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K8.0 posted:I find Mindustry to have a bad UI and be finnicky to build, but it may be the best version of what you're looking for. Yeah I wanted to like Mindustry a lot more than I did. I still go back to it on the mobile version occasionally and can get decently far in but give up once things get too crazy because the UI/building.
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I just basically want Emperor:RotMK with full 3D gigantic maps and a modern UI. Or same but Simcity 3000. Either one. I don't ask for much.
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I want a game that is basically stronghold crusader, except the scale is supreme commander and instead of building walls you're landscaping mountains, and it's paced like a 4X. Start at a point, explore the terrain, build more settlements and industry and defenses to fight off other factions and ambient threats, eventually reach a full electronic/information warfare element and managing troop allocations across fronts. I guess maybe like a more RTS style Shadow Empire. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Oct 16, 2022 |
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explosivo posted:Yeah I wanted to like Mindustry a lot more than I did. I still go back to it on the mobile version occasionally and can get decently far in but give up once things get too crazy because the UI/building. I think Mindustry basically expects you to make/save blueprints that do things like make a cluster that does all the sorting/manufacturing and the only thing you do manually is route the right ingredients into the right input belts. My main complaint about the game is if you don't do that you can never keep up with the waves, but if you DO do that then every level is just reduced to plopping down the same blueprints and building a giant wall of turrets a million times faster than the enemy waves will ramp up, so you just hold fast-forward until the waves all die on your death wall.
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Eric the Mauve posted:I just basically want Emperor:RotMK with full 3D gigantic maps and a modern UI. Or same but Simcity 3000. Either one. I don't ask for much. The whole gaming universe has been jonesing for a refreshed sim city 4K for at least ten years, probably longer. It seems like a no brainer but maybe EA couldn't figure out how to cram endless dlc into it. Skylines and that abomination sim city that spawned it don't count.
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Oct 16, 2022 21:29
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xzzy posted:I want factorio with less logistic optimizing but more base defense. I know there's mods that go in that direction but they're all way too involved, I just wanna strip mine the earth and use it to ever more effectively blow up stuff that hates me. Riftbreaker as xzzy said and also consider Dyson Sphere Program AFTER the update that's supposed to come next year that will add combat. It's a solid game as it is but obviously doesn't fit your base defense thing right now, as is.
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Riftbreaker is an excellent Factorio-lite with lots of shooting. Emphasis on "lite" for the Factorio comparison, almost all the logistics are automagic (you need some pipes, that's about it) but the base building is pretty satisfying and the combat/tower defense is great. It has a free demo that gives a pretty good picture of what the full game is like.
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xzzy posted:The whole gaming universe has been jonesing for a refreshed sim city 4K for at least ten years, probably longer. It seems like a no brainer but maybe EA couldn't figure out how to cram endless dlc into it. Paradox certainly figured it out. But EA is less about DLC per se and more about microtransactions, which is why they're hostile to modding, and a city sim without copious modding support is a non-starter. I hope to live long enough to see a proper modernized SC4. But it will have to come from an indie.
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K8.0 posted:I find Mindustry to have a bad UI and be finnicky to build, but it may be the best version of what you're looking for. Riftbreaker is a fun factory base builder and looks very pretty, too. Be warned though: it's also more of an action game with tower defense than a factory sim.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Mine is a village builder where you start with 1 or 2 unique people and work your way from "what am fire?" to a space program Have you tried The Universim yet? It’s almost out of Early Access https://store.steampowered.com/app/352720/The_Universim/
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skeleton warrior posted:Have you tried The Universim yet? It’s almost out of Early Access Almost? Christ, I backed that on Kickstarter in 2014
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skeleton warrior posted:Have you tried The Universim yet? It’s almost out of Early Access Honestly the graphics and the seemingly small globe are a bit offputting, how crunchy is it? Also does "Early Access" even mean anything any more?
