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Agile Vector posted:sorry, cox gigawhat? you heard right
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also, no one has a home phone anymore. Everyone has a smartphone so the whole five nines reliability that wired phone service was known for is now a relic of the past my parents used to have dsl and the same home phone number for, uh, 30 years? Or something. And they dropped that poo poo like a hot potato when they got cable because the only legitimate calls they got were on their smartphones reminds me of the cutover service when they took that poo poo seriously https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saRir95iIWk
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i had a home phone for a little bit because the court demanded someone in my home be on house arrest and the device had to go through a phone line. finally took the jack out today after at&t came out.
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:i had a home phone for a little bit because the court demanded someone in my home be on house arrest and the device had to go through a phone line. I actually had a home phone in 2017 for about a year or two and was planning to run a bbs off of it but running a 50W minitower 24/7 was not something I wanted to expense at the time for shits and giggles. Would have added like $35 to my electric bill or something. Now that I think about it, I should have tried to source a US Robotics 56K external modem and connect it to an rpi or something. I swear, electricity must have been dirt cheap in the 90s because we ran a 486 as a linux router to share the cable modem and no one cared about the bill. Anyways, I had the phone line because it helps AT&T with some sort of federal accounting rebate and cuts my bill by $10, even with the phone line, which I ended up not using at all.
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needless to say, they don't offer that deal anymore because I would have seriously considered starting a yosbbs where you can download anime wallpapers and doom WADs
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electricity was cheap but you'd better make yourself scarce when your parents got that first phone bill after you discovered how to dial out to different places
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spankmeister posted:electricity was cheap but you'd better make yourself scarce when your parents got that first phone bill after you discovered how to dial out to different places guess who downloaded patches and demos from the Sierra BBS! Yes, it was me. My parents were NOT happy.
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Had a 2400 baud modem, too. 20 minutes for a megabyte, if I remember correctly.
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sb hermit posted:I actually had a home phone in 2017 for about a year or two and was planning to run a bbs off of it but running a 50W minitower 24/7 was not something I wanted to expense at the time for shits and giggles. Would have added like $35 to my electric bill or something. Now that I think about it, I should have tried to source a US Robotics 56K external modem and connect it to an rpi or something. not sure about the $35 part. I have no idea where you live, but: 50w * 24h/day = 1200wH = 1.2kwH 1.2 kwH * 30d = 36 kwH even worst case scenario of hawaii at $0.4311/kwH that's $15.52 per month Best case scenario of washington at $0.1034 that's $3.72 per month
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BBS's were cool. I still logon to an operation overkill server sometimes.
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Wild EEPROM posted:not sure about the $35 part. I live in southern california with a tiered plan (so it can get pretty bad) but your math don't lie, in any case. I wonder what kind of rig I wanted to use, or if I was remembering the pricing incorrectly. I probably priced it at the most expensive tier at the time, and might have been using more than 50 watts. ate poo poo on live tv posted:BBS's were cool. I still logon to an operation overkill server sometimes. I haven't logged onto a bbs in a dog's age but I kinda want to run a home grown renegade or wildcat when I retire and if POTS systems are still around.
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7-11 stores in denmark are closed since last night, media suspects ransomware lol
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there is a functioning land line in my house connected to a working handset, and I can’t convince my fiancée to let me get rid of it. it took like four tries for bell to successfully get the right number on the right account with the right service (“you mean the VOIP service, right?” “no, amazingly, I still do not”)
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even my boomer parents canceled their landline over a decade ago. i remember exactly 15 years ago when i moved into a house with some other dudes, we had to get a landline number to get internet. we didnt need to actually put in a phone, just had to have a number (i assume for their janky cms or something). we got something like 32122222 because it was funny to have that and not use it also, 7-11 confirms its a "hack"
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sb hermit posted:reminds me of the cutover service when they took that poo poo seriously man i wanna cut them cables, looks satisfying. and it has a purpose too i think i might have a cable cutting fetish
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tied in the house phone wiring with an rj-21x in the network rack, plugged in a dumb phone, and patched it into a sip box. costs practically nothing to have a physical phone on the wall for when the kids are old enough to stay home alone for a bit but mot have a cell phone.
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tor relay / sip trunk prepaid
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Beeftweeter posted:e: ^^^ yeah thats my understanding Third party SFP ONT are a convenience item if you have a router with a sfp wan port or a nerd fidget spinner(since it will require constant tinkering). It does nothing for latency or performance(since most units have a gigabit phy, same as the ISP external ONT kit). Source: I have a technicolor AFM0002TIM SFP ONT provided by my ISP.
