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worms butthole guy posted:I've literally never read a King book. If you had to choose one....what one Practically any of the short story collections are fine to good. Earlier the better, imo. So, Night Shift.
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worms butthole guy posted:I've literally never read a King book. If you had to choose one....what one The Shining. I also recently just read Under the Dome and thought it was fantastic. A great premise and execution but it's very long. quote:On an entirely normal, beautiful fall day in Chester's Mill, Maine, the town is inexplicably and suddenly sealed off from the rest of the world by an invisible force field. Planes crash into it and fall from the sky in flaming wreckage, a gardener's hand is severed as "the dome" comes down on it, people running errands in the neighboring town are divided from their families, and cars explode on impact. No one can fathom what this barrier is, where it came from, and when - or if - it will go away.
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worms butthole guy posted:I've literally never read a King book. If you had to choose one....what one Night Shift.
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PKMN Trainer Red posted:Night Shift. Yeah this is the one. If you don't love at least half the stories in there, Stephen King is just not your writer.
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NikkolasKing posted:In case anybody else hasn't read about this I’m not going to defend Kubrick’s treatment of Duvall and if that’s disqualifying, so be it. But I strongly disagree with King’s statement concerning Wendy that “She is basically just there to scream and be stupid and that’s not the woman that I wrote about."- that feels to me a false characterization of her character and very belittling to an incredible performance that Duvall gives. And it’s Duvall, not Kubrick’s nonsense, that I give credit for that performance. WeaponX fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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Oct 18, 2022 03:50
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The_Doctor posted:Did you see Nick Digilio? Just looked him up and, no, I did not.
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It's generally agreed on that King is a better short story writer than a novelist, and while that's not entirely true, there's a strong bone of credibility in it.
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Oct 18, 2022 03:56
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Timeless Appeal posted:But yeah, Kubrick was also a schmuck as opposed to King who for all his faults and challenges seems like a pretty decent guy. King may be a much nicer dude than Kubrick ever was, but Kubrick is one of the greatest filmmakers who ever lived and The Shining is a masterpiece. Essential viewing for those into film.
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A collector’s version of Ghostwatch is coming out on Blu-ray in October for UK peeps, and December for US peeps. Currently it’s $20 on preorder on Amazon US, which is a great price.
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WeaponX posted:I’m not going to defend Kubrick’s treatment of Duvall and if that’s disqualifying, so be it. But I strongly disagree with King’s statement concerning Wendy that “She is basically just there to scream and be stupid and that’s not the woman that I wrote about."- that feels to me a false characterization of her character and very belittling to an incredible performance that Duvall gives. And it’s Duvall, not Kubrick’s nonsense, that I give credit for that performance.
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Hollismason posted:Here's a good one whats the best horror film that you've never seen, apparently for me its Hausu. Letterboxd by average rating:... The Angela Lansbury version of Sweeney Todd? Then Kwaidan.
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Hollismason posted:Here's a good one whats the best horror film that you've never seen, apparently for me its Hausu. I've never seen The Exorcist in spite of having seen some of the sequels and I've really got no excuse for that. Catholic horror really gets to me and I've liked other Friedkin movies! I don't know why I haven't!
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Mover posted:I hadn’t watched the original Halloween until this year, I am now unshamed tho I never thought the original Halloween as that great. It seems like a very straightforward slasher kind of movie without much depth to the characters. The Rob Zombie remake fixed that. I know, my opinion is probably bad. :\
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Burkion posted:It's generally agreed on that King is a better short story writer than a novelist, and while that's not entirely true, there's a strong bone of credibility in it. His short stories are always good, but the novels are about a 50/50 crapshoot on good or not.
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Bula Vinaka posted:. The Rob Zombie remake fixed that. fixed that for ya
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In regards to Halloween, the new trilogy has my fav mask 
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Burkion posted:It's generally agreed on that King is a better short story writer than a novelist, and while that's not entirely true, there's a strong bone of credibility in it. Completely ridiculous. King has more esteemed and quality novels than almost any other US author, horror or not, plus extraordinary short story collections
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Oct 18, 2022 06:10
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https://twitter.com/RebekahMcKendry/status/1581898364144144384?s=20&t=if-No_zQoRVOZvpUAOgFlQ
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Oct 18, 2022 06:18
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That person is super scared of something that isn’t that scary You could kill them with your own pee
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el oso posted:Completely ridiculous. King has more esteemed and quality novels than almost any other US author, horror or not, plus extraordinary short story collections How does that contradict comparison between his own works?
