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marauders turn into warriors which, from everything i've ever heard (i've never played one myself) are one of the most straightforward and most bulletproof jobs in the game. Jokes about "why is there a healer in this party? tank is a warrior" abound. Good pick.
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Having been tanking for a week now I'm *mostly* over my tankxiety. The only times I'm in trouble are where I forget tank stance or I've forgotten how something works in an alliance raid. I got yelled at in crystal tower labyrinth for not knowing what I was doing, but it was cool we made it through anyways. I'm now in the habit it just googling fights just to see if there's anything special for tanks to be doing. Oh, and that one other time where I accidentally used lb. I was doing a main scenario roulette and fighting ultima. Right at the end someone was like 'get ready to use lb'. Internally I panicked. First was because I hadn't rebound lb to my hotbar. Second was because although I had done this fight a dozen times it'd been a while and I didn't remember the players requiring a lb. Third was because I'm someone who recently made it through the MSQ and there were a couple of boss fights that required a tank lb. So I was like oh poo poo I'm going to gently caress this up. super quickly I tossed lb on my horbar. Someone in chat was like "NOW" and I spammed it. I was not supposed to lb and got scolded. We made it through anyways. People are 90% very cool with how I've been playing. I can absolutely tell though when there's a veteran player who is impatient. I mostly do wall to wall pulls now that I'm out of ARR content, but sometimes I'll forget exactly how far the walls are and I'll pull one less mob or something and the impatient healer/dps will run ahead and pull it themselves. Which is annoying, but I somewhat get it. Ice Fist fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Sep 26, 2022 |
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Sep 26, 2022 17:05
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To be clear, there isn't a LOT of difference between the tanks at 50, and you only get the "lol I can never die" button on war at 56. They're all very straightforward though and have similar 123 combos for bosses and a basic ae for trash. Your dps sucks, your job is just to make enemies hit you instead of anyone else. You WILL forget tank stance at least once (it's removed if you downsync, so you have to apply it manually for most dungeons) so don't freak out if the first pull goes bad cos you forgot. It happens, laugh about it and nobody bat's an eye. Ask me about the one time I wiped an all good exdr in Smileton due to this.  Melee has positional so try not to spin the boss around like a top, rotate cool downs, you'll be fine.
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Sep 26, 2022 17:07
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Ice Fist posted:I mostly do wall to wall pulls now that I'm out of ARR content, but sometimes I'll forget exactly how far the walls are and I'll pull one less mob or something and the impatient healer/dps will run ahead and pull it themselves. Which is annoying, but I somewhat get it. My notes about tanking: -Defensive cooldowns are meant to be used proactively, not reactively. Start using cooldowns during trash pulls like Rampart when you're at 90% HP rather than waiting until you're at 50%. You also generally want to stagger them rather than using them all simultaneously. -You may feel responsible for any wipes or other mistakes but it's not always your fault. Even if you're hitting your cooldowns and the healer is doing all they can to keep you up, a pull can still go bad if the DPS aren't killing fast enough and you+healer run out of resources.
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Awesome, thank you for the advice all! Seems like I picked the "right" class to start off with.
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Sep 26, 2022 18:37
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Are there any YouTube guides that just give the tldr on important poo poo in fights? MTQ is pretty good but she also explains EVERY attack, even when it just boils down to "avoid aoes" or "stack up on the stack up marker" I feel like a video that's just "you need to do X or you die" or "move back in after avoiding this aoe" would be useful. Explaining JUST the not-obvious mechanics of a dungeon / raid.
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Sep 26, 2022 19:31
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CodfishCartographer posted:Are there any YouTube guides that just give the tldr on important poo poo in fights? MTQ is pretty good but she also explains EVERY attack, even when it just boils down to "avoid aoes" or "stack up on the stack up marker" I feel like a video that's just "you need to do X or you die" or "move back in after avoiding this aoe" would be useful. Explaining JUST the not-obvious mechanics of a dungeon / raid. It's a sweet spot that I find difficult to find and one of the reasons I prefer text guides (which are difficult to find at all because they don't have engagement metrics). I can just skim to the parts I'm trying to understand.
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It's probably an underserved audience for a few reasons. Ask 5 different people what an obvious mechanic is and you'll get 5 different answers. And the truly anxious probably want to side with more information than less.
