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Hey uh Urbek has a very good soundtrack. Game seems pretty chill so far. Edit: Kinda neat, instead of managing income and dollary-doos like most city builders you're producing/consuming various resources based on your expansion and it's more about managing those numbers instead of cash flow. Orbital Potato just put up a new video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhnWIGDVmZk explosivo fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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I’m going to give Astroneer another shot with trains. I love the aesthetics and a lot of it’s “style” but it had just a few hangups for me playing (gosh, maybe years ago) now around not having much interesting to do beyond exploring. Which is fun, but I need, as someone here described it, a sort of “creative phase” to a game where I can kind of make it my own and Astroneer for awhile felt pretty sparse on that beyond what arrangement I wanted my few machines in. But trains. I love trains.
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If you're coming back to astroneer after a few years, one warning I'd give you is that at some point the game gives you a xenobiology lab, and once you unpack it it can't be moved.
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for $15, urbek is worth a spin for me, i'm enjoying it so far, i do like how it's less about turning everything into money and then using money to do everything, you build up and spend resources and increase the max, and more advanced structures require tradeoffs and whatnot seems like you'll be shifting things around and doing a lot of territory crunching to figure out how to boost things and continue growth and fitting everything together, i dig it so far
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Jul 13, 2022 16:23
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The only criticism I have on Urbek so far is that the tiny (sometimes microscopic) patches of desert and snow just make your city look uglier, particularly when there's no mountains to 'justify' the snow. Elevation change in terrain would have been nice to get the Full Chile Experience™, but I understand it'd be a real bitch to build around (much like in real life  ). You're better off deactivating the snow and/or desert on the map generator screen and having different cities set on snowy and desert biomes.Also some of the english names for a few buildings are kind of awkward but that's understandable for a ESL dev.
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Are the other Urbek maps larger than in the demo? Because that map was kind of ridiculously tiny.
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It'd be cool if there were advanced ways to change desert/snow/mountain tiles
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Btw you can Alt+Left Click to replace one building with another when building, so you don't need to bulldoze and then build the new building if you want to replace something. They cover this in the tutorial but it's easy to miss. I'm watching Orbital Potato not do this in his video (also getting mad at the game for not understanding what 2x2 means) and I'm sure other people missed it too. explosivo fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jul 13, 2022 |
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Jul 13, 2022 17:36
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Anime Store Adventure posted:I’m going to give Astroneer another shot with trains. I love the aesthetics and a lot of it’s “style” but it had just a few hangups for me playing (gosh, maybe years ago) now around not having much interesting to do beyond exploring. Which is fun, but I need, as someone here described it, a sort of “creative phase” to a game where I can kind of make it my own and Astroneer for awhile felt pretty sparse on that beyond what arrangement I wanted my few machines in. Be sure to do the missions, otherwise you’ll miss a bunch of stuff including the trains. They are fairly easy and make sense.
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The way that buildings "evolve" in Urbek is very neat; it's sorta puzzley if you're trying to find out how to get from one building to another for the tutorial but it's neat having one "house" residential building that upgrades through a branching path of house types automatically depending on where you put it. Like the way fishing houses pop up automatically if you build on a tile next to water or the houses within a few tiles of the iron mine turning into poor apartment complexes for the miners, it's just really neat to see. There's a local bar that grows as the density around it increases as well so I guess it's not just limited to residential options.
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Ah excellent - because I already own Theotown there's a bundle to get Urbek down to a tenner. For that money I might grab it. Anyone tried the Kairosofts? Dream House DX is on sale and I don't know how bad the port is.
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I hosed up my whole city 2/3rds into the Urbek's tutorial, and it was my fault and not the tutorial's. Game's good.
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My question is if Urbek is a single play-through game or one where you'll come back to it repeatedly.
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xzzy posted:My question is if Urbek is a single play-through game or one where you'll come back to it repeatedly. I'm only two hours into the game but I'm already seeing that there are 3 distinct mutually exclusive progression paths that you can pick between. Then there are 5 different maps, which probably have unique challenges. Then there's a bunch of difficulty settings, if that's your jam. Plus, you also have to not gently caress up your planning during your first run and doom your whole city into looking like Detroit, like I did.
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Jack Trades posted:I'm only two hours into the game but I'm already seeing that there are 3 distinct mutually exclusive progression paths that you can pick between. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F48MyBnJo4s Based solely on discussion and screenshots in this thread I have purchased Urbek, a game I did not know existed before yesterday.
