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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

I can't wait for all of em to be out so I can kick back and mainline them all at once. The clips look so loving good

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Armored Core thread in retro games forum: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3901774

Expo70
Nov 15, 2021

Can't talk now, doing
Hot Girl Stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4uLTLSR2lY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekEu13d-bMY

Go play Armored Core 4/For Answer.

Even now, they still play better than any other high speed mecha action game, with only Zone of the Enders, and Omega Boost beating it in some extremely specific respects -- which you should play while you're at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFmfygHQ4r4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPCD5Vm6b8

If you love mecha, you owe yourself these experiences.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Nah, go play the PSX/2 games, immerse yourself in the corporate hellscape. :getin:

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Nah, go play the PSX/2 games, immerse yourself in the corporate hellscape. :getin:

Armored Core 2 is interesting there since it takes place in the dying days of the corporate hellscape. Earth has a government again, one with enough power to tell the corporations to get bent, and AC2's plot revolves around them trying to get established on Mars as well.

(It doesn't work out as they hoped. Then again, AC 2 doesn't work out as hoped for anyone, except maybe the player character.)

It and Another Age feel like the last gasp of the setting from 1. It's only a matter of time before Earthgov brings the hammer down and ends the corporate wars for keeps. No wonder they rebooted the setting with 3.

(Armored Core 2 and Another Age also offer the only point in the series where a save file import makes sense. The protagonist of Armored Core 2 is a veteran Earthling Raven who went up to Mars for some undefined reason. The protagonist of Another Age, a mere five years later, is a veteran Raven of undefined background, but who everyone seems to respect, with the Earth government allowing him and him alone to operate in Earth Central. Odd if he's just some schmuck, quite believable if he's the hero who resolved the Mars crisis.)

3's setting, of course, isn't so optimistic.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvPRfqu6cts

Can you speak English?

gently caress YOU.

Expo70
Nov 15, 2021

Can't talk now, doing
Hot Girl Stuff

Arc Hammer posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvPRfqu6cts

Can you speak English?

gently caress YOU.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TtRwc9MQzQ

sorry about your coup bro

ACES CURE PLANES posted:

Nah, go play the PSX/2 games, immerse yourself in the corporate hellscape. :getin:

Go lead the French revolution 2 electric boogaloo and literally eat the rich in 4th to save the human race as they make the Earth into an actual hellscape, desertifying most of the modern world forcing people to live in the sky because even the underground spaces are polluted and unsuitable for human existence, ruling out even the spaces you experience in 2 and 3 from reliably existing in most of the world barring the gear tunnels and a few other minor spaces

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSh5frMQ2SA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE2M-NHJ6og

Expo70 fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jul 30, 2022

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
someone went and upscaled all of Fang of The Sun Dougram to 1080p and put it all up on YouTube with English subs; https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm_615Q2LgcBdzirnajuX1XVMfOhUVOgE

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSVAYNZTIio

The youtube recommendations are generous tonight.

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


Wow, that is really well done. I want to see more!

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



drrockso20 posted:

someone went and upscaled all of Fang of The Sun Dougram to 1080p and put it all up on YouTube with English subs; https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm_615Q2LgcBdzirnajuX1XVMfOhUVOgE

This is really cool, and I'm amazed Sunrise hasn't brought the hammer down on it yet.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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I'm pretty sure that's how I watched it, years ago. Albeit in worse resolution. So at least once in the past it was up on Youtube long enough for me to get through all 80 episodes.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

The way you watched it was better, that version is "upscaled" using ai. It's fraudulent and disgusting

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Are we gonna No True Scotsman the methods for watching shows now? At least the episodes are there.

ninjewtsu
Oct 9, 2012

i want to know if literally anyone else would use the words "fraudulent and disgusting" to describe that

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Gaius Marius posted:

The way you watched it was better, that version is "upscaled" using ai. It's fraudulent and disgusting

much like your posting

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Ai upscaling is very controversial in terms of historical films

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/history-colourisation-controversy

You also get bizarre cases like Inland Empire which has a whole bizarre process where it was shot in SD upscaled to HD, downscaled to SD and then Ai upscaled again. The problem with the technology is that when people don't realize what they're actually watching, they make assumptions about it. Someone used a neural net to upscale the Lumire brothers video of a train arriving. It looks nice and smooth, but that isn't what is was like on the ground when they were shooting, it's just the common middle point that the Ai found in the inbetween frames and between the pixels that weren't lost.

