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I'm doing a rewatch of Double or Nothing and saw Moxley with the most non-discreet blade I've seen in years. This is just after he ate the fire extinguisher which must have sealed the cut so he's decided to re-blade. My question to those who know how the industry secrets like this work: Why the hell does he roll into the ring and proceed to put the giant scalpel into his jeans pocket and presumably not use it for the rest of the match (I can't spot any time after it was needed) instead of just tossing it under the ring? It's crazy to me that he/these guys are just getting around the whole match with unsheathed 4 inch scalpels in their pocket instead of utilising a plant/drop point or giving them to/getting them off one of the 10 or so refs that were working this match. 
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Are you sure that's not the fork he was stabbing Daddy Magic with earlier in the match? Hard to tell with shadows but the end closer to his hand looks like it has prongs. I assume you don't throw a blade under the ring so some random stage hand doesn't accidentally grab a used blade. Usually it's a small piece of a razor blade and the ref may collect it after use.
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my wrestling question for the thread is what time is AEW showing Rampage tomorrow? e. also that was Mox with the fork he was using earlier in the match, I think the blade was something else entirely
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Wow, it's the fork? Huh! It full on looks like a prison shiv to me.  
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watching the videos the new aew jp twitter account is putting out to thank followers (https://twitter.com/AEW_jp/media) and KOR mentions he's wrestled in japan. i've watched barely any of this matches and zero from japan; does anyone have some recommendations both in general and from japan specifically?
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Jun 3, 2022 05:18
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You got to watch his match with Shibata from KOPW 2016
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vs kushida bosj finals
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Looten Plunder posted:Blading Stuff I was told during my time you either give the blade to the ref or it goes in your pocket so no marks see what's going on. heck I bladed only once, stuck the thing in the tiny coke pocket of my black denim shorts I called "gear" and forgot about it. found it still in there many months later. most blades are just like a tiny corner of razor blade wrapped up in tape, like 1/8th or less of an inch.. just a sliver of razor sticking out
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mox keeps his blade in his left wrist tape. he isn't exactly subtle about it, but not quite as obvious as using a giant medical scalpel.
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mox sighed as he drew his scalpel
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What's the name of the indi wrestler that does the "softcore" matches with pillows and poo poo?
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Dimebags Brain posted:In the 2016 Dead or Alive cage match in Dragon Gate, Naruki Doi and his heel tag partner YAMATO turned face at the beginning of the match only for him to turn heel and betray YAMATO at the end of the match, so like, 20 minutes. But goddamn I miss YAMADoi, they were probably my favorite tag team ever. flatluigi posted:watching the videos the new aew jp twitter account is putting out to thank followers (https://twitter.com/AEW_jp/media) and KOR mentions he's wrestled in japan. i've watched barely any of this matches and zero from japan; does anyone have some recommendations both in general and from japan specifically?
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Has there been like an "alternate cut" of a match? Or is it pretty much like "whatever was broadcasted is it" Edit: second question, has one wrestler ever debut a new theme song for the express purpose of pissing someone off? Like think Fozzy covering Wild Thing and jericho making it his theme to piss Mox off Sex Farm fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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Sex Farm posted:Has there been like an "alternate cut" of a match? WWE released a bunch of them on the network called Wrestlemania Theatre, they were really good especially the one for the Wrestlemania 30 main. https://watch.wwe.com/episode/Best-of-WrestleMania-Theater-134386 You can get a taste of what it's like with this one (although the Wrestlemania Theatre cuts are the full matches): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pb3NfeykSg Compare with the full match https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpKfdF5S0Cs fez_machine fucked around with this message at 08:56 on Jun 3, 2022 |
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fez_machine posted:WWE released a bunch of them on the network called Wrestlemania Theatre, they were really good especially the one for the Wrestlemania 30 main. These were really cool and wish there was more of them on the network (rip)
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Looten Plunder posted:What's the name of the indi wrestler that does the "softcore" matches with pillows and poo poo? Seth Rollins?
