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I really think it's that one time that Preston got his patreons to pay for him to meet gurm and ask him a question and Preston tried to fish out some details about one of his theories by asking about some scene from the books and Gurm was like "Ugh, I don't know, sounds like you thought about that whole thing way more than I did, nerd" (only slightly embellished), before that he used to assume so much intention and deliberation into every letter gurm wrote but afterwards he pretty much stopped publishing his outlandish theory videos and adopted a much more sarcastic (and far more entertaining!) tone about the whole thing.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I really think it's that one time that Preston got his patreons to pay for him to meet gurm and ask him a question and Preston tried to fish out some details about one of his theories by asking about some scene from the books and Gurm was like "Ugh, I don't know, sounds like you thought about that whole thing way more than I did, nerd" (only slightly embellished), before that he used to assume so much intention and deliberation into every letter gurm wrote but afterwards he pretty much stopped publishing his outlandish theory videos and adopted a much more sarcastic (and far more entertaining!) tone about the whole thing. I saw a Shatner interview where he said that a fan asked him a question at a convention "there was a safe in episode XX that you opened, what was the combination to the safe" and Shatner was baffled by that question so many ways.
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Jun 10, 2022 20:05
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Preston's actually been kind of negative on GRRM's writing progress since at least Season 6 of the show, citing that "George could have typed <x> words per day and he would have reached the word count of Dance." I remember a lot more Ice and Fire people being optimistic even past the show's finale.
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Jun 10, 2022 21:21
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The point he made about Fire and Blood was kind of interesting--I think it shows that the publishers aren't just sitting there waiting on Winds. Well, I mean they are, but they're also saying, "Hey, we know you're working, but we still need something from you in the meantime since it's been like, 7 years since you finished Dance."
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Jun 10, 2022 22:34
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Happy Landfill posted:The point he made about Fire and Blood was kind of interesting--I think it shows that the publishers aren't just sitting there waiting on Winds. Well, I mean they are, but they're also saying, "Hey, we know you're working, but we still need something from you in the meantime since it's been like, 7 years since you finished Dance." I think you fundamentally misunderstand the relationship. George Rape, the other R is also for Rape, Martin is worth enough money that the amount he gets from publishing another book isn't very important, but to the publisher, it's hugely important. Anything he shits out at this point they are going to take from him. I'm sure they are trying to job him to finish the blockbuster series, but what, if they demand his advance fee back he'll just pay it back. And then he'll be pissed and publish with someone else. He's worth enough money that nobody can ever stop him from eating lemoncakes on his loving personal railroad car. The publisher has no power over him.
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Jun 10, 2022 23:03
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Yeah I think George's publisher is competing against his squirellish attention span that wants to go and advise people on costumes, casting, and lore while hanging out in a social environment as opposed to spending his twilight years locked in a room with emulated Wordpro and A Change of Heart by Golden Avatar or whatever he listens to playing on repeat in the background as he writes a scene where someone eats a woman's tit.
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Jun 10, 2022 23:19
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:Yeah I think George's publisher is competing against his squirellish attention span that wants to go and advise people on costumes, casting, and lore while hanging out in a social environment as opposed to spending his twilight years locked in a room with emulated Wordpro and A Change of Heart by Golden Avatar or whatever he listens to playing on repeat in the background. They just have no leverage. A million dollars is a big deal if you're net worth is between -100,000 to 5,000,000. If you're worth 120,000,000 it's loving meaningless. Even another 5 million dollars is meaningless. What is he going to do, ride two railroads at once?
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Jun 10, 2022 23:22
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Might as well just get The Expanse guys to finish it, since one of them used to be his personal assistant or something. 
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Jun 10, 2022 23:26
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Also whatever financial penalties the publisher might have on him are pocket change now.
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Jun 11, 2022 00:16
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Happy Landfill posted:Might as well just get The Expanse guys to finish it, since one of them used to be his personal assistant or something. Ty Franck said specifically that the time for that has past, but I think his attitude would change with the amounts of zeroes that they would draw on a check. The only living author I can think of that could finish the series in their lifetime is maybe Christopher Buehlman.
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Jun 11, 2022 00:51
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:The only living author I can think of that could finish the series in their lifetime is maybe Christopher Buehlman. Christian Cameron could do it, he writes at an unbelievable pace, but his  would explode into flames at trying to deal with how implausible GRRM's setting and characters are.
