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in my experience it's nice to have it on from the start, and since it decays on a per stack basis it takes more effort to refresh than say power charges or something do what you want but it's a very good node
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Aug 13, 2022 17:01
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FZeroRacer posted:it's hard for me to think of any fights where you can't maintain full fortification if each stack lasts 17s. Every single uber boss fight thats not Cortex, which is a joke anyway
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Aug 13, 2022 17:16
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Lightning Elementalist seems to have pretty good damage output with the new stuff. I can't figure out how to work the defenses or even mana sustain with it though, which makes me think it's probably going to be pretty bad unless someone figures out a way to run with it. Clear also seems clunky with the two-button build and you don't have Plaguebearers to smooth your life out. It is pretty neat that you can get a minimum shock up to like 54% off the tree and the reworked Thunderfists though.
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Aug 13, 2022 17:39
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queeb posted:Lol jungroan is pushing an ice trap inquis for his league starter, using the new sunblast belt. But man it looks like it'll be nearly EA levels of delayed damage since the belt makes your traps detonate after one second, and enemies can't trigger them. You swap the belt in for major bosses, the build has plenty of damage vs. map bosses without it
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Aug 13, 2022 17:58
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Just popping in to say that I am personally insulted that bloodlust support wasn't buffed in some way on the skill rebalance. 
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Aug 13, 2022 18:15
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:You swap the belt in for major bosses, the build has plenty of damage vs. map bosses without it tbh I think the 1 second delay is fine for mapping too, mobs chase you and people wildly overestimate their movement speed at the start of a new league
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Aug 13, 2022 18:19
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How big was the Explosive Arrow nerf? Will, say, this build by ziz still work, or am I better off going with a different league starter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-p8qacplk
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Aug 13, 2022 18:37
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Did anyone here play Spark Inquisitor the last couple leagues? I'm trying to convert it to a trickster build (looking at goratha and lily's builds) and was wondering how much it really relies on the damage from inquis. Kind of just want to stay non-crit with the lucky lightning mastery into endgame but I also don't want to do zero damage so not sure thats possible
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Aug 13, 2022 18:50
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queeb posted:Lol jungroan is pushing an ice trap inquis for his league starter, using the new sunblast belt. But man it looks like it'll be nearly EA levels of delayed damage since the belt makes your traps detonate after one second, and enemies can't trigger them. One thing to remember about this build is that bear trap doesn't work if an enemy doesn't trigger it and the belt causes traps to expire, so the damage is quite a bit lower than estimated.
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Aug 13, 2022 18:51
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Meeko posted:How big was the Explosive Arrow nerf? Will, say, this build by ziz still work, or am I better off going with a different league starter? it might be still viable but the combination of nerfs hits it fairly hard because EA ignite was already spread very thin due to how far you have to traverse on the tree. don't think i'd recommend it because it was already inherently clunky but viable due to low gear and decent DPS and these changes make it a lot worse to get off the ground.
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Aug 13, 2022 18:54
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MMF Freeway posted:Did anyone here play Spark Inquisitor the last couple leagues? I'm trying to convert it to a trickster build (looking at goratha and lily's builds) and was wondering how much it really relies on the damage from inquis. Kind of just want to stay non-crit with the lucky lightning mastery into endgame but I also don't want to do zero damage so not sure thats possible Trickster is very much not a high dps ascendancy already. I think Spark will work, but I don't think non-crit is the way
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Aug 13, 2022 18:56
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With the changes and buff to arctic armor, I think my start might be divine ire trickster. Maybe go for ES leech and polymath, and then perhaps later switch to CI if I can get some good mirrored jewelry with high ES. Without getting to play with them I'm not sure if any of the new gems would fit well with that. I'm sure Ire could put out a sizable shock on something just not sure if those shocks will be worth interacting with, almost certainly not needed for clear. Also not sure if the speed/slow node will be needed for DI or if hearstopper might not be better for standing and tanking.
