place, all things considered. Another strong episode, though probably the weakest of what we've seen imo.
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Wee Bairns posted:Hell yeah, pump that soundtrack at the beginning of the epidode directly into my veins. You know the one. Stupidly fun callback that wasn't really out of place, all things considered. I really enjoyed that, it was nice and goofy without going completely overboard, and Spock and T'Pring by their very nature playing the ludicrousness of the situation so straight and restrained was the perfect touch. I think my favorite little touch was when T'Pring got a little frazzled and called Pike Chris instead of Captain, while Spock's every use of "......chris...." seemed so pained  I enjoyed #1 and Singh's b-plot, and the music at the start of the episode was 
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This seemed more like an episode from one of those late 90's rom coms than a Trek, but I deffo give them points for style. It was a nice change of pace from the sturm und drang of last episode. So we FINALLY get to see Starbase One comes complete with Silent Running ecodomes, huh.. the facilities are a long way from Jupiter Station, that's for sure. I was wondering where they hid the siege phasers.. LOL at M'benga's choice of hats
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Wee Bairns posted:Hell yeah, pump that soundtrack at the beginning of the epidode directly into my veins. You know the one. Stupidly fun callback that wasn't really out of place, all things considered. The entire soundtrack was super good, really whimsical at all the right moments.
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