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Yeah that was one thing the original (or at least the popular) phase of Bon Appetit was good at and which a lot of channels weren't doing, was having these sort of collaborative environments where people could bounce things off each other. Sohla's had a couple of really good ones like that, with Babish, Ham, and a couple things with Priya. America's Test Kitchen are really the only other ones that are doing that sort of video on a consistent basis.
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ninjahedgehog posted:Still lol at the fact that Reply All's much-hyped four-episode BA expose not only forced its creators to resign in disgrace two episodes in, it also ultimately resulted in the demise of Reply All itself I haven’t listened to reply all in forever, what the hell happened here?
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Vegetable posted:I don’t think there’s any value in reverse engineering non collabs to conclude whether someone was a douche or not. The BA alumni have generally not worked together since things kicked off and that’s easily explained by the fact that food videos aren’t usually collaborative in nature. Oh for sure. It's a junk metric, but just a fun casual observation. Colonel Whitey posted:I haven’t listened to reply all in forever, what the hell happened here? Long story short: a big part of the BA episodes was that there were people inside BA that were pushing for change and being sidelined, ghosted, gaslit, etc. .......and Reply All didn't check the skeletons in their closet before moving forward with the series. After episode 2 dropped, someone broke the news that Gimlet also had a union drive that had been poo-poo'd by management, and had a bunch of internal issues that abstractly mirrored those that they were reporting on BA about. They decided to drop everything and start looking internally... and then a couple people who were editing the last couple episodes left the company, making it impossible to finish. Reply All came back a bit later, with a new host, but like BA have to imagine the numbers didn't return. Also Gimlet by most accounts seemed like a fuckboi podcast company that was obsessed with being bought out by a big dog, so once Spotify had them it doesn't seem like there was much of a drive for creative shows. Also gently caress em' for killing Mystery Show and breaking Starlee Kine's heart.
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Nov 7, 2022 07:11
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CatstropheWaitress posted:The iffy quality to me comes from her mentions of ski trips and just an air of someone who came from money. The dirty secret of industries that rely on low- and un-paid apprenticeships/internships is that they self-select for people who have money. Food, fashion, film, and music are bad about this, and media focusing on those things is worse. Of course this is also a factor in YouTube too, because it takes a LOT of time to gain success and generally you need someone supporting you to succeed in that.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Oh for sure. It's a junk metric, but just a fun casual observation. Thanks for the rundown, that’s pretty sad to hear. I listened to Startup back when Gimlet first got started, in retrospect it was a pretty weird and self indulgent idea from the get go. I did enjoy Reply All and Mystery Show though.
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Tricky Ed posted:The dirty secret of industries that rely on low- and un-paid apprenticeships/internships is that they self-select for people who have money. Food, fashion, film, and music are bad about this They can do this of course because there are way more people who want to get into these industries than there are positions available. Food, fashion, film, and music are all more interesting than e.g. computer programming. Of course rich/connected people will have a leg up when applying for highly competitive positions. I remember Mike Judge, the creator of Beavis and Butthead who cold called MTV to get his cartoon on the network, in an interview strongly hinting at this when he said something like: 'people tend to gloss over how they got into show business'. He might have a little chip on his shoulder about this.
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Interning at high end kitchens isn't a glamorous job and I doubt Molly started working in kitchens to become rich and famous. Her recipes are solid. If anything I think Priya is the one that should stick to being a journalist because none of her food was anything special. Her pieces for the New York Times are really good. I don't get the appeal of Brad's food either.
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Mu Zeta posted:I don't get the appeal of Brad's food either. Botulism, mostly.
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dino. posted:It’s those aprons they had them wearing at BA. All of them made the women look like they’re in some weird cult where you have to wear flour sack dresses, but your mom can’t sew, so you just wear the literal flour sack. I get that they may be functional, but dear gods are they ugly. it is a very weird thing to talk about the degree to which aprons are or are not making female cooks/chefs attractive
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I don’t think Dino is commenting on their attractiveness. He’s just saying what they’re wearing is ugly.