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Also does "Early Access" even mean anything any more? Yeah it means "selling wishes and dreams to rubes for actual money"
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Eric the Mauve posted:I just basically want Emperor:RotMK with full 3D gigantic maps and a modern UI. Or same but Simcity 3000. Either one. I don't ask for much. They are kind of doing that with Pharaoh. Played the demo and it had promise. Too bad it has no release date.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Honestly the graphics and the seemingly small globe are a bit offputting, how crunchy is it? It's around Settlers level crunchy: people have needs like food and water and shelter, so you need to make buildings that provide those things, but it would be easier if you got the materials needed to make those buildings automatically, so let's make some of those buildings and wait now you need more people to staff those buildings so now more buildings for food and water and shelter and also now you need to maintain those buildings and hold on people need government and now a place to eat and okay, things are balancing and we're at an even keel and oh god there's a wolf attack and apparently winter happens and stops all our water sources and okay well we don't need more shelter now I guess we need to research graveyards ooh didn't get that done in time better research hospitals to keep dead body rot from spreading and... The main things that keep it from being especially crunchy are that you don't have a huge amount of control over logistics - you can make and staff warehouses, and control what they accept and what they don't, but there's not a lot of expectation that you'll micromanage that; the other big thing you don't really control are roads - the game shows you an overlay of expected roads when you build things, and will build out those roads as you put out new buildings (or change the overlay as you put buildings in places that block it, but that might mean that you don't get roads where you expect or want them). So it's not logistically crunchy like Anno games; it's much more plate spinning about making sure you're getting enough resources of the right type while managing energy production and waste production. Technically it's also a God Game, in that you're a God for these guys and can use your powers to change land, blow up their enemies, make them fall in love with each other to propagate certain traits, and need to care about keeping people worshipping you so that you have the power to do those things. As for Early Access - the devs have been adding more and more to later ages with occasional balance passes; the space age stuff is pretty new and I really haven't touched it as it was added since I last played a year ago. They claim they're releasing the final version in a few months. skeleton warrior fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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I'm making progress on my quest to rediscover the Impressions Games city builder series. Finished Zeus a while ago and started with Pharaoh after a huge relapse into Total War: Warhammer 3. I'm progressing into Pharaoh's campaign, and while I love the aesthetics and feels of the game, going back to an older entry of the series is a huge setback in QoL. To put it bluntly, I had forgotten how incredibly annoying it is to play on anything higher than normal difficulty; not having access to global housing and religion are some of the biggest offenders for me. I know this is some really old news for anyone who has played the series before. Due to all of this, I decided to take a break (and maybe wait for the remake) and buy Nebuchadnezzar. My first impression is that the developers played a ton of Caesar III, loved it but hated all the old school design and decided to streamline the hell out of it. There's a lot of good design choices here but some dubious ones as well (why trade is locked until you go through some loops when it's the only reliable way to make money? and why are docks so difficult to place down?). On one hand, I like how the game deals with some of the main complaints I have about the classic series, mainly: Too much hidden information, lack of QoL features and poor control over your city and walker system. On the other hand, I have the feeling that removing all of those features greatly lowers the difficulty and once you have a stable city, it stays stable forever unless you conciously gently caress it up, and it let's you get away with a lot of sloppy choices. My only real complaint is that the game feels a bit barebones although the devs are working on a big patch that will introduce more content. Still, a good choice if you want to experience a modern take on the classic Impressions Games.
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Ichabod Sexbeast posted:Mine is a village builder where you start with 1 or 2 unique people and work your way from "what am fire?" to a space program unique people aside, i think there's a Civ4 mod that roughly does that. Caveman2Cosmos or something. there was an LP of it a few years ago back.
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:unique people aside, i think there's a Civ4 mod that roughly does that. Caveman2Cosmos or something. there was an LP of it a few years ago back. Welp, so much for writing my thesis!