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Urbek seems neat but I'm slightly bothered by the fact that one of the tracks seems to be a library track that I've heard in like every third episode of Jimquistion.
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Urbek reminded me too much of Kingdoms and Castles, not to mention the fact I've barely started Captain of Industry and have a lot to do in Astroneer. Y'all have fun with it 
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Clanfolk is out for $17.99! https://store.steampowered.com/app/1700870/Clanfolk/ Rimworld style game except instead of combat you fight against the elements, as well as instead of a tech tree you unlock stuff by discovery. Little breakdown of the differences quote:
Also, might be a loose fit here, but Dinkum is also out! (Animal Crossing like game mixed with Stardew Valley by the looks of it) https://store.steampowered.com/app/1062520/Dinkum/ Harminoff fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Jul 14, 2022 |
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Will be interested to hear what people think of Clanfolk. Rimworld-but-Sims is what I was thinking about last time I played RimWorld.
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So it turns out that in Astroneer, the rails carry power. This has a significant impact on the game. I'll let you Astoneer players work through this. Gonna start slow myself.
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Urbek is dangerous for me, today was the second day I basically forget everything including eating while trying to puzzle everything together. My first winning city!  You really have to make sure you get a proper, dense city core, otherwise the end game will be impossible. Definitely put farming and industry towards the edges to avoid the slums limiting density in the city core.
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the "need x in range but not too much y" mechanic is interesting. It's the same NIMBY concept that all city builders have used since the original, but they hard coded it in a way where you actually gotta plan it out beforehand. Other games are much more passive. It's a cool puzzle mechanic how they did it in this game.
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I open palm slammed Against The Storm after seeing Potato M whisky's vid on it. I have an addiction to accessing incomplete games. Seems nice so far idk
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I'm also finding Urbek really addicting so far, and might actually have trouble going back to the SimCity RCI zoning money-go-up style of city builder after this. Buildings dynamically evolving based on adjacencies is a simple system that really should be in more games. It makes city growth feel organic, despite the game technically being pretty abstract. Like how you can tell where to invest in public transportation because in its absence buildings will naturally "upgrade" into worthless parking lots. It's brilliant.
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Another little thing I enjoy is how the late-stage commercial buildings provide food services and tools on their own, removing the need for the suburban market buildings inside the city core.
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Is a "Square Condominium" just a really botched translation for that thing in Urbek or does it change into something later that makes more sense? The thing looks like a jungle gym/playground. I was confused as hell when it was talking about placing a "Sq. Condominium" in the tutorial because I assumed it was a housing upgrade and was trying to find out how to evolve a house into a square condominium but it's a separate leisure building. There were other iffy translations so I just assumed this was the case.
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Mayveena posted:Urbek reminded me too much of Kingdoms and Castles, not to mention the fact I've barely started Captain of Industry and have a lot to do in Astroneer. Y'all have fun with it Speaking of COI I made a bit of a discovery. Playing Curland (the big, mostly flat, curled island map) and I started dumping around the edges of my starting iron deposit to create sea walls and hopefully avoid "stray sea tiles" when I eventually got into digging it out. Well turns out that metal deposits can extend into the ocean: Layer view just won't display them until the water on top has been displaced.
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For anyone still playing Surviving the Aftermath: what's the deal with Outhouses? Clearly I need to address hygiene needs, but since the outhouse becomes a pollution source, which gets tracked around by colonists, I'm puzzled where to put it. Right by a maintenance shed so the janitors constantly keep it clean and stop pollution spirals? Or right by pollution sites since it's already hosed?