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Aug 13, 2022 19:24
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Any chance you got a link to a build guide? Not seeing it on the usual aggregators. ruetoo popularized cf champ back in 3.16ish and guides from back then should still be mostly good, though i think the aura reservation nerfs probably mean you're going to have to drop defiance banner or herald of purity; that's going to ding every old build to some extent, though.
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Aug 13, 2022 19:33
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Wuxi posted:Trickster is very much not a high dps ascendancy already. I think Spark will work, but I don't think non-crit is the way I think Trickster with the mastery node and always-be-energy-leeching will have reasonably good damage, just with also good defenses.
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Aug 13, 2022 19:33
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I just realized with GGG's policy of allowing multi-boxing you could probably farm Oni's on like 10 characters at a time. Wonder how profitable it would be?
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Aug 13, 2022 19:37
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Trickster has one solid more multi. It's definitely not bad and shadow has a lot of offense on his side of the skill tree, but it's not really an offensively-minded ascendancy, just something to keep in mind when planning a build. Spark scales well, but with all the crit available to shadow, definitely go crit
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Aug 13, 2022 19:37
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FZeroRacer posted:it deals about 20% less damage overall for ignite, focus got nerfed so you can't get as longer duration ignites, it lost a lot of defense from defiance banner, much harder to hit spell suppress cap and you can't have malevolence on lifetap for bossing. Ah, I see. Thank you very much for the detailed response! I'll look elsewhere for a starter then.
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Aug 13, 2022 19:40
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Meeko posted:How big was the Explosive Arrow nerf? Will, say, this build by ziz still work, or am I better off going with a different league starter? 40% to ignite off the top. Huge defensive nerfs to elementalists relying on suppression Lost at least 2 auras on top of that. That said I did EA ballista Elem last league and it was incredibly good and would still be good nerfed.
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Aug 13, 2022 19:40
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an iksar marauder posted:Trickster has one solid more multi. It's definitely not bad and shadow has a lot of offense on his side of the skill tree, but it's not really an offensively-minded ascendancy, just something to keep in mind when planning a build. Spark scales well, but with all the crit available to shadow, definitely go crit this is the tree I was thinking for the crit version (disclaimer: sc levels of life): https://poeplanner.com/b/g_S it gets 33% more damage from polymath without being too stupid I think. Like I would probably take most of these nodes without it, at least before clusters
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Aug 13, 2022 19:48
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i think a lot of people are gonna get caught by trickster and end up with a very low dps build. so i'd make sure if you end up going trickster you ensure that whatever build you're doing gets all of its damage from the tree or some other outside source. a stat-stacking build might work for it for example.
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Aug 13, 2022 19:50
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Reiterpallasch posted:ruetoo popularized cf champ back in 3.16ish and guides from back then should still be mostly good, though i think the aura reservation nerfs probably mean you're going to have to drop defiance banner or herald of purity; that's going to ding every old build to some extent, though. Updated version of his build(s) are here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z3Eo5DSb22o5-d-Qiomo20bNZpnYaR7Z_siDMSY9q0c/edit#gid=0
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Aug 13, 2022 19:54
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MMF Freeway posted:this is the tree I was thinking for the crit version (disclaimer: sc levels of life): https://poeplanner.com/b/g_S Looks solid. You're next to 2 more 3 node life wheels too, you can probably swap out the first 4 skill nodes for the 2 int nodes and get one if you need it
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Aug 13, 2022 19:55
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MMF Freeway posted:this is the tree I was thinking for the crit version (disclaimer: sc levels of life): https://poeplanner.com/b/g_S You have 88% increased damage with that tree. Thats gonna be the mother of all zdps
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Aug 13, 2022 19:56
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I havent played spark since aura stacking but isn't that a pretty normal tree, its a lot of suppression from the skill tree that could be switched out for damage, but with 2 good wands I could see it do fine what you could do is spec out of some suppression as you get it on gear, but that tree also has empty jewel sockets allocated and is next to damage wheels so I think it'll do fine an iksar marauder fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Aug 13, 2022 20:00
