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Casimir Radon posted:I’d have seen Vikander get another crack at it. She did a pretty good job with a dumb, badly paced script. Or they could go back to Daisy Ridley now that she doesn’t have to worry about SW sequel poo poo conflicting up her schedule. Do both and have Jolie return, Tomb Raid the multiverse. Heck get the lady from Womb Raider to show up too!
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muscles like this! posted:MGM has lost the rights to Tomb Raider which means the previously planned sequel to the Alicia Vikander reboot movie is dead. So expect yet another Tomb Raider reboot to happen in a couple years when whoever buys the rights next gets around to making a movie. That fuckin' blows. I didn't think the first Vikander movie was too great but Vikander herself was awesome and I was looking forward to the sequel. It was disappointing she got stuck in a weirdly long feeling movie. Way too much WILL SHE GO TO THE PLACE OR WILL SHE NOT like Jesus Christ it's called Tomb Raider not Tomb Contemplator. Tars Tarkas posted:Do both and have Jolie return, Tomb Raid the multiverse. Heck get the lady from Womb Raider to show up too! Get the Tara Soft model from Dangerous Vaults lmao
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Tars Tarkas posted:Do both and have Jolie return, Tomb Raid the multiverse. Heck get the lady from Womb Raider to show up too! Sony can buy it and add drake and low poly Lara in the raiderverse
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It’s incredibly weird how they paced the movie. They sort of took the vague plot of the 2013 reboot, but then wasted the first half of the movie on some boxing/bike courier plot that has nothing to do with it. Then they slammed together a bunch of the action setpieces from the game in quick succession, then it was over after a little sequel bait that has gone nowhere.
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Casimir Radon posted:It’s incredibly weird how they paced the movie. They sort of took the vague plot of the 2013 reboot, but then wasted the first half of the movie on some boxing/bike courier plot that has nothing to do with it. Then they slammed together a bunch of the action setpieces from the game in quick succession, then it was over after a little sequel bait that has gone nowhere. Yeah, they introduce Hannah John-Kamen as her best friend who then doesn't go on the trip with her, so... ???
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muscles like this! posted:Yeah, they introduce Hannah John-Kamen as her best friend who then doesn't go on the trip with her, so... ???
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The 2013 game's intro is so good, it just fuckin' goes. The movie should have taken a que from that instead of just some basic plot stuff.
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I'd kinda like to see Camilla Luddington, who did the voice in the reboot games, get a chance at the role in live action. She's no Vikander but she's done good with the part.
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I started watching the Vikander Tomb Raider on Netflix a while back, got bored after 10-15 minutes of Lara faffing around in London showing off all manner of what I assume were Chekhov's Skills, and decided to come back to it later. Netflix being Netflix, by "later" it was gone. But I've yet to hear anything to make me go "I really should give that another try." Maybe if I see the DVD for £1 at CEX... The Jolie TRs were as dumb as a box of rocks, but at least they didn't lose my interest before the end of the first act.
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I haven't seen a single Tomb Raider movie yet. I am kind of tempted by the Jolie ones because they seem like dumb fun, but there was just always better stuff around. I wonder if any studio ever plans on really making a good Tomb Raider action movie or if those Jolie movies were the franchise's peak and everything now is just "eh, people will have heard of the game."
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I never really heard much discussion of the two sequel games to the 2013 reboot. I believe they were decently well regarded but they seemed to mostly fly under the radar. The franchise was much bigger in the late 90s/early 2000s.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I never really heard much discussion of the two sequel games to the 2013 reboot. I believe they were decently well regarded but they seemed to mostly fly under the radar. The franchise was much bigger in the late 90s/early 2000s. Shadow of the Tomb Raider is good as well, but a bit of a step backwards in some way. The tomb puzzle portions are drastically improved from the first two games where they were honestly pretty weak. They gave Lara all these Predator-esque jungle combat abilities, but you so rarely get to use them. Too much time gets spent in this hidden city in the jungle, which is impressive, but they overused it a ton. There’s an overarching plot about a secret society called Trinity throughout the trilogy. Mentions of it are more of a cameo in the first game. It becomes a major plot point in the second game. But like many secret society plots it turned into a pointless wet fart in the third game.
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They were decent games, but I absolutely hated the direction the plot went after the first one. Rise is all about Lara’s mommy issues and Shadow is some grimdark bullshit about her obsession with her destroying Trinity almost causes the destruction of the world, and also she has daddy issues now. Also every game is about how she finally becomes the tomb raider, which is not something I need to know three times. I would much prefer that they went back to a more light hearted globetrotting adventure series instead of this weird mass murder survival poo poo. It’s just dull and they never took it anywhere interesting after the first game. Also Lara is just kinda lovely and annoying as a character instead of a fun and confident action icon. Whatever they’re doing next sounds like more of the same.
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Alan Smithee posted:Sony can buy it and add drake and low poly Lara in the raiderverse Also not-Lara from the Jumanji movies and Indiana Jones
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Hakkesshu posted:I would much prefer that they went back to a more light hearted globetrotting adventure series instead of this weird mass murder survival poo poo. It’s just dull and they never took it anywhere interesting after the first game. Also Lara is just kinda lovely and annoying as a character instead of a fun and confident action icon. Whatever they’re doing next sounds like more of the same. This is how I feel about the reboot games. They're too 'serious' and grim and why can't we just have cool action girl doing cool action poo poo again?