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Oct 18, 2022 06:36
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i generally dislike King but I really like the Stand
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Oct 18, 2022 06:37
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Stephen King's great but he also wrote UNDER THE DOME and therefore deserves the electric chair
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Oct 18, 2022 06:45
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STAC Goat posted:The Shining is a great movie. The problem with the adaption has just always been that Kubrick completely flipped the entire point of the book. And that was personal to King so obviously he was bothered by it. But fans get mad when an adaption dramatically changes a key element of the original work all the time. So the way that criticism of the Shining has always been dismissed out of hand and mocked has always seemed really lovely. King has been open about the fact that in his 20s he was a drunk and a bad drunk, and that he's eternally blessed that Tabby stayed with him. Jack Torrance is an autobiographical character, with King putting his own worst fears on the page. Book Jack is, like King, a drunk in recovery, and the Overlook uses that as a way to slip into him and make him fall. But movie Jack is an abusive rear end in a top hat right from the start and all the Overlook does is set him off. drat right King took that personally.
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Well he should get over it bc he gave up the rights or whatever to an adaptation and a good adaptation doesn’t do it 1:1
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Oct 18, 2022 10:18
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How often does Shudder remove movies and add new ones? I signed up for a 7-day trial through Amazon, and I’m trying to decide if I should keep it. I’m extremely impressed by the selection I see now and I’ve spent most waking hours over the past couple of days watching films I’ve never seen, and ones I haven’t seen in years, but I’m just wondering how often they add other titles.
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Oct 18, 2022 10:50
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SoR Blaze posted:Just watched The Night House last night and really dug it. Anyone got recommendations for atmospheric ghost stories that have well-acted human drama at the center? The movie The Night House reminded me the most of is The Changeling.
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Jedit posted:King has been open about the fact that in his 20s he was a drunk and a bad drunk, and that he's eternally blessed that Tabby stayed with him. Jack Torrance is an autobiographical character, with King putting his own worst fears on the page. Book Jack is, like King, a drunk in recovery, and the Overlook uses that as a way to slip into him and make him fall. But movie Jack is an abusive rear end in a top hat right from the start and all the Overlook does is set him off. drat right King took that personally. I know all this, have known for years, and I’ve struggled for a long time with the same problems King has. I’m also well familiar with his abuse of Shelly Duvall on the set. It’s all bad but nonetheless I think The Shining is my #1 favorite horror flick of all time. I can understand King’s negative reaction to the film’s changing of things. I may be way off base on this, but I think there’s a misunderstanding about him writing this book. I don’t think he was in recovery and sober when he wrote this. It was published in 1977 or 78 and I think he was far from sober then. Correct me if I am wrong. It may not have been a cry for help but it was at least him looking at himself, either consciously or subconsciously, and making a statement about that, about addiction. Either way, it was indeed a very personal thing, for him. But Kubrick wanted to go a different way with it. Kubrick’s Jack Torrance is clearly unhinged from the beginning, which is the real departure from the book. My opinion on Kubrick is that he’s one of the greatest directors of all time, and it’s fascinating to see him dipping his toe into the horror pool here. And like all Kubrick stuff except the very early ones, every single line-reading, every performance, everything you see in the background, every camera angle, and everything you hear that’s diegetic and everything you hear on the score is the way it is, because he wanted it to be that way. You may not like it, and I understand if you don’t. There’s a made-for-tv miniseries that is closer to the book, if anyone would rather watch that, and while it’s nowhere near as good as Kubrick, it does have a couple moments that book readers will dig. But if there are horror fans here who have never seen the Kubrick film (and I now know there are), do yourself a favor. Horror is an acquired taste and a lot of us have different tastes, but I don’t think I’m off-base in saying the execution, the whole picture/cinematography/sound/performances/score in The Shining has to put it near the top of greatest horror films ever.
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If you want to start with a novel instead of short stories, I'd recommend 'Salem's Lot or Pet Semetary. Both are really strong and neither are the 1000 page doorstops that King is known for.Jedit posted:King has been open about the fact that in his 20s he was a drunk and a bad drunk, and that he's eternally blessed that Tabby stayed with him. Jack Torrance is an autobiographical character, with King putting his own worst fears on the page. Book Jack is, like King, a drunk in recovery, and the Overlook uses that as a way to slip into him and make him fall. But movie Jack is an abusive rear end in a top hat right from the start and all the Overlook does is set him off. drat right King took that personally. Book Jack was also a monster, he was just a monster being described by someone who thought he was only slightly worse than himself. Jack needs a new job because he hospitalized a kid for pranking him and "accidentally" broke his own son's arm. Kubrick saw that and used it to refute King's take on him. Compare Jack (the monster written sympathetically by an unreliable author) against Humbert Humbert (a monster described sympathetically as an unreliable narrator as a rebuke by the author).