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:mox keeps his blade in his left wrist tape. he isn't exactly subtle about it, but not quite as obvious as using a giant medical scalpel. Yeah it was real easy to see him put it back in his tape on Dynamite (at least on fite) this week, I was even like "c'mon Mox that's two shows in a row you had your gig blade obviously on air"
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Sega 32X posted:Yeah it was real easy to see him put it back in his tape on Dynamite (at least on fite) this week, I was even like "c'mon Mox that's two shows in a row you had your gig blade obviously on air" That one on Dynamite was like RIGHT THERE. lol
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Who was the first wrestler to blade?
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almost definitely pre-tv
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Captain Foo posted:Who was the first wrestler to blade? It has to be someone from like the 20s
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flatluigi posted:almost definitely pre-tv The earliest reference to something akin to blading I can find is Sailor Watkins, who wrestled in the 30s & 40s. He'd use his teeth or fingernails that he grew out to get colour. On his opponent obviously. Actually cutting your own forehead open? Danny McShain is the oldest name I can find, who wrestled from 1930 until the late 60s
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Deliberate cutting probably goes all the way back to the Rossignol-Rollin circus troupe and other music-hall wrestling promotions in 19th century France. There was a match in 1867 where one guy fell on the wooden stairs and got a bloody face. We don't know for certain that it was worked, but since those French promotions had pretty much the same gimmicks and drama as today, it stands to reason that they were working matches with the same kinds of staged disasters.
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Halloween Jack posted:Deliberate cutting probably goes all the way back to the Rossignol-Rollin circus troupe and other music-hall wrestling promotions in 19th century France. There was a match in 1867 where one guy fell on the wooden stairs and got a bloody face. We don't know for certain that it was worked, but since those French promotions had pretty much the same gimmicks and drama as today, it stands to reason that they were working matches with the same kinds of staged disasters. Is there any good resources about very old pro wrestling?
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This person has done a lot of research into old rear end wrestling http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin/.ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=005363
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Cool, thanks!
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have there been any commonly used spots or moves invented by a talent during their stint in WWE/F?
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IIRC, Dynamite Kid innovated both the superplex and the tombstone piledriver variation.
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Pretty sure he was doing those in Stampede though. I *wanna* say that the Stunner is since all of the variations I know of before SCSA were opponent's face to the mat instead of the shoulder (Johnny Ace style).
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EdsTeioh posted:Pretty sure he was doing those in Stampede though. I *wanna* say that the Stunner is since all of the variations I know of before SCSA were opponent's face to the mat instead of the shoulder (Johnny Ace style). i think Mikey Whipwreck's whippersnapper came first
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The People's Elbow has been so widely parodied/imitated that it might count.
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x-pac did a handful of bronco busters as 1-2-3 kid
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Halloween Jack posted:The People's Elbow has been so widely parodied/imitated that it might count. Thats just Mutas flashing elbow though
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Defenestrategy posted:have there been any commonly used spots or moves invented by a talent during their stint in WWE/F? I think Morrisons Starship Pain was innovated in his time there.
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Spuckuk posted:Thats just Mutas flashing elbow though
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Nova, obviously (/sarcasm)
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What's your ideal three person commentary team? My limited experience goes right to prime Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Mike Tenay. King and Ross had a great dynamic but King is really gross.
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I'm trying to think of announcers I liked less than Lawler, and not coming up with anything. Ross, Heenan, and, uh, Mauro Ranallo.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What's your ideal three person commentary team? My limited experience goes right to prime Jim Ross, Bobby Heenan, and Mike Tenay. King and Ross had a great dynamic but King is really gross. Excal, Taz, and Schiavone. If Im allowed to mix and match, excal, taz, and pat macafee might be the best desk for me that never was, because even if the action wasnt great pat would be hyped for the intro and then taz/excal would do their podcast to take us through the rest of it.
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Halloween Jack posted:How many moves has Muta invented that other people have made dozens of variations on? I wonder who holds the record for doing that. It's most likely going to be one of the Joshis from the 90s.
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