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The 'sick sticks' in Minority Report were a very effective submission tool, but drat what a loving mess to clean up every time some cop want to get his torture on.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:The 'sick sticks' in Minority Report were a very effective submission tool, but drat what a loving mess to clean up every time some cop want to get his torture on. never saw that movie, but if it makes you vomit and poo poo, they do the same thing to you in prison with the food today, so i could see that being a realistic scenario
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RBA Starblade posted:Basically all of them end in a send-in-the-clones plot in increasingly convoluted ways Hitman 2 still has you pulling jobs for the brother of one of 47's "fathers", and the entire last quarter of the game has returning games of cat-and-mouse between 47 and the last of the 48's. It also gave us that one mission in India and St. Petersburg revisited, which to me are some of the best missions in classic Hitman.
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Speaking of clones: literally everything about the “Jurassic World” series of Jurassic Etc movies. The moment you introduce Clone Drama (tm) into your series, my respect for you immediately drops into the negatives.
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But…that’s what Jurassic Park is about too??
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General Battuta posted:But…that’s what Jurassic Park is about too?? No, no, no, that was clone horror. Clone drama would of been if the dinosaurs suddenly started getting into soap opera'esq romantic and family situations. Which alas is a film we never got to see. 
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dr_rat posted:No, no, no, that was clone horror. Clone drama would of been if the dinosaurs suddenly started getting into soap opera'esq romantic and family situations. I would accept that, if only because I suspect velociraptors resolve soap opera esque situations by eating faces.
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dr_rat posted:No, no, no, that was clone horror. Clone drama would of been if the dinosaurs suddenly started getting into soap opera'esq romantic and family situations. this sounds fuckin awesome
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dr_rat posted:No, no, no, that was clone horror. Clone drama would of been if the dinosaurs suddenly started getting into soap opera'esq romantic and family situations. Here's clone romantic drama: https://store.steampowered.com/app/949060/Love_Thyself__A_Horatio_Story/
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dr_rat posted:if the dinosaurs suddenly started getting into soap opera'esq romantic and family situations. Not the mama!
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dr_rat posted:No, no, no, that was clone horror. Clone drama would of been if the dinosaurs suddenly started getting into soap opera'esq romantic and family situations. So in that movie Multiplicity with Michael Keaton, in the end the original hunts down and murders his clones, right?
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Jun 23, 2022 01:47
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Absoluute worst? Star Trek having NO loving surge protectors on the bridge. Seriously, consoles explode in showers of sparks every time someone glares at a Fed ship?
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imperiusdamian posted:Absoluute worst? Star Trek having NO loving surge protectors on the bridge. Seriously, consoles explode in showers of sparks every time someone glares at a Fed ship? Well you see it's ughhhh quantum entangled power generation so there's no way since it just magically goes from generator to console. Why don't we put it into some buffer between decks then safely transport it to the console with a surge protector in the middle? You know that's a great question I have absolutely no idea if anything I said is accurate.
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imperiusdamian posted:Absoluute worst? Star Trek having NO loving surge protectors on the bridge. Seriously, consoles explode in showers of sparks every time someone glares at a Fed ship? Yeah, in recent years, the propensity of Federation technology to default to "fail deadly" instead of "fail safe" has really been a massive  moment for me.I understand the Doylist reason for it (to create tension and drama), but we're never really given a good Watsonian explanation as to why a Romulan disruptor beam blowing up the empty cargo bay on deck 13 causes a console on the bridge to explode and kill poor Lieutenant Redshirt. And that's not even getting into that whole "holodeck safety protocols"  .
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It's pretty much "cannon" that Starfleet cares gently caress all about OHAS. The socialist utopia has one hell of a dark libertarian, devil may care attitude to it as well. "We will provide you with whatever you need to live a happy life and better your self and humanity, but um maybe don't use the transporters today, some sort of glitch, I dunno people are just coming out as unholy abominations that we hope don't last long, oh and we think a replicator may of ...eaten someone maybe? ...for some reason? ...somehow? Yeah, we're looking into that as well. So maybe wait off on using them as well I guess  "
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it's a direct product for using the bridge crew as a synecdoche for the whole crew
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it would be awesome if a conduit blew up and instead of pre alpha ensign lynch eating poo poo, the ship basically shits its pants in some random deck where, i guess, noncom lynch has to deal with it
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Worf posted:it would be awesome if a conduit blew up and instead of pre alpha ensign lynch eating poo poo, the ship basically shits its pants in some random deck where, i guess, noncom lynch has to deal with it genuinely surprised i can't remember this being a recurring joke on lower decks
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You have it wrong. There's just SO MUCH POWER in those consoles that those explosions that are killing crew are the reduced versions. If they didn't have protection the entire ship would explode.
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Your mistake is in assuming Federation engineers would design things to fail gracefully instead of explode violently. Big mistake right there.
