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I am working on tier 3 science now in COI and looped clear around to too much diesel. Need more coproducts. I'm never going to fertilize anything at this rate. I guess I should be limiting my excitement until I get to literal Haber process plus natural gas reformation.
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Jack Trades posted:Train signals but in space when There's probably a Kerbal mod, ask in the KSP thread
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Jack Trades posted:Train signals but in space when Train signals but in 4 dimensions where you need to place signals through time as well as 3D space
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Jun 12, 2022 00:03
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:weird question but of all the unabashed Factorio clones which one is closest to Factorio as such None of them are close. It's like asking what 0451 is closest to Deus Ex. DSP is probably the closest in terms of being a good game, although personally I can't stand playing it because the building mechanics are just awful in DSP. The real answer is just play Factorio mods. Or put yourself into a coma for 5 years until Wube releases the expansion.
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Jun 12, 2022 00:20
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zedprime posted:I am working on tier 3 science now in COI and looped clear around to too much diesel. Need more coproducts. I'm never going to fertilize anything at this rate. I guess I should be limiting my excitement until I get to literal Haber process plus natural gas reformation. I'm at the same point right now. It looks like you could also plant extra wheat and turn that into organic fertilizer, but I haven't done the math on whether that's worth doing over just planting more of the product you want to have. Also, what's the point of the wheat into biofuel recipe? Unless I'm missing something, it looks like the potato recipe is just better in every way despite wheat being higher tech and having better options if you just want to get rid of any excess you have.
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Jun 12, 2022 00:34
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Put the finishing touches on a Distillation Stage 1 > 2 > 3 refinery straight from the dock and ending with a massive power plant fueled by Fuel Gas (at the moment), which just about doubled my max power capacity and should ideally be more stable than my old setup. I buried my pipelines for the first time doing this and it worked really well and looks great, definitely going to do this for long pipelines instead of building ramps moving forward.  While I was working on this I completely failed to realize that my unity was in the negative and actually completely ran out because I'm used to rushing all the construction now. Everything almost came to a complete stop but I had a ton of buildings unity-ified so I undid those and was back in the green. Things just stop working when there's no unity, apparently!
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So I played a bunch of Riftbreaker and it was fun. Is there anything else similar to it? Preferably not in EA. Factorio obviously is great but a bit too brain intensive for what I feel like playing right now. I just wanna plop down buildings and then kill stuff.
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Jun 12, 2022 07:32
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Jack Trades posted:Train signals but in space when I legit would love if once they got DSP to 1.0 they started adding other megastructures (And maybe fission power). Create warp gates to shorten travel distances between distant stars. Or maybe planet crackers to rip apart planets. Add asteroid belts that you have to build mining platforms to strip since they're too small for the Icarus/default buildings. Heck, I'd even pay for them if they were $5-10 DLCs. The developers need to eat too after all.
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Jun 12, 2022 08:03
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Why isn't there a Galaxy Express 999 management sim
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Tried Sweet Transit. A++ sound track. Couldn't figure out how to make the game accept a cross junction as valid to travel across even though I actually understand Factorio's and Satisfactory's implementations.
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explosivo posted:Put the finishing touches on a Distillation Stage 1 > 2 > 3 refinery straight from the dock and ending with a massive power plant fueled by Fuel Gas (at the moment), which just about doubled my max power capacity and should ideally be more stable than my old setup. I buried my pipelines for the first time doing this and it worked really well and looks great, definitely going to do this for long pipelines instead of building ramps moving forward. Does pipe flow work like Factorio where longer pipe = reduced throughput, or can you just make a huge pipeline to get the fuel to the middle of the map instead of having it at the coast where the refineries tend to be? e: answering my own question: I don't think it will be an issue here. The problem in Factorio is that each piece of pipe is its own fluid box with the same capacity. But in CoI, all pipe segments get added together, so a long pipe will take a while to fill up, but once it gets going, you should get the full throughput. Tamba fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Jun 12, 2022 |
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Yeah and because of that if you really need to, you can use a snaky pipe as a small buffer.
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I might have just barely avoided losing another map now (at least it looks like I've managed to stabilize again just in time  ).If you set a cargo dock module to upgrade, but it's waiting for the parts, it will still unload from the current load on the ship, but the next time the ship goes out, it won't fetch anything for that module. Which is problematic if you need that oil to keep...everything running.
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Man, CoI is just so got dang good. I haven't done the 'stay up until 2am accidentally because I was so engrossed' thing in a while but there's just always so much to do and the game really has that ant farm thing where I just get lost watching stuff work. I hope they're able to get random maps in there at some point. I'd also love to see multiple buildable islands so the exporting/importing game is a little more involved than it is now; being able to set up secondary manufacturing islands to keep pollution away from your population a la Anno would be very awesome.
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Here are some lists from Steam regarding management games that folks might be interested in. https://club.steam250.com/tag/255534 (Top automation games) https://steam250.com/tag/base_building (Top base building games) https://steam250.com/tag/crafting (Top crafting games Of course there is some overlap. If people think these links are valuable I can add them to the OP.
