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Seattle actually did have a chance to build a large metro network decades ago but ultimately didn't have enough people vote in favor for it. The light rail is good for what it is, but pales in comparison to the more robust metro network it could have had.
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Mustang posted:Seattle actually did have a chance to build a large metro network decades ago but ultimately didn't have enough people vote in favor for it. The light rail is good for what it is, but pales in comparison to the more robust metro network it could have had. Is this not robust? https://kingcounty.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=3e239c9048604de8a1c73b72679bc82e
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 01:50 |
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Compare Seattle's much more recent light rail to the slightly smaller Portland which has had it's light rail network since the 80's. Seattle has 2 lines (counting Tacoma), 25 stations and 26 miles of light rail. Portland has 5 lines, 94 stations, and 59 miles of light rail. Seattle had the opportunity to take advantage of federal funding around the same time period but not enough people voted in favor of it. edit: and for the record, I regularly use Seattle's light rail, I just wish it had been built earlier because there's still areas of the city (east/west routes) that won't have light rail service until the 2030's. Mustang has a new favorite as of 08:50 on Nov 28, 2022 |
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Hannover is comparable in population: Germany's most boring city. Pretty nice place to live, though.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 09:29 |
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Maybe if they made Seattle more liveable, more people would be living there.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 14:21 |
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https://twitter.com/PostGraphics/status/1597239952890220545 To my untrained eye, this seems like a terrible way of displaying the data.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 16:13 |
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Zil posted:https://twitter.com/PostGraphics/status/1597239952890220545 I don’t know why time is on y instead of x but otherwise it looks okay
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 16:39 |
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Tree Goat posted:I don’t know why time is on y instead of x but otherwise it looks okay Yeah, just flip the axes and it would be much easier to read
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 16:43 |
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If I have to tilt my head 90 degrees to the right to understand what the gently caress is going on, it's a bad graph
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 16:43 |
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the y axis doesn‘t start at 0
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:13 |
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Neco posted:the y axis doesn‘t start at 0 i mean time is time and follower loss is a) an indexed value and b) has to include negative and positive values, so a non-zero start for both is de rigueur
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:33 |
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I'm assuming the orientation is to intentionally show a significant rightward skew
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:38 |
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It's odd but is fine to me, I had no trouble understanding it. As these are only selected politicians I'd like to see some lines representing some average values. Like a line for D senators and another for R, to be sure the implied trend is actually present.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:42 |
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Weird, London has ten times the population AND ten times the public transport infrastructure. hmmmm
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:45 |
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I don't think it's too bad, it shows the divergences left and right that they wanted to show. It would feel more natural to me to flip the time axis vertically, but I don't think it's a terrible offender for casual graphs in here.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:46 |
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Captain Hygiene posted:I don't think it's too bad, it shows the divergences left and right that they wanted to show. It would feel more natural to me to flip the time axis vertically, but I don't think it's a terrible offender for casual graphs in here. Look, I did preface it by saying "to my untrained eye" I don't know it just looks odd at first glance.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 17:58 |
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Time should start at 0 on all graphs, as in the beginning of the universe, so that every time you look at a graph to learn something it's like you asked god a question and he said "gently caress off, speck."
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 18:53 |
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Ragnar34 posted:Time should start at 0 on all graphs, as in the beginning of the universe, so that every time you look at a graph to learn something it's like you asked god a question and he said "gently caress off, speck." If the time axis starts at the beginning of the universe, then it needs to end at the heat-death of the universe.