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https://poeplanner.com/b/g_k this is the standard Inquisitor build tree, at least for league start. Its very different
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Aug 13, 2022 20:03
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If you want to do melee , campion stacking armor and evasion with the perseverance belt is still a great basic template
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Aug 13, 2022 20:07
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You'd prefer traveling that way and for example speccing into the suppression asc node on trickster then making up for the missing % on gear? I'd probably just go inquisitor spark instead at that point
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Aug 13, 2022 20:09
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I prefer that over not progressing well into red maps because my gear is still poo poo and I can't make up for it with my passives. Not that you need the suppression ascendancy, but its the strongest passive the trickster has. Not on league start since getting a decent hybrid setup isn't done without gear, but later absolutely
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Aug 13, 2022 20:14
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I think on trickster ideally I would go with a DoT skill or ignite since the more multiplier is generic and is a damage buff from what DoT trickster got before. There's also a lot of DoT support on the tree nearby. For the spark tree he knows better than I do so listen to Wuxi here OP
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Aug 13, 2022 20:17
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hmmm Shield Crush?
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Aug 13, 2022 20:18
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Wish I could read, I missed that conduit removed shock Put that in the god drat stat line ggg
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Aug 13, 2022 20:22
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an iksar marauder posted:I think on trickster ideally I would go with a DoT skill or ignite since the more multiplier is generic and is a damage buff from what DoT trickster got before. There's also a lot of DoT support on the tree nearby. deaths oath trickster time??
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Aug 13, 2022 20:26
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500 good dogs posted:deaths oath trickster time?? speaking of zdps
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Aug 13, 2022 20:30
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Wuxi posted:You have 88% increased damage with that tree. Thats gonna be the mother of all zdps haha I swear I thought of that but I guess I just figure that gearing for % damage is easier than crit multi or spell sup or whatever else I took instead of more damage. Would you not value getting piercing shots with the shadow start? Cuz when I was thinking of the tree I definitely had it in my head that its a must have pick up. I guess piece support is not that bad these days compared to other options but my plan was to put energy leech in that slot
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Aug 13, 2022 20:35
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You can get pierce on gloves via eldritch implicits
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Aug 13, 2022 20:37
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Captain Foo posted:hmmm Shield Crush? i think people are kind of sleeping on that buffed emperor's vigilance shield. it lost it's worst drawback (cannot block while you have no es) and is now like 2k armor 400 es and comes with free glancing blows (not sure if that's still good or not though lol) that's better than most endgame shield throw/shield crush shields in terms of raw dps. as an example i plugged it into my GC SC guy from expedition and it was an immediate 40% dps boost over what was a 15 ex ev/es shield edit: or maybe they aren't sleeping on it, idk. i haven't paid attention to anything outside of goon discourse. Tabletops fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Aug 13, 2022 |
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Aug 13, 2022 20:50
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Benson Cunningham posted:I just realized with GGG's policy of allowing multi-boxing you could probably farm Oni's on like 10 characters at a time. Wonder how profitable it would be? considering it takes like 8 to 9 hours each, not very
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Aug 13, 2022 21:24
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Benson Cunningham posted:I just realized with GGG's policy of allowing multi-boxing you could probably farm Oni's on like 10 characters at a time. Wonder how profitable it would be? I'm set up to do that but I never would, because it's not... mentally profitable.
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Aug 13, 2022 21:24
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Eagerly awaiting the first reports of people throwing divines at low value uniques out of pure habit.
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Aug 13, 2022 21:27
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Benson Cunningham posted:I just realized with GGG's policy of allowing multi-boxing you could probably farm Oni's on like 10 characters at a time. Wonder how profitable it would be? Good luck controlling that many characters all in different instances with different layouts simultaneously while adhering to all of the multibox rules GGG has in place.
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Aug 13, 2022 21:30
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