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Jul 30, 2022 08:02
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Bc she’s a colonialist so they had to make her more vulnerable
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Casimir Radon posted:There’s an overarching plot about a secret society called Trinity throughout the trilogy. Mentions of it are more of a cameo in the first game. It becomes a major plot point in the second game. But like many secret society plots it turned into a pointless wet fart in the third game.
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Until they mention that they're taking direction inspiration from TR Legends for the movie I'm just gonna ignore it. I'm very much like previous posters in that the reboot is too serious and grim. Not to mention weirdly gore porn-y with all the gruesome ways she can die.
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Alan Smithee posted:Bc she’s a colonialist so they had to make her more vulnerable Yeah, the original Lara Croft character didn't even have the conceit of Indiana Jones where he's stealing artifacts to present in a museum or for academia, she's literally taking them for her own collection or personal enjoyment. Also, the first instinct when she discovers a hidden cave system filled with living fossil dinosaurs is to murder them because they're in her way.
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The Tomb Raider reboot definitely goes way into that creepy trend of 'protect your doe-eyed daughterwife from lovingly detailed, frequently sexualised violence' that was a thing for a while. Though Lara's always been a bit of a victim of action heroines being Whedonised for the last couple decades.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Tomb Raider reboot definitely goes way into that creepy trend of 'protect your doe-eyed daughterwife from lovingly detailed, frequently sexualised violence' that was a thing for a while. Though Lara's always been a bit of a victim of action heroines being Whedonised for the last couple decades. I don't really think that is the case. She kills a bunch of people in the games, and its not a ludonarrative dissonance situation. The game acknowledges she is a survivor that can handle things herself. Unless things really change for Shadow.
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I’ve never played any of the Tomb Raider games but I remember Conan doing a Clueless Gamer of the 2013 reboot and it seemed like the entire thing was watching Lara get impaled by large pieces of wood like tree branches.
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The first game of the reboot series I believe had a trailer / gameplay debut at E3. The majority of it was Lara crawling through a small cave space and wincing in pain / getting hurt, and then other stuff of her just in peril and near torture. It felt very Eli Roth at the time.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:I’ve never played any of the Tomb Raider games but I remember Conan doing a Clueless Gamer of the 2013 reboot and it seemed like the entire thing was watching Lara get impaled by large pieces of wood like tree branches. The reboot had a bunch of QTE segments that were big action sequences of "Oh poo poo survive this thing!" Which is mostly fine in theory but QTEs suck and several of them are very trial and error so you ended up with the extremely graphic deaths. I really enjoyed the TR reboot gameplay, but the QTEs were a bit much. I'm pretty sure I beat the second and third but I couldn't tell you what the plots were beyond "Lara going to find the Mcguffin"
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i've repeated myself several times on the tomb raider reboots and how they have problems with the writing, and one of the key things is every game somehow must have at least one scene where she turns into a Deity of Wrath who destroys everything in her path because she assumed they have killed her friend(s), regardless how necessary it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6i9kEsr-hc&t=443s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_JZo2swI8Q
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IShallRiseAgain posted:I don't really think that is the case. She kills a bunch of people in the games, and its not a ludonarrative dissonance situation. The game acknowledges she is a survivor that can handle things herself. Unless things really change for Shadow.
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Young Freud posted:Yeah, the original Lara Croft character didn't even have the conceit of Indiana Jones where he's stealing artifacts to present in a museum or for academia, she's literally taking them for her own collection or personal enjoyment. Also, the first instinct when she discovers a hidden cave system filled with living fossil dinosaurs is to murder them because they're in her way. The murder of dinosaurs can hardly be excused (well, it's delf-defense), but the plot of the first Tomb Raider is about a literal demon tricking her into resurrecting Atlantis. She's applying her skills as a job, and when she finds out that it's all a plot of world domination, she tries to stop it. It's as good a story hook as any and her being an imperialist collector wasn't really a thing until later on. I feel like it's a pretty easy thing to avoid in a reboot.
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The very first time we see Lara, before we even get a full look at her face, we learn that she found and killed Bigfoot. She also has the Ark of the Covenant in her house. She was always an "adventurer" in the British Empire-era sense of "goes to foreign countries, kills their wildlife and steals their poo poo."
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Payndz posted:The very first time we see Lara, before we even get a full look at her face, we learn that she found and killed Bigfoot. She also has the Ark of the Covenant in her house. She was always an "adventurer" in the British Empire-era sense of "goes to foreign countries, kills their wildlife and steals their poo poo."
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The series is called "Tomb Raider" not "Ancient Culture Preserver"
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I thought that Daisy Ridley shoyld have been Lara, but the bigger question is why the Star Wars Uncharted ripoff wasn't about Rey climbing around the old starships on Jakku.
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Tars Tarkas posted:Guillermo del Toro’s The Adventures of Pinocchio in case you need help keeping track of which Pinocchio this is This looks incredible. I can't wait for this film! 
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FlamingLiberal posted:Bigfoot had it coming Bigfoot was a manspreader
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No, silly. They want to watch Prey.
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https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1553449094592581633 I can't tell if metalheads are in charge of hell or if those are supposed to be demons. Also enjoy watching the entire movie.
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muscles like this! posted:https://twitter.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1553449094592581633 lmao if anything is gonna be "the next The Room" i think we have a strong contender
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Nichelle Nichols, passed away at 89.
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