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 19:21 |
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It should start at Jesus's birth and end at his return, like any proper graph
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 19:22 |
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Kantesu posted:The rapture happened before it was invented? That's embarrassing But the rapture happened hundreds of years ago and we're just the forgotten dregs, how are we supposed to show our data when all of current time is literally off the charts? Sentient Data has a new favorite as of 21:20 on Nov 28, 2022 |
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look at all these loving rubes who believe in linear time. the empire never ended, idiots
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 20:11 |
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Sentient Data posted:But the rapture happened hundreds of years ago and we're just the forgotten dregs, how are we supposed to show our data when all of current time is literally off the charts? The rapture happened before it was invented? That's embarrassing
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Ragnar34 posted:Time should start at 0 on all graphs, as in the beginning of the universe, so that every time you look at a graph to learn something it's like you asked god a question and he said "gently caress off, speck." Now we‘re talking, gently caress all this skewing the data bullshit
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 22:55 |
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Tree Goat posted:look at all these loving rubes who believe in linear time. the empire never ended, idiots blessed
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# ? Nov 28, 2022 23:48 |
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Kantesu posted:The rapture happened before it was invented? That's embarrassing Noone was invited anyway E: Nooner. No one else tho
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 00:12 |
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Tree Goat posted:the empire never ended, idiots Are you in the UK government by any chance?
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 00:12 |
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Outrail posted:Weird, London has ten times the population AND ten times the public transport infrastructure. hmmmm London has 5 million riders per day. Seattle area light rail had around 50 million riders per year. Lot less than a tenth of the public transport infrastructure than London. Tons and tons of cars in greater Seattle
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 02:36 |
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London does not have ten times the population of Seattle. A quick google tells me the Seattle metropolitan area has 4.0 million, and London metropolitan area has 9.5 million.
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DontMockMySmock posted:London does not have ten times the population of Seattle. A quick google tells me the Seattle metropolitan area has 4.0 million, and London metropolitan area has 9.5 million. A quick search tells me London metro is more like 14 million. London itself is about 9.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 05:05 |
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The greater London metro area (the area serviced by the rail system) has a population of ~9 million. The equivalent area in Seattle is about 4 million including the fact that Seattle much longer than it is wide due to butting up against the cascades.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 05:51 |
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I think a more useful metric is density of population: London has almost twice as much peeps in a square km as Seattle. Geography is another thing, Seattle is built on an isthmus. Making tunnels across a shallow river is not quite as expensive as under a lake that goes 33 metres at the deepest. Also thanks to pollution the water in Thames has a consistency more similar to syrup, so it will automatically patch up any cracks. Finally London metro was started in 1860. There were already around 3 million people in inner London then. At the time, Seattle had 188 people. Not 188 thousand. 188. You don't build a network like that overnight and most of the lines were opened before WW1 and only expanded from there.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 09:04 |
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https://twitter.com/SeriFeliciano/status/1597355324008108034
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Nenonen posted:I think a more useful metric is density of population: London has almost twice as much peeps in a square km as Seattle. You would think if it's built in a big line that would be an ideal application for rail though, they love going in straight lines.
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# ? Nov 29, 2022 10:34 |
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That whole thing is pure gold. https://www.hindawi.com/journals/amse/2022/3802603/ posted:This system of equations is called a normal system of equations and can be solved by solving.
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piL posted:That whole thing is pure gold. Another winning bit of research from the scientist behind ohm@budweiser.com?
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OwlFancier posted:You would think if it's built in a big line that would be an ideal application for rail though, they love going in straight lines. The problem is that the moment you walk away from the straight line you're walking up or down a mountain. The terrain here makes walking East/West a hell of a slog.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 02:50 |
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"I made it up" https://twitter.com/DavidHajage/status/1597473122273615872 oh my god how is this a real paper https://twitter.com/BlaneDavidLewis/status/1597472030487564293 https://twitter.com/McknightLaura/status/1597634268691210240 https://twitter.com/barrett_fd/status/1597561120398925825
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 06:34 |
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Why can't I get entertainingly terrible articles to review rather than the normal boring kind
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 06:39 |
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That honestly seems like more effort than punching some spurious data into some plotting software.
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# ? Nov 30, 2022 09:12 |
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it's like the guy who faked basically his entire academic career. he would just make plots that gave exciting results https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfDoml-Db64
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