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FungiCap posted:I'm legitimately wondering if we will ever see mass IPv6 adoption in our lifetimes and I'm not even that old.
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eventually one of the major players who thinks they can dictate to the rest of the tech world so, apple is going to say gently caress it, ipv4 is going away in the next OS, everyone deal with it or get a whole lot of complaints from our numerous and rich customers
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Oct 18, 2022 19:51
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you losers should get a good ISP like Comcast if you want IPv6
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Oct 18, 2022 19:55
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FungiCap posted:The answer to ipv4 woes is always just another layer of NAT! You could easily add NAT64 which comes in LSN, STL and CLAT variants.
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Oct 18, 2022 20:19
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i went to college and i still think ipv6 is too complicated for the layman. how the gently caress am i supposed to mnemonically remember 128 bits at least ipv4 is like a telephone number, and the human brain is pretty good at remembering phone numbers
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Oct 18, 2022 20:33
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go play outside Skyler posted:i went to college and i still think ipv6 is too complicated for the layman. it's why we have this thing called the domain name system
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Oct 18, 2022 20:34
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:when has anyone ever argued that the layperson is supposed to remember ipv4 or ipv6 addresses, when they can't remember phone numbers? i don't believe we'll ever be able to stop having to type ip addresses or compare and remember them. ipv6 plainly sucks for that nat is fine and there's absolutely no reason to not be using both ipv4 and ipv6 in parallel forever. it's not like a physical port on a machine that has a cost or a security risk like some old protocols
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Oct 18, 2022 20:39
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when I was an incredibly stupid teen in the winXP era I set up a laserjet 5si to rawdog the internet on port 9100 and that was enough for me to never want publicly routable addresses on my network again not even on the router
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Oct 18, 2022 20:48
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go play outside Skyler posted:i went to college and i still think ipv6 is too complicated for the layman. you dont, you concatenate the zeroes, but I'm sure you already knew that
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Oct 18, 2022 20:49
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especially on the router
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Oct 18, 2022 20:50
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lol what i don't remember ip addresses. i assign them and put them in hosts file or ssh config or whatever. and as mentioned above there are lots of shortcuts we take in writing v6 addresses for ipv6 to be "too complicated" you have to be loving up at so many levels it's not funny (yes it is, it's very funny)
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Oct 18, 2022 20:54
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I think I can remember IP addresses but then I always get them confused "Oh yea that IP was a cobaltstrike redirector of UNC-such-and-such" [narrator] It was something completely different
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Oct 18, 2022 20:57
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ipv6 sucks rear end and im never going to use it
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Oct 18, 2022 21:11
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ipv4 should be private only and ipv6 should be public only
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Oct 18, 2022 21:13
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idgaf if ipv6 can be shortened internally because i can use ipv4 on my internal network public ipv6 addresses are long and unmemorable and sorry about your nameserver fantasies but you will always eventually have to type one by hand also my point about keeping both alive at the same time still stands. it literally costs nothing e: exactly what the other poster said: ipv6 for public addressing and ipv4 for private. it's just fine.
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Oct 18, 2022 21:25
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ipv6 should have just been i.p.v.6.i.p.v.4
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Oct 18, 2022 21:44
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go play outside Skyler posted:idgaf if ipv6 can be shortened internally because i can use ipv4 on my internal network i have never, ever had to type one by hand and i've been using it on my networks (via tunnelbroker for the most part) for like 15 years now
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Shaggar posted:ipv6 sucks rear end and im never going to use it lol bad news
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Oct 18, 2022 21:52
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even a monkey can remember 16 octets are you stupider than a monkey?