Bloody Pom
Jun 5, 2011



If they had used AI interpolation to artificially increase the frame rate I would agree with you, but simply upscaling the footage is mostly fine and isn't actually all that uncommon when it comes to official remasters in other media. Granted you do to get oddball cases like the spelling errors in the GTA remasters, but that's only when it's implemented poorly/cheaply. There's no reason why these methods can't be extended to animation as well.

e:Why the gently caress am I responding to a Marius post seriously.

Bloody Pom fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Aug 11, 2022

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

It's too bad they removed the og GTA's because the actual remaster versions were such a cluster gently caress of bad ideas and glitches that if they weren't the only way to play the games now it would be a hilarious joke. Like, how do you make it so your car gets wider in GTAIII by wiggling the stick back and forth, HOW?

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
The AI upscaling is definitely noticeable if you're looking for it, and fair enough if you find it ugly. The video description is explicit about what the original source video was and how it was upscaled, though, so I don't see how it's deceptive?

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Gaius Marius posted:

It's too bad they removed the og GTA's because the actual remaster versions were such a cluster gently caress of bad ideas and glitches that if they weren't the only way to play the games now it would be a hilarious joke. Like, how do you make it so your car gets wider in GTAIII by wiggling the stick back and forth, HOW?

That glitch isn't actually new to the remasters, funnily enough.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Kanos posted:

That glitch isn't actually new to the remasters, funnily enough.

Yeah that's how cars work in most video games, they just forgot to include the fix to prevent it from happening.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



So, since it's been fully fan translated, I've been reading some of the Gridman spinoff manga "Princess and Samurai".

Only about a third in, so I can't offer a final verdict, but I'm not impressed so far. More than that, it seems to have missed one of the core things that makes Gridman and Dynazenon so good.

In Gridman and Dynazenon, there's a major split in the core cast between "normal" people (like Yume, Yomagi, and Sho) and the, for lack of a better term, Tokusatsu people. (Like Gauma and the Neon Genesis students). The normal humans are more mellow and grounded, while the people connected to the supernatural are wacky and over-the-top, creating a feeling like a better Re:Creators, where the world of an anime crashes into people's regular lives.

In Princess and Samurai, by contrast, the protagonist is just as crazy as the outsiders, if not crazier. There's no "normal" to contrast with, so there's no excitement from the strange.

Edit: Finished.

Yeah, that sucked.

Gridman (and, to a lesser extent, Dynazenon) was full of fun twists that were well set up in advance, so you expected them, but they still hit when they happened. This, meanwhile, has no setup for its twists, but it also doesn't do anything interesting with them. It has a smaller cast than Gridman, with only 3-5 major characters (depending how you count them) as compared to Gridman hitting that mark in episode one, and none of them are half as good as, say, Anti. Even Samurai and Akane (she has amnesia. I said this sucked, didn't I? It definitely doesn't manage the whole amnesiac protagonist as well as the previous works.) are flat compared to their roles in Gridman. Losing the contrast between the mundane and the supernatural means losing the core friction of the series, and the small cast has none of the spark you get from Gridman's writing. It doesn't feel like a living world with something spectacular intruding. It feels like a stage that only exists for its play. Also, Rikka shows up, but never does anything, including interacting with Akane. You'd think that her and Akane's relationship being the whole crux of Akane's last scene would mean that the writers would be sure that, if Rikka is on the scene, she'd have scenes with her one-time best friend, but no. She's just there to make people go "Hey, it's the girl in all the fanart. I will buy the manga that has her in it now."

I was kind of interested in this manga when it was first announced. Shame.

chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Aug 21, 2022

Exia
Feb 12, 2014
New Grendizer project announced

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2022/08/25-1/classic-anime-ufo-robot-grendizers-new-project-in-the-works-for-2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-IrHRj2PBk

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten

Oh nice.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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the banana head robot is back

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
Gone too long, very happy to see it.

Pootybutt
Apr 5, 2011


Mmmm, there's that extra crispy kota hoshino

Expo70
Nov 15, 2021

Can't talk now, doing
Hot Girl Stuff
So some news:

Anybody remember Megas XLR, from roughly around the Gundam-Wing on American and European TV era?