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Worf posted:it would be awesome if a conduit blew up and instead of pre alpha ensign lynch eating poo poo, the ship basically shits its pants in some random deck where, i guess, noncom lynch has to deal with it A science officer is working in there lab with no idea that the Enterprise D is in a fearsome battle with a space octopus. Suddenly a tentacle hits and there's a crash and a flash and all the samples they were working on are fried in an instant. The data crystals that stored all their notes and findings likewise. Four years of work... just gone. If only their could of been some sort of future type explodey console based surge protector that could of prevented this! Anyway Starfleet well knows you don't want science types out for vengeance, so I say smart move.
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It's simple population control. Everyone has functionally infinite food and shelter, most diseases have been cured and people can easily live into their 150s, and it's not like there's a lot of lethal interpersonal violence in enlightened utopia. The only way to prevent humanity from exploding in numbers to the point it outstrips the resources of even a post-scarcity society is if a lot of them die in industrial accidents
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The be-all, end-all clone horror/drama (call it horrma) is Parts: The Clonus Horror.
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Asterite34 posted:It's simple population control. Everyone has functionally infinite food and shelter, most diseases have been cured and people can easily live into their 150s, and it's not like there's a lot of lethal interpersonal violence in enlightened utopia. The only way to prevent humanity from exploding in numbers to the point it outstrips the resources of even a post-scarcity society is if a lot of them die in industrial accidents "Hello Admiral Thomess. This is Starship hopeful. We have returned form a successful mission into the uncharted space in sector 457. We have learnt much in our seven year journey, had many peaceful encounters with new alien societies forging many new friendships. As you will see by our logs, we safely and wisely traveled the stars and are so glad to see home again without losing a soul. To lead this voyage of discovery has been such an honor. regards Captain Cleea" "Hey Captain Cleea, could you like just go back out there for a bit and try and do some more dangerous poo poo? I don't know try blowing up a black hole or something I guess? K thx bye Admiral, T"
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I want an episode where they become very concerned that theres so many rocks inside their work computers The space janitor gets on the bridge and he's like haha ohh no, you gotta call the IT Vulcan for that mess
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The ships go on enough time adventures I'm surprise they don't universe hop every time they get struck as a function of shields
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imperiusdamian posted:Absoluute worst? Star Trek having NO loving surge protectors on the bridge. Seriously, consoles explode in showers of sparks every time someone glares at a Fed ship? Couldn't do that with all your "surge protectors" and "circuit breakers" and "electrical safety procedures".
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She should have charged him with insubordination
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imperiusdamian posted:Absoluute worst? Star Trek having NO loving surge protectors on the bridge. Seriously, consoles explode in showers of sparks every time someone glares at a Fed ship? The consoles should be full of confetti and hard candies.
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Buttchocks posted:The consoles should be full of confetti and hard candies. Just an explosion of burning paper and molten sugar in your face, every time. Takes hours to rearm every console.
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W.T. Fits posted:Yeah, in recent years, the propensity of Federation technology to default to "fail deadly" instead of "fail safe" has really been a massive If there's one thing Trek should have NEVER introduced, it was the loving holodeck.
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imperiusdamian posted:If there's one thing Trek should have NEVER introduced, it was the loving holodeck. This except romulans
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imperiusdamian posted:If there's one thing Trek should have NEVER introduced, it was the loving holodeck. The holodeck would've been fine if the writers had any self-control about the holodeck randomly overcoming all limits to keep unexpectedly creating a fully sentient holograms.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The holodeck would've been fine if the writers had any self-control about the holodeck randomly overcoming all limits to keep unexpectedly creating a fully sentient holograms. The holodeck should never allow anyone else instead before first filling with water and draining all the funk away. Why can other people just walk in on you?
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The holodeck makes sense once you realize that it's inventors used protomatter in the matrix.
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I don't think the holodeck is dumb they just had dumb people write bad poo poo with it That first episode when they're in the ship corridor and then the bay door opens and it's a jungle is loving cool lol If it was written today it'd probably be used better and have more stories about the detriments of using it too much as an individual or whatever a la broccoli But tech fatigue etc would have been way less easy to empathize with in that way in 1987 compared to "wow a jungle / whatever inside the ship" or random malfunctions and hijinx Worf fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jul 21, 2022 |
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My main problem with the holodecks is, "Why is the default setting for the holodeck 'everything is as lethal as it would be if it were real' with 'nonlethal' being a setting that has to be enabled and that can be turned off by any shmuck with a passing familiarity with how the ship's systems work (i.e., everyone on board)?" Doylist answer: because that way it can create tension and drama when it inevitably malfunctions. Watsonian answer: 
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the safety limits were clearly added after some horrifying accidents, same way most safety regulations end up existing
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Worf posted:I don't think the holodeck is dumb they just had dumb people write bad poo poo with it Orville uses their holodeck in a pretty good way. Mostly nightclubs and sex. Lots of gay sex.
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W.T. Fits posted:My main problem with the holodecks is, "Why is the default setting for the holodeck 'everything is as lethal as it would be if it were real' with 'nonlethal' being a setting that has to be enabled and that can be turned off by any shmuck with a passing familiarity with how the ship's systems work (i.e., everyone on board)?" Considering I can't think of a single time someone said "Computer, turn on safety interlocks" and it's ALWAYS "Computer, disable safety interlocks" I'm gonna go with "The safeties being on is the default setting"
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