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Oxyclean posted:I guess it just feels a bit funny when there is also paranormal stuff that is explicitly not stands, but that's also actually pretty cool. All sorts of wild and weird mystical and magical stuff happening. The big question is "is that actually true?" And I think the answer might be "no". Stands are an expression of human potential, but Stand is literally written as "ghostly ripple", and is in a sense the "same thing" as Hamon. The Stone Mask unlocks the biological potential of humans (and Pillar Men)... is Vampirism also a stand? Heavy Weather works the same way as the stone mask, inducing biological change through mental manipulation. And we know that objects and even locations, like the Anubis sword and Superfly tower, can be or have stands. So is the alley in Morioh a stand? Is the millionaire village in Thus Spoke? It's hard to definitively say "no".
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Augus posted:maybe the guy who got Cheap Trick was just generally a nervous and paranoid person before he got hit by the arrow Technically so was Diavolo and he got 2 stands that made him invincible. That's one hell of a coin flip. Though that guy's also an example of an out-of-control Stand since iirc he didn't even know it was there beyond a vague feeling that he'd die if someone saw his back. I guess he was in a weird middle zone where he had enough willpower to kind of manifest a Stand but not enough to control it.
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DoctorWhat posted:The big question is "is that actually true?" And I think the answer might be "no". Stands are an expression of human potential, but Stand is literally written as "ghostly ripple", and is in a sense the "same thing" as Hamon. The Stone Mask unlocks the biological potential of humans (and Pillar Men)... is Vampirism also a stand? Heavy Weather works the same way as the stone mask, inducing biological change through mental manipulation. It's less fun if vampires and ghosts and aliens are stands, therefore they aren't.
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You tell me you have t seen a building with awesome and foreboding killing intent and I'll call you a liar.
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DoctorWhat posted:I haven't gotten to it yet but the live-action Rohan Kishibe series (written by Yasuko Kobayashi who also wrote all the anime scripts and several examples of top-shelf tokusatsu) adapts Cheap Trick at some point. Having watched that episode, here's what I think (don't read it you haven't watched it yet): The live-action adaptation doesn't reference stands at all--Heaven's Door is just a power that Rohan and the reason is never explained. The show wisely decided to portray Cheap Trick as a type of general curse à la The Ring or The Grudge, but it stumbles because the alley that drags you to hell is introduced in the very same episode, so the story is a bit bloated and the climax feels like a bit of an rear end pull.
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FilthyImp posted:You tell me you have t seen a building with awesome and foreboding killing intent and I'll call you a liar. 
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JOHN CENA posted:giorno could have stopped Pucci Maybe, maybe. But you know who could have 100% stopped him dead in his tracks? Tamami. He just needs to hear the story about Weather and Perla and it's over for Poochy Son of Thunderbeast fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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War and Pieces posted:Me after getting the policed called on me: Officer Domon Kasshu: "ah, say no more"
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Someone leaked character art of the part 7 protagonist, and folks, the Netflix molecules aren't doing it any favors
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Someone leaked character art of the part 7 protagonist, and folks, the Netflix molecules aren't doing it any favors please ban this filth
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https://twitter.com/BREADSWORD/status/1606827089013145600 e: Magnum? I believe you mean... 「Blue Steel Requiem」 Son of Thunderbeast fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Dec 27, 2022 |
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FilthyImp posted:You tell me you have t seen a building with awesome and foreboding killing intent and I'll call you a liar. 
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Stone Ocean is such a trip. We've come such a long way from Stardust Crusaders. Joylne's fourth or fifth fight, depending on if you count Johngalli A. and Whitesnake as one or two fights, has- Poster Supersonic Shine is just now watching so I have spoiler tagged some events of episodes 10 and 11 to not spoil it for them if they happen to be reading the thread regularly- zero gravity cloud suits and her blood being sucked away via vaccum. Remember Jotaro's fifth fight? It was hungry yellow shapeshifting slime. Kakyoin took over for Tower of Gray so I'm not counting that.
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remember that time Joseph nearly died from jumping over a fence, stardust crusaders rules
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I remember that time a mirror reflection stand loving jumped into a kid’s loving eye. MVP Also remember that time Jotaro bluffed so hard he gave his opponent a panic attack and won?
