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I want to hear a lot more from Meen and MSRR today. Meen I want to hear from with regards to being a Random Visitor/Messenger (I did not get a message if there was one delivered) and both claimed they don't do reads Day 1. I want their Day 2 reads. Oh and as I'm writing this there's MSSR hi buddy
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Monathin posted:Oh and as I'm writing this there's MSSR hi buddy waddup bud
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Nov 10, 2022 22:06
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My Second Re-Reg posted:waddup bud nm nm just doing my due diligence
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Nov 10, 2022 22:07
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Monathin posted:nm nm just doing my due diligence werd - we've got two flips so that's enough to start building suspicions off of, but I'm not sure I'll have enough to put together a full-length Case Post until later. I'm still looking Iggy's way atm - who's at the top of your hit list?
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Nov 10, 2022 22:09
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HCT, you hammered Illusionis because you were not feeling Meen. Do you believe the vote D1 was split between two townies?
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Nov 10, 2022 22:13
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Personally I'd like to hear from Windward, mainly what was up with her constant push on Hal, but not really pushing, just gonna keep mentioning him:WindwardAway posted:Probably keeping my vote on Meen WindwardAway posted:It's more that I think Hal is a fallback if nothing else tbh WindwardAway posted:I said Hal is a null so far and that I think Meen is scummier. I'm not forcing the Hal case. WindwardAway posted:Because I've heard people say the same thing about Hal in previous games Getting a certain "Hal delenda est" vibe here.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:13
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Monathin posted:nm nm just doing my due diligence who scum
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Nov 10, 2022 22:13
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My Second Re-Reg posted:You two wanna tell me why me voting for the person I said I'd vote for - and not the person who turned out to be town - is weird? Should be pretty obvious. When one person is at -1 and instead you opt to put someone else at -1 that looks bad in the moment no matter what. Yes, it was consistent with what you said before, but if Illu was actually scum or if HCT opted to vote Meen instead (and he flipped town) then your vote immediately looks much, much worse. Speaking of, HCT when you're here, why did you hammer Illu instead of Meen? You said you didn't think Meen is scum then, sure, but you also repeatedly called Illu town beforehand as well, so what changed there?
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Nov 10, 2022 22:14
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Cloacamazing! posted:Personally I'd like to hear from Windward, mainly what was up with her constant push on Hal, but not really pushing, just gonna keep mentioning him: Something I learned observing Masons Mafia is to never call Wind town early. There's now enough stuff to do the opposite, though! ##vote Wind
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Nov 10, 2022 22:15
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##vote Meen That end of day wagon movement sure was something And I suspect scum was on the chopping block
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Nov 10, 2022 22:15
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My Second Re-Reg posted:werd - we've got two flips so that's enough to start building suspicions off of, but I'm not sure I'll have enough to put together a full-length Case Post until later. hard to say atm - want to go back and look how the three-way tie started and then resolved to a 2-way tie. everyone had their hands on the ball so that's helpful for vote analysis. wologar posted:who scum wanna look at the people voting lotus and who jumped off from that - bif was super town and was also the one bringing up "if illusionis flips town lotus is the first one to look at", would not be surprised if bif was killed to preemptively silence scumhunting on lotus today
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Nov 10, 2022 22:16
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Lotus and Monathin are also on my scum list
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Nov 10, 2022 22:16
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Lotus Aura posted:Should be pretty obvious. When one person is at -1 and instead you opt to put someone else at -1 that looks bad in the moment no matter what. Yes, it was consistent with what you said before, but if Illu was actually scum or if HCT opted to vote Meen instead (and he flipped town) then your vote immediately looks much, much worse. That's because HCT and Meen are scumbuds. "But that would be way too obvious", I hear you say. Well, yes.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:17
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But I want to resolve the flip we should've gotten yesterday instead of swerving off
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Nov 10, 2022 22:17