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sb hermit posted:also, no one has a home phone anymore. Everyone has a smartphone so the whole five nines reliability that wired phone service was known for is now a relic of the past i love this video so much
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sb hermit posted:needless to say, they don't offer that deal anymore because I would have seriously considered starting a yosbbs where you can download anime wallpapers and doom WADs cox is still cheaper with an phone than without, adding the $15 or whatever for a line enables me to get a $30 "bundle" discount, but I haven't had an MTA with a phone jack in 10 years.
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whoever had my apartment last had the service with the phone cuz the ont was the kind that comes with a battery input and a place to put a battery, but since i didn't have the phone service there wasn't a battery. i just got my own battery (normal-rear end sealed lead acid) and plugged it in cuz why not
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at one point in that video, the guy explains that the cutting tools have been sharpened in a special way to prevent shorts… wth is he talking about?? the shape of the blade or something? idgi
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namlosh posted:at one point in that video, the guy explains that the cutting tools have been sharpened in a special way to prevent shorts… wth is he talking about?? the shape of the blade or something? idgi i think it means they won't short wires together (which i've definitely had happen myself), I can't imagine how it wouldn't short against the metal of the cutter itself but that would only be very brief
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covering the blade with something insulating and only sharpening away the bit directly on the edge would do it i reckon. you're not really concerned about temporarily "shorting" the strand you're cutting with the other half of it that you're cutting it away from - the thing to be avoided is bridging different strands together. assuming this is some kind of stranded cable with multiple distinct strands in it, anyway. i think even 100 years ago when those things were built they wouldn't be using such a chunky cable for a single signal. e: or yeah, probably just talking about cutting in a way that it doesn't leave strands bridged together after you take the cutters away. that's pretty important considering half of those lines are about to be energized by the new equipment you're turning on.
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thx, that sounds plausible. I didn’t mention that I’m intimately familiar with shorting two leads together while cutting them. years ago I went to cut the connector on a fully charged 3S lipo I was using in an RC car. if I hadn’t realized and thrown it immediately I may have lost fingat well, maybe not that, but it did flash liquify the solder and emit a really high pitched whine
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This is my lack of knowledge about old switching and ESS but why did all of the cables have to be physically cut before that guy towards the end of the video could throw the switch?
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rafikki posted:This is my lack of knowledge about old switching and ESS but why did all of the cables have to be physically cut before that guy towards the end of the video could throw the switch? i think the official answer is that they're physically connected to the same lines, and the old-school system doesn't have a convenient "disconnect and don't respond to any signals" switch the way the new system does. just cutting all the cables to the old system before turning the new one on is faster and cheaper than retrofitting a simultaneous system-wide disconnect switch to the old system that you intend to use exactly once.
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Jabor posted:i think the official answer is that they're physically connected to the same lines, and the old-school system doesn't have a convenient "disconnect and don't respond to any signals" switch the way the new system does. just cutting all the cables to the old system before turning the new one on is faster and cheaper than retrofitting a simultaneous system-wide disconnect switch to the old system that you intend to use exactly once. and which would also require you to cut in to the lines to fit the disconnect switch anyway so i mean, yeah
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this is how i cut cables https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBb4pfkMvw&t=93s
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Carthag Tuek posted:this is how i cut cables They cut the telephone lines, yet dialed into a mainframe to get the money 
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CommieGIR posted:They cut the telephone lines, yet dialed into a mainframe to get the money the one bruder is splicing cables, maybe those are some of them? idk
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"Are there any emergency calls in progress at this time? Good enough."
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Carthag Tuek posted:the one bruder is splicing cables, maybe those are some of them? idk But they then cut all the cables with a chainsaw. Unless its in the basement? Tech in film is always fun.
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Loezi posted:"Are there any emergency calls in progress at this time? Good enough." this is the kind of thinking that'll land you maintaining a huge erlang/otp codebase, and no one wants that
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CommieGIR posted:But they then cut all the cables with a chainsaw. Unless its in the basement? “The codes, if you please.” “I can’t! There’s no internet!” “Mr Takage, i will count to three. There will not be a four”
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Loezi posted:"Are there any emergency calls in progress at this time? Good enough." lmao she actually says "good enough" 
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Jabor posted:assuming this is some kind of stranded cable with multiple distinct strands in it, anyway. i think even 100 years ago when those things were built they wouldn't be using such a chunky cable for a single signal. Those are old trunk cables, each one probably has 60 or even 144 individual POTS lines that correspond 1 to 1 with actual people's phones and also carries 48VDC. That current is what they wanted to make sure they didn't short when they cut the cables.
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