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toasterwarrior posted:Or right by pollution sites since it's already hosed? This Is Not A Place Of Handwashing
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toasterwarrior posted:For anyone still playing Surviving the Aftermath: what's the deal with Outhouses? Clearly I need to address hygiene needs, but since the outhouse becomes a pollution source, which gets tracked around by colonists, I'm puzzled where to put it. Right by a maintenance shed so the janitors constantly keep it clean and stop pollution spirals? Or right by pollution sites since it's already hosed? By the mainenance shed, a bit outside of the main paths is better, i think. You don't want it completely out of the way to waste people's time, but you don't want everybody wading through the poop several times a day either
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explosivo posted:Is a "Square Condominium" just a really botched translation for that thing in Urbek or does it change into something later that makes more sense? The thing looks like a jungle gym/playground. I was confused as hell when it was talking about placing a "Sq. Condominium" in the tutorial because I assumed it was a housing upgrade and was trying to find out how to evolve a house into a square condominium but it's a separate leisure building. There were other iffy translations so I just assumed this was the case. Yeah, it's a TL issue. "square" is there in the "plaza, public area" sense rather than a shape, and "condominium" in the "flats" sense rather than in the "flats for people who can afford to own but prefer being urbanites"; "apartment commons" would hit closer. Very fun game, and I hope the reactive rebuilding takes off across the genre. Tutorial's a little underbaked, both in terms of prompting you to do things you can't do yet and in prompting you to do things you don't actually want to do yet (lots of the later buildings are instant economy killers without some extracurriculars in); also, both in tutorial terms and in straight tile types which is a bigger longterm issue for balance, it also runs into issues where it's trying to let you be freeform but you can just straight lock yourself out of steps without warning apparently? Thinking the orchards where if you go down the list, put up a city hall, and go "actually modern agriculture sounds good", your orchard design is at best going to have to incorporate CO2 scrubbers which somehow deal with the nitrogen runoff. On the plus side, the "have it or you don't" nature of pretty much everything but iron means that it's no huge loss to just bulldoze whatever bad choice you were asked to make. Numbers also seem a little wonky for some of the goals, think "three fully-outfitted universities for a couple square kilometers for something we've asked you to build full low-ed industrial thus far". Lolling, lmaoing, etc, though at the game obviously made by enthusiastic anarchists making placing their bookshops and bars the work of the unquestionable zoning god, accumulating self-governance points toward plopping new buildings as the will of the (by aesthetic) comprador state. There's an absolutely fascinating swing a game like this could have by applying the rebuild logic to alter the opinions of the populace instead of just "cool things if you gather enough red/black mana". One which would probably even meet whatever pedagogical goals they have given that you can't import food.
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Burning Rain posted:By the mainenance shed, a bit outside of the main paths is better, i think. You don't want it completely out of the way to waste people's time, but you don't want everybody wading through the poop several times a day either Cheers, this is working out pretty well!
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The only thing Urbek badly needs, IMO, is a warning ever 6th month to change a law. I always forget and then have to sit there and wait to be able to apply several laws.
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Harminoff posted:Clanfolk is out for $17.99! Looks very cool, I'm thinking of buying it but, you know, early access. Reviews are pretty good though
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Another Surviving the Aftermath question, if it's not a bother: does it matter what Specialist I convert into a Settler? Will they only be able to build the outpost type of their namesake, if that's a thing? Or am I free to get rid of unoptimal Specialists through outpost settlements?
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toasterwarrior posted:Another Surviving the Aftermath question, if it's not a bother: does it matter what Specialist I convert into a Settler? Will they only be able to build the outpost type of their namesake, if that's a thing? Or am I free to get rid of unoptimal Specialists through outpost settlements? [Edit] I remember having the same doubts, because some Specialists had backstories painting them as lone wolfs or sociopaths. The game just doesn't give a gently caress. Wipfmetz fucked around with this message at 13:12 on Jul 15, 2022 |
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Cool, thank you very much!
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Mandoric posted:. Tutorial's a little underbaked, both in terms of prompting you to do things you can't do yet and in prompting you to do things you don't actually want to do yet (lots of the later buildings are instant economy killers without some extracurriculars in); Yeah I got screwed by this last night right around the phase where steelworks were needed because my labor force was just sucked up dry by it. Everything basically became abandoned ruins overnight and I was completely hosed. Probably starting over with the tutorial disabled next time since I think I get the gist of it.
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Yeah the Urbek tutorial tells you to try to build all the weird dead end housing evolutions, like Religious Neighborhood, slums, mansions. They can be useful for specific purposes, but probably not something you definitely want around in large numbers if the goal is just to complete the tech tree on a default map. Skip them until you need them, or if you want the specific aesthetic. On the other hand, fishing is extremely good and filling all your shore with fishing communities is huge for food production.
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toasterwarrior posted:Another Surviving the Aftermath question, if it's not a bother: does it matter what Specialist I convert into a Settler? Will they only be able to build the outpost type of their namesake, if that's a thing? Or am I free to get rid of unoptimal Specialists through outpost settlements? turning specialists into settlers is the ultimate fate of your less good specialists. 6AP? off you go to settle. 8 damage? goodbye
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