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vyelkin posted:how undemocratic to have a lengthy consultation process with your constituents to build support for a progressive change and then conclude the process with a confirmatory referendum that proves the change has overwhelming support and codifies it into the basic law of your country for the long-term future, you're supposed to do none of that and just hope to convince one or two senile old people that some drunk libertarians two centuries ago wrote in an ambiguous enough way that their words about protecting the rights of slaveowners can technically apply to protecting the rights of minorities, and then do absolutely nothing while reactionaries spend decades building popular support to overturn that decision hey now slaveowners were technically a minority. so protecting slaveowners rights was protecting the rights of a minority.
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https://twitter.com/pandaclairre/status/1574487324582461444?s=46&t=vfrqInTGHMUuHRjSktvl-g this is the same kid who won’t shut the gently caress up about Assad destroying his grandma’s house.
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I mean I will say that the non-binding plebiscite on same-sex marriage in Australia loving sucked and gave way too much space to homo- and transphobes. Just legislating these changes isn't any less democratic, but if it's a shoe-in and you can actually punish anti-social views I guess it's pretty neat to show off your people's progressive views globally.
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Probably helps to not also have every propaganda and media outlet controlled by insane reactionaries sitting on dragon hoards, which is unfortunate because it's something we consider a pre-condition for recognizing a country as properly democratic
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Submission to the plebiscite is an automatic -5 on the Freedom Index.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/pandaclairre/status/1574487324582461444?s=46&t=vfrqInTGHMUuHRjSktvl-g https://twitter.com/skepticalspice/status/1574502588606824457 lol
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I mean I will say that the non-binding plebiscite on same-sex marriage in Australia loving sucked and gave way too much space to homo- and transphobes. Just legislating these changes isn't any less democratic, but if it's a shoe-in and you can actually punish anti-social views I guess it's pretty neat to show off your people's progressive views globally. thats what happens when you have a citizenry embroiled in capitalist media stoked culture wars, and a citizenry not experienced with participating in democracy. also, australians lol
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from what I’ve heard the Australian electoral system is about as fair as you can make one in the context of a liberal democracy and the fact that they keep electing people like that leader of an anti pedo party that turned to be himself a pedo is less an indictment of their electoral system than it is a scathing indictment of the Australian people
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his hairdo is a shell that encases his Atlanticist cyberbrain https://twitter.com/bxragingbull/status/1574489962837426207?s=46&t=vfrqInTGHMUuHRjSktvl-g Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 00:07 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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FrancisFukyomama posted:from what I’ve heard the Australian electoral system is about as fair as you can make one in the context of a liberal democracy and the fact that they keep electing people like that leader of an anti pedo party that turned to be himself a pedo is less an indictment of their electoral system than it is a scathing indictment of the Australian people It's so fair of a system that the merry old queen of England is allowed to coup you if you're like a center leftist who wins there.
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the greens in australia got 12% of the vote and 3% of the seats in the house. not exactly a great systemFrancisFukyomama posted:from what I’ve heard the Australian electoral system is about as fair as you can make one in the context of a liberal democracy what makes you say this over a system like the netherlands?
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[Latin America] Cuba rules and you suck
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saw a person actually argue that America is better because we affirmed gay marriage 7 years ago and Cuba isn’t democratic. uh, who did that again? what have they been doing lately?
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i say swears online posted:the greens in australia got 12% of the vote and 3% of the seats in the house. not exactly a great system lthought they were supposed to have a decent implementation of ranked choice voting but it sounds like im misremembering. my bad
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they have ranked choice for senate and some sort of single-transferable vote system for the house, iirc. it lets in small parties but larger ones and regional interest groups still dominate. i think the senate results are more proportionally fair than the house results, but the senate does staggered elections like the US so you won't see that totally reflected in the final results
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It's gonna be real "funny" when the the US supreme court overturns gay marriage in the next year or two and the oppressive cuban dictatorship of anti-democracy and oppression has it legalized also polycules, I think
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infracels I remember a year or so ago, cspammers were posting about how cool Haz was cause he cursed and said the r slur while yelling at neocons about extremely basic Marxism. lol
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is he actually still popular after single-handedly losing his entire country's wealth on bitcoin scams
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indigi posted:infracels and at that point his yelling at neocons was funny and "cool", but time passed and he turned into a freak
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https://walterlippmann.com/cuban-families-code-2022-summary/ Wording on the family code is really forward thinking. I don't think even the most "liberal" countries on the west could have passed something like that.
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None of us can because afaik no western country has any kind of governmental structure that can realize popular participation in the development of the issue like Cuba does. Tens of thousands of suggestions from the public worked over a course of years? Ain't never happening here or Europe or Japan.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:None of us can because afaik no western country has any kind of governmental structure that can realize popular participation in the development of the issue like Cuba does. Tens of thousands of suggestions from the public worked over a course of years? Ain't never happening here or Europe or Japan. https://www.change.org/l/us/change-org-releases-top-ten-petitions-that-changed-2021 quote:LeVar Burton for Jeopardy Host (296,000+ signatures): After icon Alex Trebek’s tragic death, super fan Joshua Sanders started a petition urging Jeopardy to choose LeVar Burton as the next host. Sanders cited his legacy of Black representation on Star Trek and literacy efforts through Reading Rainbow as the perfect fit. The petition went viral, gaining massive fan and celebrity support. Burton eventually guest-hosted the show, and while it wasn’t the right fit, the fan outcry led to a new opportunity. Burton announced he’d be hosting the new Trivial Pursuit game show in 2022, making this a victory to Joshua and Burton’s legions of fans. 
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Plutonis posted:https://walterlippmann.com/cuban-families-code-2022-summary/ i also liked this summary: quote:The new code guarantees the right of all people to form a family without discrimination, legalizing same sex marriage and allowing same sex couples to adopt children. Under the new code, parental rights will be shared among extended and non-traditional family structures that could include grandparents, step parents and surrogate mothers. The code also adds novelties such as prenuptial agreements and assisted reproduction.
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but wait I thought only western chauvinists and people of Christian races cared about family
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please, ghosts of fidel and che, my country yearns for freedom
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ekuNNN posted:i also liked this summary: Cuba ftw
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Pablo Nergigante posted:Cuba ftw
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Epic High Five posted:Only communism can deliver legally recognized polyamory shut up
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i say swears online posted:the greens in australia got 12% of the vote and 3% of the seats in the house. not exactly a great system just like every other country, our Greens are focused in the socially progressive cities. what's the Netherlands system?
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