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Jun 11, 2022 01:13
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:Ty Franck said specifically that the time for that has past, but I think his attitude would change with the amounts of zeroes that they would draw on a check. The only living author I can think of that could finish the series in their lifetime is maybe Christopher Buehlman. Ty absolutely wrote most of the books. Just like GRRM needed the two nazi megafans to do the history books after Ty was gone.
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Jun 11, 2022 01:30
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I honestly expected Preston to take the path of “he continues to endlessly rewrite the book” so I’m pleasantly surprised that he recognized that GRRM is just a lazy rear end in a top hat and until Covid there were no pages.
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Jun 11, 2022 03:13
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I honestly expected Preston to take the path of “he continues to endlessly rewrite the book” so I’m pleasantly surprised that he recognized that GRRM is just a lazy rear end in a top hat and until Covid there were no pages. incredibly optimistic post believing that after covid there are pages
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Jun 11, 2022 03:29
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Jazerus posted:incredibly optimistic post believing that after covid there are pages Well by Preston’s guess he went from 0 pages except those cut from the last two books to 400 ishnew pages. Which means he still needs like another 600 new pages to actually get a full book which lmao that’s not happening.
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Jun 11, 2022 03:55
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Preston doesn't know poo poo. GRRM has no new pages.
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Jun 11, 2022 04:36
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okay, fine maybe he wrote the sex scenes
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Jun 11, 2022 05:41
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Where's the link to the audiobook reading of Dany making GBS threads in the field. I've got a friend who started to rewatch GoT with a family member in this year of 2022 and they refused to believe that it was the last word on Dany.
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Jun 11, 2022 06:19
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mind the walrus posted:Where's the link to the audiobook reading of Dany making GBS threads in the field. I've got a friend who started to rewatch GoT with a family member in this year of 2022 and they refused to believe that it was the last word on Dany. I was also looking for this the other day. EDIT: only found it after typing in "the more she shat": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKhGqWcJGY&t=1s
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Jun 11, 2022 06:32
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gently caress me I typed that in. DuckDuckGo still has a ways to go apparently.
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Jun 11, 2022 08:00
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I used to think Winds would get finished but that he'd die or just flat out give up writing before finishing the last one. But now I'm honestly not sure if he'll even finish Winds.
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I find it’s much better for ones mental health to just assume that he will never finish another book again, and truly believe that to be the case. That’s about where I stand at the moment on the whole goddamn mess. I not only have no expectation of TWOW’s completion, I’ve also given up all hope on ever seeing another Dunk & Egg story, nor the second part of Fire & Blood. The nice thing is that if any of the above ever do get released, I can be legitimately pleasantly surprised and enjoy them without salt or rancor about years of unfulfilled expectations. poo poo’s always more enjoyable when it comes as a surprise, even if it’s something you’ve been low-key waiting for. Like David Lynch and Twin Peaks - that’s a fantastic example. We all knew Twin Peaks was unfinished and left hanging for decades, but nobody had any legit expectation that Lynch would ever REALLY come back to it - if he did it’d be great, and we all wanted him to, but nobody expected it. I sure as hell didn’t. And that made the actual experience of Twin Peaks: The Return so much better and more meaningful when it did finally happen, for me. So, similarly I stopped expecting or hoping anything at all relating to this series about… 4-5 years ago? Sometime during season 7 of the TV show, which incidentally aired at the same time as Season 3 of Twin Peaks, so that was summer 2017.
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Coquito Ergo Sum posted:Yeah I think George's publisher is competing against his squirellish attention span that wants to go and advise people on costumes, casting, and lore while hanging out in a social environment as opposed to spending his twilight years locked in a room with emulated Wordpro and A Change of Heart by Golden Avatar or whatever he listens to playing on repeat in the background as he writes a scene where someone eats a woman's tit. When I think of grrms publisher contact - I think of Homelander's scheduler and handler on The Boyz. pseudanonymous posted:They just have no leverage. A million dollars is a big deal if you're net worth is between -100,000 to 5,000,000. I didn't think that was a serious number. holy poo poo. good for him, the old fat gently caress. I'll bet he has the best rape dungeon he ever could have imagined. how does he not have a new wife / sex toy? Does he have a weird open marriage with Parris?