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Mayveena posted:Here are some lists from Steam regarding management games that folks might be interested in. I got a thesis to do goddammit, I can't just disappear and become a games hermit for months ........can I?
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explosivo posted:Man, CoI is just so got dang good. I haven't done the 'stay up until 2am accidentally because I was so engrossed' thing in a while but there's just always so much to do and the game really has that ant farm thing where I just get lost watching stuff work. I hope they're able to get random maps in there at some point. I'd also love to see multiple buildable islands so the exporting/importing game is a little more involved than it is now; being able to set up secondary manufacturing islands to keep pollution away from your population a la Anno would be very awesome. I think that's what it wants to be but also just looking at the roadmap and what 2 people could reasonably do its something I would not expect before 2030.
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zedprime posted:If CoI went full Anno I think it would supplant Workers and Resources as my desert island/conceptually perfect forever game. Yeah I am not expecting many big changes like that based on what I've seen on the roadmap.
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Can anyone recommend a good youtuber to learn CoI from? Thanks.
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Jun 12, 2022 18:56
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Mayveena posted:Can anyone recommend a good youtuber to learn CoI from? Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cnmzq5wcI8 Edit: Long rear end vids tho so if you're looking for short tutorials I don't have an answer sorry
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explosivo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cnmzq5wcI8 That's fine thanks much! Prolly spend most of tomorrow watching their videos. Today is for board gaming 
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Nilaus is the opposite of Orbital Potato in that he is good at tutorializing and pays attention to ratio and making making everything look orderly and make sense whereas OP is also good but is more slapdash and embraces the spaghetti. Edit: I like watching both to get two very different but working views on how to basebuild.
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Those of you who loved Shipbreaker, were you playing with controllers or keyboard/mouse? I got very frustrated with the latter and refunded.
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Fhqwhgads posted:Nilaus is the opposite of Orbital Potato in that he is good at tutorializing and pays attention to ratio and making making everything look orderly and make sense whereas OP is also good but is more slapdash and embraces the spaghetti.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Those of you who loved Shipbreaker, were you playing with controllers or keyboard/mouse? I got very frustrated with the latter and refunded. KB & Mouse. Worked fine for me though you have to get used to the inertia and pointer drift when aiming but IMO it makes sense in the context of the game.
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JD also does videos on CoI tutorial playlist Let's play
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Those of you who loved Shipbreaker, were you playing with controllers or keyboard/mouse? I got very frustrated with the latter and refunded. KB+M, although I was still occasionally mixing up 'up' and 'forward' even on the last ship I cracked.
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My biggest problem was losing my orientation occasionally, but that got better the more I played. The movement controls are pretty standard 6dof controls, except maybe the control key to brake.
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I did it. So how do prioritization work for burners hooked up to the same line? Can I put the fuel gas/heavy oil burners on priority 1 and the coal ones on priority 2 and will that make the coal burners kick in automatically when they notice a drop in steam?
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Priorities are for power (usage or supply) and truck deliveries only. To get preferential use of different fuel sources with pipes you need to use pipe balancers which let you select priority lines in and out. Ex. your coal steam header goes into bottom right balancer, your oil products steam header goes into top left balancer, you set priority on top left, and all steam comes out the top right. It'll use steam from the top left unless it can't at which point it'll pull from the bottom right causing preferential use. 
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Loving that priorization GUI.
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Yeah it is great. It just needs the ability to rank each one based on priority instead of just 'high priority or not' and it'd be perfect
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zedprime posted:Priorities are for power (usage or supply) and truck deliveries only. That image makes my brain light up.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:If I hear “Nilaus tore down a quarter of his factory and rebuilt it because it was one pixel off” my first thought would be “yes, of course he did. No need to mention that.”
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Just simply make all the pixels off and they will line back up.
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By the way the devs are already working on a way to label the pipes somehow. That’ll be helpful.
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WithoutTheFezOn posted:By the way the devs are already working on a way to label the pipes somehow. That’ll be helpful. Oh thank god. I keep having to plug new things into my distillery setup and just spent a ton of time figuring out what pipe was sending Naphta into my fuel lines.
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explosivo posted:Oh thank god. I keep having to plug new things into my distillery setup and just spent a ton of time figuring out what pipe was sending Naphta into my fuel lines. I inadvertently sent naptha into my fuel gas pipes and spent a good 10 minutes trying to unclog that mess. Current problem is that my workers are all getting sick and taking time off work and my island is dying due to healthcare benefits.
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Grimson posted:I inadvertently sent naptha into my fuel gas pipes and spent a good 10 minutes trying to unclog that mess. Yeah Health is rapidly becoming an issue on my island as well. I just unlocked the Clinic so bringing Plastic online to start making Medical Supplies has been a priority for me.
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There's something poetic about the factory causing people to die and the only way to help them is to expand the factory.
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