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Man, that was kind of a cool power Bif had. I guess Maerlyn wasn't content with making up roles for 13 songs, she wanted more work. As for other night action stuff, I did not receive any kind of message last night, for what that's worth. This is really making me doubt Iggy, though, message or no, because yeah turns out last-hour swerves always end up with some random townie getting killed instead of scum. If Iggy is really scum then there's got to be more scum on that Illusionis wagon; Bif is dead, so Monathin, binus, Iggy, Lotus, Cloaca. Need to read some stuff. wologar posted:HCT, you hammered Illusionis because you were not feeling Meen. I'm torn. I'm back in the territory where if Iggy is scum, then this was a swerve and as mentioned there's probably scum on that wagon. But if he's town, then that's pointing more towards Lotus being scum and the second swerve was to get away from Lotus getting lunched. The question I need to answer for myself now is to what extent Illusionis flipping town makes me feel worse about Iggy. I think I need to read some of the EOD votes and who voted what when because no matter what there was some kind of fuckery going on there.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:17
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Lotus Aura posted:Speaking of, HCT when you're here, why did you hammer Illu instead of Meen? You said you didn't think Meen is scum then, sure, but you also repeatedly called Illu town beforehand as well, so what changed there? What changed was we were 10 minutes to deadline and a no lunch always sucks, so what was I supposed to do? There were no other wagons to choose from so I went with Illusionis because I thought Meen was more town than Illusionis.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:18
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WindwardAway posted:But I want to resolve the flip we should've gotten yesterday instead of swerving off I still want to vote Meen, but isn't this the same thinking that made town lose in Masons Mafia? We don't talk about hot tubs here.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:19
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Lotus Aura posted:Should be pretty obvious. When one person is at -1 and instead you opt to put someone else at -1 that looks bad in the moment no matter what. Yes, it was consistent with what you said before, but if Illu was actually scum or if HCT opted to vote Meen instead (and he flipped town) then your vote immediately looks much, much worse. .... sorry, still doesn't make any sense to me. Like, legitimately not trying to be a dick here, I just don't understand how "being consistent in their convictions" makes someone more sus. I, personally, would look at someone saying "I'd rather vote for XXXX" several times suddenly swapping their vote to YYYY when there's a decent chance XXXX could be voted off as way more suspicious. Not that anyone did anything like that when it came to voting Illusionis over Iggy. Nope, not at all.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:19
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Cloacamazing! posted:Personally I'd like to hear from Windward, mainly what was up with her constant push on Hal, but not really pushing, just gonna keep mentioning him: don't like this post at all, if you wanna build a case for windward sure but continuing to harp on the hal posts feels really weird and smokescreen-y when we have fresh content vis a vis illusionis flip/bif flip/end of day votes
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Nov 10, 2022 22:20
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Cloacamazing! posted:Personally I'd like to hear from Windward, mainly what was up with her constant push on Hal, but not really pushing, just gonna keep mentioning him: Well, I saw a recent scum game of his and he was pretty tonally consistent with his town game but was lower on solving contribution. And Meen was the one who pitched the lurking scum Hal idea, and I scumread him for most of yesterday, so logically, I wouldn't vote somewhere I think scum is pushing.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:20
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wologar posted:Something I learned observing Masons Mafia is to never call Wind town early. There's now enough stuff to do the opposite, though! Bro i was town in Masons Mafia
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Nov 10, 2022 22:21
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wologar posted:That's because HCT and Meen are scumbuds. Oh yeah, HCT is also on my scum list for the hammer.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:22
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Monathin posted:wanna look at the people voting lotus and who jumped off from that - bif was super town and was also the one bringing up "if illusionis flips town lotus is the first one to look at", would not be surprised if bif was killed to preemptively silence scumhunting on lotus today I'm not sure I understand this. Are you saying that Lotus is suspicious and that their voters D1 are also suspicious?
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Nov 10, 2022 22:22
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wologar posted:I still want to vote Meen, but isn't this the same thinking that made town lose in Masons Mafia? The difference is that we didn't resolve RWC early in that game, and she got left until LyLo which was bad. We're only on day 2 here. I don't want Meen hanging around till LyLo.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:23
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WindwardAway posted:Bro i was town in Masons Mafia I was referring to salad calling you town D1 and you relentlessly pursuing his D1 lunch for it. 