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Plus a lot of people don't actually understand the nuances of most mechanics, they just understand the resolution. This is doubly true for a lot of dungeon stuff where there's a lot of weird one-off quirks that don't really matter.
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Sep 26, 2022 20:56
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I still get ridiculous tankxiety and I've gotten a couple jobs to 50+ now.
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Sep 26, 2022 23:26
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Alisaie has been entertaining since she's been allowed to actually be part of the team. A chip on her shoulder in almost every conversation, she's funny.
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Sep 26, 2022 23:46
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Shinjobi posted:Alisaie has been entertaining since she's been allowed to actually be part of the team. A chip on her shoulder in almost every conversation, she's funny. Alisaie just gets funnier the more you progress the MSQ. It's great.
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Sep 27, 2022 00:03
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Electric Phantasm posted:Alisaie just gets funnier the more you progress the MSQ. It's great. She's my favorite Scion and she's just great.
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Sep 27, 2022 00:07
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Shinjobi posted:Alisaie has been entertaining since she's been allowed to actually be part of the team. A chip on her shoulder in almost every conversation, she's funny. Alisaie isn't my favorite scion but she's a goodun
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Sep 27, 2022 00:19
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S.J. posted:She's my favorite Scion and she's just great. She's so good I wouldn't even call her a Scion.
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Feldegast42 posted:Alisaie isn't my favorite scion but she's a goodun  My personal favorite other than someone who comes in quite late is actually Urianger. Love that nerd. But Alisaie is up there. I don’t really dislike any Scion? The one that comes the closest for me is Y’shtola because I find her very undeveloped.
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Now that I think about it, has she really had her own arc like the others have? I feel like she hasn't.
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S.J. posted:Now that I think about it, has she really had her own arc like the others have? I feel like she hasn't. I'm not even at EW yet but Alisae is cool and my well-characterized friend! Bahamut Raid in ARR(ok fine it's ARR and it's Alisae/A Scion in ARR), the Kobold kid in ARR to HW, showing off that she's a Cool RDM And Your Friend into Stormblood, oh gosh she really cares about the WoL from StB into ShB, the desert zone and then some in ShB.
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Doomykins posted:I'm not even at EW yet but Alisae is cool and my well-characterized friend! Bahamut Raid in ARR(ok fine it's ARR and it's Alisae/A Scion in ARR), the Kobold kid in ARR to HW, showing off that she's a Cool RDM And Your Friend into Stormblood, oh gosh she really cares about the WoL from StB into ShB, the desert zone and then some in ShB. They're talking about Y'shtola.
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Electric Phantasm posted:They're talking about Y'shtola. Oh no I'm a big dummy.
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Sep 27, 2022 01:54
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I started Eureka last night, and I can’t believe they hid some guild wars 2 this far into the game.
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Roach Warehouse posted:I started Eureka last night, and I can’t believe they hid some guild wars 2 this far into the game. Eureka's an interesting thing to come across as someone brand new, since the current implementation is a far cry from what it was on launch. The intention back then was to recapture the spirit of older MMOs like FFXI: soloing was very slow and difficult and not especially rewarding, mounting required zone progression, and dying ate a huge chunk of your EXP bar for how long it took to grind it up. Grouping up with other people to camp specific spots was therefore almost mandatory to get through it at a reasonable clip, and a large amount of intrazone cooperation for things like spawning Notorious Monsters was necessary. It's almost completely soloable nowadays and much easier to progress through, so if you see people complaining about how much they dislike Eureka, it's likely from the experience they had with it back in Stormblood. There's another zone similar to it further down the line in Shadowbringers, although it was designed from the start to be more friendly to casual and solo play, so opinions tend to be more neutral on it. I liked both for what they were, but I'm glad that they're both broadly accessible for new players to enjoy now that they're no longer current content.
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Sep 27, 2022 03:12
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wtf how have i never heard of Eureka before. this looks rad
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Alxprit posted:On controller or keyboard? Both
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Seems like Eureka has very little incentive to do it outside of, I guess, the Stormblood legendary weapon stuff, and a few minions or whatever. You don't get carry-over EXP for all the work you put in.