The show is basically "What if Jay and Silent Bob found a Megazord?" and its just pure comedy and homage and awesome poo poo start to finish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koesW3xMKtY

So on the tail-end of the lovely situation with HBO delisting and removing access to watch a lot of shows under the Cartoon Network merger as a tax-writeoff, we just learned that Megas XLR won't ever be broadcast again by HBO, Cartoon Network or either's respective affiliates. More here, covered by Saberspark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nmB1ZDIG0

Megas XLR particularly has been shot down repeatedly by accidently competing with other shows in other slots and its a huge shame (history below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V593fBPzP0c

There is a silver lining though:
Fans come to the rescue again, remastering it in 4K. If it looks blurry, that's just how it looked in its original resolution, due to the mastering and composition techniques and decisions used in production. Genuinely very funny show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwhdOpXGrY

Check the comments of the video for download link. Its a whopping 120GB though. I'm clearing out the space for it as we speak, and this is making me realize I'm due a few upgrades.

The franchise gets a lot of love from fans, including animations and even STL files for 3D printing floating around out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBr2d-rSbAo

Expo70
Nov 15, 2021

Can't talk now, doing
Hot Girl Stuff

Pootybutt posted:

Mmmm, there's that extra crispy kota hoshino

I feel no qualms posting this, given the boxed set was limited edition and I don't see these tracks for sale anywhere else, but here are some remixes and original pieces which didn't make it into the games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2NN1a79fs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fPbOwmGYg

Happy listening.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Nice, I'll have to check Megas XLR out. Love a good toon. I still need to see Big O and Samurai Jack too.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Expo70 posted:

So some news:

Anybody remember Megas XLR, from roughly around the Gundam-Wing on American and European TV era?

The show is basically "What if Jay and Silent Bob found a Megazord?" and its just pure comedy and homage and awesome poo poo start to finish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koesW3xMKtY

So on the tail-end of the lovely situation with HBO delisting and removing access to watch a lot of shows under the Cartoon Network merger as a tax-writeoff, we just learned that Megas XLR won't ever be broadcast again by HBO, Cartoon Network or either's respective affiliates. More here, covered by Saberspark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nmB1ZDIG0

Megas XLR particularly has been shot down repeatedly by accidently competing with other shows in other slots and its a huge shame (history below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V593fBPzP0c

There is a silver lining though:
Fans come to the rescue again, remastering it in 4K. If it looks blurry, that's just how it looked in its original resolution, due to the mastering and composition techniques and decisions used in production. Genuinely very funny show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwhdOpXGrY

Check the comments of the video for download link. Its a whopping 120GB though. I'm clearing out the space for it as we speak, and this is making me realize I'm due a few upgrades.

The franchise gets a lot of love from fans, including animations and even STL files for 3D printing floating around out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBr2d-rSbAo

It is also available from Apple's store, and someone in the gunpla thread made a Psyco XLR several years ago.

Tokubetsu
Dec 18, 2007

Love Is Not Enough
Sym-Bionic Titan would basically have a similar fate just a few years after Megas =(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMYO8cXFCRs

It aired in HD though and was/is? on Itunes.

Tokubetsu fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Aug 30, 2022

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN
I'm revisiting Gridman and how come nobody told me Kilokhan was voiced by Tim Curry? and how come they didn't get him to come back for the anime?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Hes got a hard time doing much these days after his stroke. He still does things here and there but it's not likely he'd be able to do even voice work without a lot of arrangements

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Tokubetsu posted:

Sym-Bionic Titan would basically have a similar fate just a few years after Megas =(

I was on Sym-Bionic Titan's side, I was excited for it, I had nothing but goodwill towards it, but it was very boring.

Also, it's a show about a combining robot and they went with a design that's straight up impossible to turn into a toy.

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN

Arc Hammer posted:

Hes got a hard time doing much these days after his stroke. He still does things here and there but it's not likely he'd be able to do even voice work without a lot of arrangements

I was unaware of that, wow that's sad

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tsob
Sep 26, 2006

Chalalala~
So transformation is a girl's dream, and combination is a man's dream? :hmmyes:

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EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
whats that screenshot from?

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