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I've been tootling around with Coral Island on GamePass during the weekend, and while it's fairly enjoyable, holy poo poo does it feel like a Stardew Valley reskin. The art and presentation are great, but the progress loop is exactly the same as SV, including speaking to spirits and completing That said, there are some other more unique mechanics, including diving and clearing the island of pollution, and I like the fact that trash is actually incredibly useful for many things.
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xzzy posted:I want factorio with less logistic optimizing but more base defense. I know there's mods that go in that direction but they're all way too involved, I just wanna strip mine the earth and use it to ever more effectively blow up stuff that hates me. You could try warptorio? It's a mod where the biter aggression and growth is tuned way up, but you have a small platform to warp to a new map hopefully before they overrun you. It turns the game kind of on it's head, because you're forced to beeline to automated defences as soon as possible, and have to try to extract as much raw resources as you can before the biters overrun you
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I kinda hate rimworld for popularizing the "every resource item at every stage is an icon that takes up space and needs to be stored in a physical location" bullshit. half the reason i can't get into medieval dynasty is the storage poo poo. just store everything as numbers after its processed and let me focus on cooler poo poo. everything needs to be schlepped around and is rotting
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smarxist posted:I kinda hate rimworld for popularizing the "every resource item at every stage is an icon that takes up space and needs to be stored in a physical location" bullshit. half the reason i can't get into medieval dynasty is the storage poo poo. just store everything as numbers after its processed and let me focus on cooler poo poo. everything needs to be schlepped around and is rotting There are mods for Rimworld that change that.
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i think I've mentioned it in the thread/last thread before, but I think the real time component of these survival strategy games might be hindering optimal gameplay. Any real time game that has speed settings is generally only paused or on maximum speed, and almost never anything in between unless you are doing it purely for aesthetic or personal enjoyment reasons. I couldn't imagine a rimworld game from fire to spaceship running in real time. I'm starting to think going back to turn based systems might be a better way to go. Card Survival: Tropical Island has been a very refreshing take on survival strategy, chunking actions into discrete time units has been far more satisfying than 'wait to gather x - wait to haul x to y - wait for worker to process x into z at location y - wait to move z to storage - haul z from storage back to location y so it can be further refined' is leading to 'rimworld' fatigue. StarDeus should basically be my favorite game of all time, but idk I'm starting to run out of steam watching lil dudes cart stuff around.
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I was a playtester for nearly all of the Impressions games, long long ago. One thing I like about both Satisfactory and Factory Town is that there's no speed controls. The time moves on at the same rate.
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Grevlek posted:i think I've mentioned it in the thread/last thread before, but I think the real time component of these survival strategy games might be hindering optimal gameplay. I kinda agree for the management part of rimworld but turn-based combat is a wholly different monster
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Grevlek posted:Any real time game that has speed settings is generally only paused or on maximum speed, and almost never anything in between unless you are doing it purely for aesthetic or personal enjoyment reasons. Not quite "in real time" but I find speed 2 ideal for Rimworld, outside of combat (where of course it's on speed 1 since it auto sets you to that). Not so fast you can't react to things or plan projects, not so slow its a crawl. Speeds other than maximum have merits! For a lot of games, though, I agree with you.
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Radiation Cow posted:I've been tootling around with Coral Island on GamePass during the weekend, and while it's fairly enjoyable, holy poo poo does it feel like a Stardew Valley reskin. The art and presentation are great, but the progress loop is exactly the same as SV, including speaking to spirits and completing I watched the preview video for it while Dyson Sphere was installing, and it really did look like a Stardew reskin. If it comes out on Switch it will likely occupy >500 hours of my wife's time.
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Radiation Cow posted:I've been tootling around with Coral Island on GamePass during the weekend, and while it's fairly enjoyable, holy poo poo does it feel like a Stardew Valley reskin. The art and presentation are great, but the progress loop is exactly the same as SV, including speaking to spirits and completing I backed it on kickstarter and hosed around in the alpha for a bit before realizing I probably don't want to burn myself out before I can actually smooch the characters etc, but it's p good imo! Also worked tolerably on the steam deck even without proper mapping yet.