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I coulda sworn he made like a billion dollars but I might just be mixing him up with the other fat gently caress nerd George Lucas.
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Jun 13, 2022 18:03
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If he was a billionaire he'd have just bought off the Albuquerque city council so they'd let him build his castle.
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Santa Fe is exactly the right kind of rich enough that they'd find pretending to stand up to another rich person on principle to be worth more than any amount of money he could give them.
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Jun 14, 2022 02:02
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The rights to ASOIAF are worth a pittance compared to Star Wars
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Yeah, I mean what does ASOIAF really have as a property? A TV series that's half-awful, an unfinished book series, some coffee table books, and a bunch of garbage games and about 200,000 "I drink and I know things" t-shirts that have been sitting in an HBO warehouse since 2019.
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pseudanonymous posted:I saw a Shatner interview where he said that a fan asked him a question at a convention "there was a safe in episode XX that you opened, what was the combination to the safe" and Shatner was baffled by that question so many ways. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmagzq
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Invalid Validation posted:I coulda sworn he made like a billion dollars but I might just be mixing him up with the other fat gently caress nerd George Lucas. Lucas is nowhere near as creepy as GURM (Is there anything creepy about him? Maybe the costumes in ANH?) Also, Lucas finished his story, and was totally cool with other authors adding to it (The old EU). I'm glad I follow this thread and found that Medieval History blog that basically pointed out GOT is early modern history-adjacent, not medieval-adjacent.
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Jun 14, 2022 15:38
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it's very early early-modern but yes. i would place it pre-discovery of the new world but still firmly in the mid-late 1400s
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Jun 14, 2022 15:53
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It's not really any specific era at all, the knights in armour stuff is pre 1400, the outfits he describes trend post-Renaissance, the sensibilities of the characters are very modern as described in that one essay that argues GoT is secretly about Hollywood politics. There's also a huge amount of ocean trade (age of sail) but somehow this barely matters to the setting. I'm not saying it's bad worldbuilding or anything, not wanting to deal with things like gunpowder and trade routes is pretty normal for fantasy. It's just extremely far from anything historical.
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Lucas is nowhere near as creepy as GURM (Is there anything creepy about him? Maybe the costumes in ANH?) During the brainstorming for the first Indiana Jones he wanted to include a particularly creepy bit of backstory. Indy had gotten in legal trouble years before for statutory raping Marian, and that was what estranged him from her father who was mentoring him. Spielberg talked him out of it. That kind of stood out to me as pretty messed up. Other than that, I haven't heard anything.
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Jun 14, 2022 16:05
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Pretty sure Marian still has a line that says she was like sixteen when Indy and her were together Ugh
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You don’t get to be a billionaire without being a creep on some level.
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DaysBefore posted:Pretty sure Marian still has a line that says she was like sixteen when Indy and her were together Indiana Jones is a "hero" in so far that his enemies are the Nazis and a human-sacrificing cult so the series just kinda glosses over the whole "this guy's a grave robber who happily will steal cultural artifacts if it suits him" thing, or his victim-blaming of Marian in Raiders of the Lost Ark.
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pseudanonymous posted:They just have no leverage. A million dollars is a big deal if you're net worth is between -100,000 to 5,000,000. He's got gently caress You Money. When you have enough money, someone asks you do to something, you just tell them 'gently caress You' and don't do it. They can't do poo poo to materially impact your life in response. What leverage do they have? He's poo poo on any legacy he might have spectacularly on his own with stuff like that Hugo awards presentation.
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Just saw on YouTube the clip where gurm is asked about the South park episode that features him and the take is that gurm is so thin skinned that his spouse and inner circle preview media that mentions him and then deliberate whether gurm can take it or whether it will throw into an even more catatonic state and that other than that he finds it very very important that people will know that he actually doesn't like weiners, he profusely exclaims his love for boobies like a teenage boy whose friends just called gay, it really is amazing that he can (could) write compelling characters that aren't flat cliches when he's so childlike and detached.
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Almost like someone else wrote those characters (I'm now all in on the Ty conspiracy now because hell, why not)
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I'm massively anti-Ty conspiracy because the prose in the Expanse is so mediocre. I could maybe see him contributing to plotting but actual writing? No loving way.
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