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King is really known for his sprawling writing and mixing in multiple weird fantastic elements into his horror, but I think the most tightly written book he ever did is a The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon which has yet to develop much of a reputation but I quite like. It’s a small scale story about a little girl who gets separated from her family and lost in the woods and starts to see something following her, which may be a bear, might be something more, or might just be her imagination. It’s only 200 pages and just a bit more real and focused in its character work.
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The Shining is great, just an unrelenting bad dream with the worst dad in earth and best mom on the planet. also it has some insane impossible architecture which just makes the whole thing much more disorienting and dreamy https://youtu.be/0sUIxXCCFWw
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Rental Sting posted:King may be a much nicer dude than Kubrick ever was, but Kubrick is one of the greatest filmmakers who ever lived and The Shining is a masterpiece. Essential viewing for those into film. Baron von Eevl posted:Book Jack was also a monster, he was just a monster being described by someone who thought he was only slightly worse than himself. Jack needs a new job because he hospitalized a kid for pranking him and "accidentally" broke his own son's arm. Kubrick saw that and used it to refute King's take on him. Compare Jack (the monster written sympathetically by an unreliable author) against Humbert Humbert (a monster described sympathetically as an unreliable narrator as a rebuke by the author).
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I liked Halloween Ends. What a crazy movie.
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Road runner, That coyote’s after you Road Runner, If he catches you, you’re through!
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alf_pogs posted:The Shining is great, just an unrelenting bad dream with the worst dad in earth and best mom on the planet. I was going to refute that, but after watching that video, I can definitely see it as a directorial choice to make the Overlook subliminally disorienting, especially considering how much time the camera spends following people. It's definitely something you wouldn't really notice outright unless you were really paying attention. Also the Marathon engine would have handled a map of the Overlook 
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I think the other thing worth mentioning when you talk about King and The Shining adaptation is that a good number of the things that stick with a person about The Shining aren't from the book, they were only in the movie. Blood elevator, for one. Whatever he thought of the movie, King made it and it's ending canon in the sequel Doctor Sleep.
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graventy posted:Whatever he thought of the movie, King made it and it's ending canon in the sequel Doctor Sleep. ...No he didn't? Doctor Sleep kept the book's ending. The Overlook was burned down by the boiler, Dick Halloran lived a fulfilling life after the events, Jack's spirit survived despite his possession and part of him always remained "good". What aspects of the film do you think King kept for Doctor Sleep?
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Iron Crowned posted:Also the Marathon engine would have handled a map of the Overlook Anybody who hasn't should track down the Redrum TC for Duke Nukem 3D. The map author did a fantastic job of recreating the Overlook, and used clever BUILD engine effects like the impossible courtyard where a sector overlaps with the hallway behind it and stuff like that. I think there are a few hallways that shouldn't be possible but there are invisible teleports that patch the hallway sections together. I think he took a few liberties too but for the most part it feels exactly like it should.
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Franchescanado posted:...No he didn't? Doctor Sleep kept the book's ending. The Overlook was burned down by the boiler, Dick Halloran lived a fulfilling life after the events, Jack's spirit survived despite his possession and part of him always remained "good". What aspects of the film do you think King kept for Doctor Sleep? Doctor Sleep takes the Overlook burning down and moves it from the end of The Shining to the end of Doctor Sleep. In Doctor Sleep it's not burned down yet, Danny has to do it himself.
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Basebf555 posted:Doctor Sleep takes the Overlook burning down and moves it from the end of The Shining to the end of Doctor Sleep. In Doctor Sleep it's not burned down yet, Danny has to do it himself. Maybe in the film, which I still haven't seen, but not the novel. The finale takes place where the Overlook burned down. King didn't write the screenplay, but he did approve of Flanagan's changes.
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Franchescanado posted:Maybe in the film, which I still haven't seen, but not the novel. The finale takes place where the Overlook burned down. King didn't write the screenplay, but he did approve of Flanagan's changes. Right sorry I misread, thought we were talking about the movie.
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