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My only issue with it being a Stardew reskin is that I'm still playing Stardew all the time so I dunno if I need another one. But it's on gamepass so I don't have to decide, whee
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Damnit I'm here thinking about buying Planet Zoo again now that it's on a fairly deep sale. Edit: I done did it. explosivo fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Oct 17, 2022 |
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explosivo posted:Damnit I'm here thinking about buying Planet Zoo again now that it's on a fairly deep sale. I know this speaks more to the state of my brain than the games, but something about running a zoo gives me the feelbads that I never get when I have starving humans in management games or when I'm brutally colonizing poo poo in a 4x game or anything else.
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Planet Zoo has a bunch of good stuff about matching habitat to exhibit and providing rotating enrichment while a main goal is breed and release endangered animals. The latter is also what manifests into the multiplayer wildlife market feeling like a weird black market back room as you search for someone's rare endangered animals with perfect breeder genes to start your endangered animal export farm. So you win some and lose some.
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I got through like 1.5 tutorials in Planet Zoo and I'm already kinda bummed thinking about how once I get to make my own zoo it's never going to look a goddamn thing like these  It is really impressive what you can make with the tools in that game. I just don't know if I have the patience to meticulously hand-craft everything which is why I'm probably going to plonk down square exhibits.
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Planet Zoo is a game I really like in theory but the landscaping and editing tools are way too much for a casual/chill play session.
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They're about to release a pack with raccoons and bats and red foxes in it and I'm excited to make 'What We Do in the Shadows: The Zoo' and have it all just trashed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19JYOVPmwDM this one was so good lol
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archangelwar posted:Food stocking and consumption in the game is something they are reworking in the next big update because right now it is just waaaay off. I’ve had settlers with pockets full of fruit develop and die of scurvy without ever trying to eat their fruit. I’ve had houses stock tons of dried meat and nothing else despite having a thriving veggie economy and never be able to upgrade. I’ve had all my clay pots stock to a single house. I’ve had a market place only ever stock 3 houses and the employee turns around half-way on the trip to the other houses repeatedly. I thought it must have been a bug, as my food production was massive. I had 126 people and somehow 1000 root vegetables, 500 smoked meat and bread, and 200 smoked fish was not enough food for a single month. I restarted and have been keeping at least 5 months going into winter, so whatever the bug is hasn't happened (yet). I also just realized you can refocus the area of a gathering building recently, which is nice so i don't have to waste too much time building and rebuilding them The most annoying thing I've found is the trade system. Why add that step to actually transfer things to the trading post than just using universal stockpiles? Its a step that yes, may be realistic but its just another annoying button press.
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Anyone try out Potionomics? If so, I'm curious to hear your thoughts! Game looks pretty fun and it looks like they spent a lot of time on polish. The characters I've seen in the preview videos look very well animated.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Planet Zoo is a game I really like in theory but the landscaping and editing tools are way too much for a casual/chill play session. It really depends on whether you can still get the same satisfaction through using workshop items. The biggest problem with Planet Coaster was if you used a workshop item, there was pretty much no game after that. Planet Zoo still suffers from this a wee bit, but there's alot more of a management side to it that keeps you going. They're both really weird games in that they should be great fun, but as said, if you're a casual play person it just kind of doesn't work.
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Jimbot posted:Anyone try out Potionomics? If so, I'm curious to hear your thoughts! Game looks pretty fun and it looks like they spent a lot of time on polish. The characters I've seen in the preview videos look very well animated. We're talking about it (a bit) in the Farm, Fish, and... thread. Summary: it's good! It you liked Recettear, it's that but with neat new mechanics. Creating potions is a matter of combining ingredients with different attributes so that you balance the right attributes enough, and there's a lot of ingredients with various attributes to make for good, fun puzzles. Selling potions is a haggling mini-game where you play cards from your hand to try and increase the price, but the more cards you play (and the bigger those cards), the more stress you have. Beyond that, it's well written and very cute.
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