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Schwartzcough posted:Seems like Eureka has very little incentive to do it outside of, I guess, the Stormblood legendary weapon stuff, and a few minions or whatever. You don't get carry-over EXP for all the work you put in. It is entirely self contained, so yeah, unless you're looking for specific glams, mounts, etc, there isn't.
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It’s got a story to see, and that’s enough for me. Also I got a cool jacket glam on my first trip there.
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Jonny 290 posted:wtf how have i never heard of Eureka before. this looks rad It's rather innocuous side content that's hard to stumble across if you're not looking for it directly, especially since it doesn't tend to draw huge crowds nowadays. There's still usually a good bunch of people trawling around the zones, but it's definitely not something most players are going to know about if they don't already. Schwartzcough posted:Seems like Eureka has very little incentive to do it outside of, I guess, the Stormblood legendary weapon stuff, and a few minions or whatever. You don't get carry-over EXP for all the work you put in. It's got some cool-looking relics, dyeable Stormblood Artifact armor, and several role specific sets of unique-looking armor. It's mostly a casual side thing that you level slowly via the Challenge Log and the occasional group, but it's worth it if you want some otherwise excellent fashion bits.
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If you have an FC that can run you through it (like our goon guilds on Excal) its a blast to play and I would recommend. Its a very chill, relatively low stakes set of fairly pretty zones, and you even get a raid at the end to go through! (Yeah you lose xp on death but the community is good enough that its easy to get a rez to save you that)
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I love dumb bullshit pointless side things right now, as i've promised my friends that im gonna stream my MSQ progress and that's on hold till i sort out my stream setup next week. Gonna check it out this week, thanks!
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Man, the Alchemist role quests are a lot more interesting than I was expecting. I thought it was going to be something like 'make liniment for granny's sore knee', not 'FANTASY CRIME LAB MURDER SPECTACULAR 24-7'.
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Picayune posted:Man, the Alchemist role quests are a lot more interesting than I was expecting. I thought it was going to be something like 'make liniment for granny's sore knee', not 'FANTASY CRIME LAB MURDER SPECTACULAR 24-7'. I'd been wondering how they'd escalate from "elixir of life" into HW, and Fantasy CSI has not disappointed so far.
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Most professions 1-50: "Mastering your craft is about caring for your customers, listening to their needs, and avoiding jerks. Also giving this guy nice wood when he gets depressed." Alchemy 1-50: NECROMANCY! In the end it's always about the friends made along the way.
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S.J. posted:It is entirely self contained, so yeah, unless you're looking for specific glams, mounts, etc, there isn't. It's fun! Also the elemental +1 gear is quite good for blue mage, if that's your thing.
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I would honestly play Eureka if it gave XP like bozja does, I wish they would rework PotD to do 1-50, HoH 51-60 and eureka 61-70, but I guess accessing Onokoro before SB begins is a problem I'd really want to do the content but basically no one plays Eureka on EU/Chaos unless a well known streamers gets in, and from what I could see of it, soloing is not really a good plan
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Eureka on EU/Chaos was full of people the month prior to EW, but that was mostly due to people checking off prior content that they hadn't completed yet (me included). It's pretty much a ghost town now. I mostly did Eureka so that I could do Baldesion Arsenal (which I managed to complete eventually), and I would recommend trying to do BA: there are specific discords in the various data centres that used to regularly schedule runs of it. It's a raid unlike anything else out there (apart from Delubrum Reginae Savage), and although unforgiving, not as hard as it's made out to be. Going to max rank in Eureka is a slog, but IMO doing BA is well worth it.
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Bruceski posted:Most professions 1-50: "Mastering your craft is about caring for your customers, listening to their needs, and avoiding jerks. Also giving this guy nice wood when he gets depressed." Helping jerks until they recognise your talent and (mostly) stop is a far more common theme. Weaver is an exception in its nice customer focus. Beatin is a belligerent and abusive rear end in a top hat. But his name is a funny joke, you see (and the kids like him to be fair).
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Beatin despite being described as harsh and critical is just like all the other mentors who start drooling over you for the most basic things. Geva owns because she gives you exactly how much respect your creations warrant, which starts out as very little.
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iirc the goldsmith mammet also tells you you're garbage but it does that to everyone so 
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