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:I don’t think Dino is commenting on their attractiveness. He’s just saying what they’re wearing is ugly. fair enough
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mystes posted:Molly is doing fine cooking videos she just seems like a psychopath i gotta add that people coming up with stupid cutsey shortened names for crap is like nails on a chalkboard to me. like calling potatoes 'puh-tayts' or whatever.
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Borsche69 posted:i gotta add that people coming up with stupid cutsey shortened names for crap is like nails on a chalkboard to me. like calling potatoes 'puh-tayts' or whatever. so you're not a fan of Molly's custom Nikes that say CAE SAL on them?
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Brecky and Sammie are the recent(ish) terms that cause me a truly inexplicable amount of rage.
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The rule is it’s okay if the original word has four or more syllables. Cauliflower is in dire need of an abbreviation.
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more falafel please posted:so you're not a fan of Molly's custom Nikes that say CAE SAL on them? Is that Welsh or something?
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dino. posted:Is that Welsh or something? *whispers* caeser salad
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(Whispering) Caelic salt
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CatstropheWaitress posted:*whispers* caeser salad My life is worse for knowing this. What the hell kind of affected poo poo is this. It makes me irrationally annoyed. Stop trying to make fetch happen. 
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more falafel please posted:so you're not a fan of Molly's custom Nikes that say CAE SAL on them? CatstropheWaitress posted:*whispers* caeser salad this isn't real. this sucks. i hate the way this sucks.
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dino. posted:My life is worse for knowing this. What the hell kind of affected poo poo is this. It makes me irrationally annoyed. Stop trying to make fetch happen. It made me so mad years ago when I first heard it. That knowledge should come with a warning.
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If you can’t handle me at my cae sal, then you don’t deserve me at my EVOO
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Democratic Pirate posted:If you can’t handle me at my cae sal, then you don’t deserve me at my
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If a sandwich can't fit easily in a mouth and can't be eaten without all the stuff falling out then gently caress that entire thing. What's even the point? Don't make it a sandwich.
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Yeah if your sandwich needs a toothpick to be held together it's not a real sandwich Just eat it open-faced
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 Proud of you Lorezno. Shine by your own north star you bright beautiful bastard you.
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Molly's life is a contrast in dogs. On the one hand she owns a weiner dog names Tuna who is adorable, and on the other hand some other dog bit her in the fuckin face within the past year Also my wife loves Molly so I bought her the cookbook she came out with and the recipes are genuinely good
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Nobody’s doubting homegirl’s cooking ability. She can knock up fresh pasta with seemingly little effort. She knows what she’s doing. It’s the affected twee poo poo that is nails on a chalkboard. Also, they need to stop calling it 4 levels. The food scientist isn’t making one. Also, lorenzo seems like a guy I’d like to have a beer with, but most of the stuff he churns out is way too over the top to be good.
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We just skip the food scientist part now since it doesn't really add anything to the video. Lorenzo grates on my nerves a little bit now, he used to be just amiable and charming but I think he just forces it a bit too much now and his laughing at everything is too much. Emily should have learned how to cook by now, why is she still a level 1? Grow up, girl. I love Frank but Saul is the top dog chef IMO.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:
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The whole "levels" gimmick is extremely dumb but it's enjoyable watching the people cook and they should honestly just get rid of the food scientist and have them all be in the same room talking to each other Similarly the gimmick of the ingredient swapping videos is the worst part of those videos
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I’d make Lorenzo’s 9 out of 10 times but gently caress having to deal with conveyor belt rollers on the top of my breakfast sandwich. Could you not split the sausages lengthwise to make life easier?
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Also, I get that it’s for click bait that the fancy version is super expensive, but how you gonna pretend like that entire bottle of truffle oil, or the full rear end tin of saffron is going into one dish? Come on, people.
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Grem posted:Make that kitchen gadget guy do the left handed oil test again. God I hate that dude and his Shtick
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