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i have typed them out by hand but that's because folks tend to forget ipv6 needs firewalls too and also that link-local autoconfigured IP's exist
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spankmeister posted:i have typed them out by hand but that's because folks tend to forget ipv6 needs firewalls too i copy and paste for firewall stuff i think the closest i've come to typing one out by hand was copy and pasting a prefix and then adding ::1
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Oct 18, 2022 21:59
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lmao imagine choosing this as your hill
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Oct 18, 2022 22:24
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if you're routinely typing in ipv4 addresses (that aren't specifically-chosen-to-be-memorable DNS server addresses) then you're really doing something wrong
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Oct 18, 2022 22:26
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Actually if you're "routinely" typing in DNS server addresses then you're also doing something wrong, probably related to touching computers too much, but I can accept needing to do that very occasionally
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Oct 18, 2022 22:27
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My ISP offers ipv6 addresses (and by addresses i mean a block so large i could never use them even in a million years) for free and its great
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Oct 18, 2022 22:42
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shame on an IGA posted:when I was an incredibly stupid teen in the winXP era I set up a laserjet 5si to rawdog the internet on port 9100 and that was enough for me to never want publicly routable addresses on my network again okay. why? seriously, what was the use case for that?
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Oct 18, 2022 22:54
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Shaggar posted:ipv6 sucks rear end and im never going to use it
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Oct 18, 2022 22:56
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Buck Turgidson posted:My ISP offers ipv6 addresses (and by addresses i mean a block so large i could never use them even in a million years) for free and its great yeah that's how it's supposed to work. A /48 is standard but some ISP's are more stingy and give out a /64. still way, way more addresses than you could ever need
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Oct 18, 2022 23:04
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How am I supposed to beat Uplink if I have to type in these ipv6 addresses. Ridiculous. SMDH
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Oct 18, 2022 23:06
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Buck Turgidson posted:My ISP offers ipv6 addresses (and by addresses i mean a block so large i could never use them even in a million years) for free and its great
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Oct 18, 2022 23:10
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ipv6 owns and for you ipv4 on lan and ipv6 public folks, you still need proper ipv6 addresses internally, so i dont get the argument
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Oct 18, 2022 23:12
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spankmeister posted:still way, way more addresses than you could ever need well yeah. thats why you get like 8 of em at the same time
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Oct 18, 2022 23:14
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the weirdest thing is that steam doesnt work on ipv6-only networks, i'd think that would be a ripe thing to get working. cs:go and such are hardcoded to ipv4, you cant get it to work at all on v6. it's weird. maybe shaggar switched jobs to valve
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Oct 18, 2022 23:15
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lol it's because they're based off of quake
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infernal machines posted:okay. why? so my friends could print things in glorious laser quality instead of dragging whatever $30 inkjet out of their closet and finding out the nozzles had dried out anyway and then just come pick it up or I'd bring it when I saw them next while not having to deal with getting the files from them or having a copy of whatever software they were using myself. Kind of a limited access private print shop in a place where the nearest actual print shop was an hour+ drive. In the world of the early 2000s rural south stumbling across a networked and physically bulletproof laser printer with a full toner for $5 at the thrift store was a gamechanger shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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that is a hell of a score. those laserjet 4s and 5s are still running to this day e: getting pwned by leaving a postscript interpreter open to the internet is a funny thought though infernal machines fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Oct 18, 2022 |
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Oct 18, 2022 23:32
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go play outside Skyler posted:i went to college and i still think ipv6 is too complicated for the layman. 2) The entire reason for ipv6 is that there aren't enough ipv4 addresses for all the devices now, so having more bits of information is kind of just the fault of reality rather than ipv6. 3) Having the addresses be short enough to remember is not really something that anyone cares about now. Use dns or something.
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Beeftweeter posted:lol it's because they're based off of quake Can you imagine somebody trying to patch the eldritch magic written by Carmack.
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the only ip addresses you need to remember are 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, 192.168.x.x, and 127.0.0.1. nobody ever needs more than those. maybe 1.1.1.1 too if you want buttflare. i recently (last few months) set up our ddwrt router to properly get an ipv6 from our isp (cox). easy and owns.
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Zamujasa posted:the only ip addresses you need to remember are 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4, 192.168.x.x, and 127.0.0.1. nobody ever needs more than those. maybe 1.1.1.1 too if you want buttflare. do you have gigablast
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