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Hey remember that time Narancia loved life a lot and then died by landing on a fence
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Bisse posted:Also remember that time Jotaro bluffed so hard he gave his opponent a panic attack and won? https://streamable.com/4yk5dl
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Bisse posted:Hey remember that time Narancia loved life a lot and then died by landing on a fence He was just two days from retirement too 
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Bisse posted:Also remember that time Jotaro bluffed so hard he gave his opponent a panic attack and won? “gently caress it this guy's too good at cheating, i'm not even going to bother figuring him out and just gonna bluff him to death” remains the single most inspired solution to any JoJo conflict
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Bisse posted:Hey remember that time Narancia loved life a lot and then died by landing on a fence a modern Robespierre
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:“gently caress it this guy's too good at cheating, i'm not even going to bother figuring him out and just gonna bluff him to death” remains the single most inspired solution to any JoJo conflict it's funny because there's basically some real life poker that feels not unlike that episode. Just total shenanigan of someone winning without even looking at their cards for multiple hands.
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I can't believe how much Araki made me value zippers as a power. Bruno is so cool.
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His zipper power sounds lame but the way he uses it immediately makes it cool. Then you see him as a kid using a knife to unzip out of a mattress and then unzip a couple throats, and it's suddenly perfect This happens a few times with the stands in part 5, my other favorite example is abbacchio
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Bruno is absolutely like, the quintessential Jojo Stand It has a very basic, well-defined power set-- "create zippers on things" And Araki explores and uses that to its fullest extent. He never really expands on what the primary power is, just uses it in increasingly creative and interesting ways. Contrast to something like Gold Experience, where it's "oh yeah he reflects damage" "oh yeah he's a healer now" "turns cars into frogs" Or even Star Finger Jolyne is fairly consistent in using her powerset, though it never hits the highs that Sticky Fingers does Part 7 and Part 8 feel kinda ill-defined Sticky Fingers is really just S+ tier stand
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Sticky Fingers also has an excellent design
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Of course it's a good stand, the main character of that part uses it
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Sockser posted:Bruno is absolutely like, the quintessential Jojo Stand It does play a little loose with depth, i.e how "far" he can go into an unzipped thing, also sometimes the things he unzips can just be moved through and sometimes they create portals to the zipper dimension. That said it's easily one of the coolest and most creatively-used stands in the series, and it never really strays from it's basic concept unlike GE's "invents a new power almost every fight" thing. That weird zipper guillotine he tried against Secco was rad as hell even if it completely backfired And yeah "simple power with a ton of applications" are always the best protagonist stands, see also Crazy Diamond Yinlock fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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bruno dismembering pesci with zippers is still the 2nd coolest moment in the Part to me, only second to the seven page muda muda
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JOHN CENA posted:janken kid could have stopped pucci lmao
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Pucci: GRAVITY Janken kid: jumps 500km into the air
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Yinlock posted:And yeah "simple power with a ton of applications" are always the best protagonist stands, see also Crazy Diamond Crazy Diamond can play a little loose as well, like "fixing" the spaghetti into whole tomatoes and uncooked pasta. That said, I do feel it's largely consistent.
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I binged all of Stone Ocean the past couple of days. My enjoyment of the last third was held down by really missing Foo Fighters.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:Crazy Diamond can play a little loose as well, like "fixing" the spaghetti into whole tomatoes and uncooked pasta. That said, I do feel it's largely consistent. I feel Jolyne’s power is the most consistent. It does exactly what it says on the tin, literally nothing more, and has some loving wild applications, like the toe nail ripping and ear drum piercing, forming a mobeius strip to counter C-Moon’s hits, etc. But the best part is how amazingly weak it is, ranking probably in the bottom 10% of stand powers in terms of just overall strength but also ability in general, but Jolyne still manages to defeat the craziest odds and save the world with it. (Although she did not personally deliver the final blow, she did set it up) Bisse fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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If you squint hard enough there’s maybe some inconsistency of how much of herself Jolyne can safely unravel but that could probably be hand-waved as her gaining more control over the ability
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Augus posted:If you squint hard enough there’s maybe some inconsistency of how much of herself Jolyne can safely unravel but that could probably be hand-waved as her gaining more control over the ability yeah thats how I've always read it, and its something I always thought stone ocean does really well tbh. she doesn't really have a 'training arc' but the ways and the extent to which she can use her stand grows in a really natural way
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I’m almost done watching Stone Ocean (on episode 29) and man is it cool as poo poo how Jolyne works out of Under World’s Stand. I like how Versus inherited Dio’s pigheaded stubbornness to throw another wrench in Pucci’s plans. It’s interesting how Pucci basically has Jojo protagonist luck in the latter third here. The theme of fate being developed here is interesting, wonder what the conclusion to be drawn here is
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Carlosologist posted:It’s interesting how Pucci basically has Jojo protagonist luck in the latter third here. The theme of fate being developed here is interesting, wonder what the conclusion to be drawn here is
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Does he use the same word for [GRAVITY] as Char?
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