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Nov 10, 2022 22:24
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Monathin posted:hard to say atm - want to go back and look how the three-way tie started and then resolved to a 2-way tie. everyone had their hands on the ball so that's helpful for vote analysis. Illu and I were tied second at 3 each, with Meen as slight leader at 4, until I voted for Illusionis putting him tied with Meen. After that, Bif switched off me and onto Illusionis, despite thinking I was more suspicious than he was, which might be what brought it down to those two instead? Cloacamazing!'s the only one who swapped off me after that though, so hard to say for sure.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:24
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wologar posted:I was referring to salad calling you town D1 and you relentlessly pursuing his D1 lunch for it. Oh lmao
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Nov 10, 2022 22:27
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Lotus Aura posted:Illu and I were tied second at 3 each, with Meen as slight leader at 4, until I voted for Illusionis putting him tied with Meen. After that, Bif switched off me and onto Illusionis, despite thinking I was more suspicious than he was, which might be what brought it down to those two instead? Cloacamazing!'s the only one who swapped off me after that though, so hard to say for sure. I swapped off you, but onto Meen.
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wologar posted:I'm not sure I understand this. Are you saying that Lotus is suspicious and that their voters D1 are also suspicious? Yeah, lemme explain it a little clearer: - Lotus got enough traction to be part of the 3-way tie, and then built a case for illusionis which I agreed with since I already thought Illusionis was scum at the time. Mea culpa. - Bif looked at the post and thought it was overexplaining and suggested that if Illusionis is town, Lotus feels scummy as a result. - Everyone voted EoD, which means there were scum on the vote, and Illusionis was town, which means that scum would jump to that vote - Bif is dead and flipped town and would have likely pushed Lotus today, but can't, due to being dead. - Scum, imo, would likely have voted Lotus ('light bus') and then switched off at first opportunity. It's not 100% this happened but I want to analyze votes to find correlations there if they exist. We know Bif was on Lotus, as well.
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Nov 10, 2022 22:28
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##vote mona
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wologar posted:I swapped off you, but onto Meen. Yeah, but that just changed the 4/3/3 from me in front to Meen in front unless I'm misreading votefinder's EoD post. Still could've gone any way at that point, I think
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b-minus1 posted:##vote mona lmao c'mon b
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Monathin posted:Yeah, lemme explain it a little clearer: Ok, makes sense. Except point 4; Bif would have pushed for Opop, across games.
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Everyone has posted D2 except Hal, GDE and the man himself. Can anyone confirm that Meen visited you? HCT he didn't receive any message. I didn't, either.
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Monathin posted:- Scum, imo, would likely have voted Lotus ('light bus') and then switched off at first opportunity. It's not 100% this happened but I want to analyze votes to find correlations there if they exist. We know Bif was on Lotus, as well. So I've been thinking along these same lines too. The people who had ever voted Lotus were binus, wologar, Bif and Cloaca; binus's vote was very early though, early enough to be a joke or pressure or probing vote or whatever you want to call what binus does. But I'm also going back to thinking about this: b-minus1 posted:I’ve had my eye on lotus. I’ve got lotus and rereg at the top of my scum list But then he never does, even when the wagon on Lotus is building up, and then he votes Illusionis instead? I'm not sure I buy this "oh dear did I never unvote? whoops" thing today. I mean I thought binus was town, it's true, but that excuse is kinda flimsy when he had ample opportunity to break the tie and vote Iggy if that's who he preferred. I need to read more of wologar and Cloaca's posts I think, I'm a little wary about wologar seemingly want to suggest me and Iggy are scumbuds today (without Iggy even flipping yet, we don't know that he's scum and I'm still 50-50 that he isn't). Feels like trying to see if anyone is willing to go along with that case. Need to read Cloaca more. I'm not sure the obsession with Windward's obsession with Hal is the weirdest thing to want to ask about, honestly.
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Me neither.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Me neither. That was about the Iggy visit
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Cloacamazing! posted:That was about the Iggy visit It probably applies to HCT's closing statement. Post economy!
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wologar posted:Ok, makes sense. Except point 4; Bif would have pushed for Opop, across games. lmao ok fair and true
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I probably would have voted lotus. Also wologar and cloacamazing are my top town reads atm fwiw
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