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yeah like 90 AD
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using an atm from a different bank so your balance wasn't synced yet and you could take out more than you had was cool
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thread has been a fun read probably not a thing overseas but in australia one of the bigger isps TPG once did free dial up internet between the hours of like midnight to 6 or 7 am (i think it was called night owl), dunno what the plan for making money on it was? i would watch the saturday movie on tv and stay up so i could queue up a download on the free internet because the regular isp we used (a local one for our town of like 5000 people) only gave us like 30 hours a month i remember downloading a bunch of neo geo roms over a weekend by setting my alarm for the expected finish time of each one so i could get up and start another. it was a lot of effort to play a poorly emulated version of samurai shodown on a lovely p200
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Compulsive_Liar posted:dunno what the plan for making money on it was? "It costs us basically nothing because the circuits are all idle overnight anyway, the goodwill and positive advertising is probably worth it"
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Compulsive_Liar posted:thread has been a fun read oh yeah back when we had metered dialup, i would constantly have a download running so as not to waste money on just chatting or browsing. 20 minutes per mp3  Jabor posted:"It costs us basically nothing because the circuits are all idle overnight anyway, the goodwill and positive advertising is probably worth it" also probably some bonus money from people forgetting to log off or logging on too early
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Carthag Tuek posted:oh yeah back when we had metered dialup, i would constantly have a download running so as not to waste money on just chatting or browsing. 20 minutes per mp3 absolutely, time spent not downloading was money down the drain. i remember getright being an absolute game changer in my late 90s? quest for snes roms and metallica mp3s i remember our high school having a singular internet connected pc in 1998 and writing down things to search the next day in recess. i think we used metacrawler (?) because it pulled results from a bunch of search engines
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my friend used to get 24 hours/month ISP trials and then use them up in one 24hr sitting (23hrs of porn, and then wind down by reading lovely newsgroups about hacker stuff because he thought he was 1337). i also remember getting a metered account and my sister wanting to send an email and her sitting there for 45 minutes pecking out four lines with one finger and using up my valuable minutes.  Compulsive_Liar posted:probably not a thing overseas but in australia one of the bigger isps TPG once did free dial up internet between the hours of like midnight to 6 or 7 am (i think it was called night owl), dunno what the plan for making money on it was? i would watch the saturday movie on tv and stay up so i could queue up a download on the free internet because the regular isp we used (a local one for our town of like 5000 people) only gave us like 30 hours a month i got scammed by an isp called IC24 who put out all these flyers and ads touting their "100% FREE AND UNMETERED" internet access. then it installed a standard dial-up connection to a paid number and the only way to actually get the free access was to manually change the phone number to one buried in the small print - which was of course engaged 24/7 Sweevo fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Feb 19, 2023 |
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I’m pretty sure I’ve told this story before but I used to use some small local isp for dial up in the mid 90’s that along with dial up would also give you shell access. either they didn’t know what they were doing or assumed no one would really use it, because it was very poorly secured. you could drop out of the main shell menu and into a command line. from there you could use the standard passwd command to change your password, and the password of other users, it turns out. I’m guessing instead of setting it up properly they just granted everyone admin access to get around some problem because ~90’s Internet Security~ every day after school I would log in and change my friends password so he’d have to call support to fix it. they did eventually fix the security but it worked for quite a while.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:I’m pretty sure I’ve told this story before but I used to use some small local isp for dial up in the mid 90’s that along with dial up would also give you shell access. yeah, mine wasn't that blatant but i ran crackerjack on the unshadowed /etc/passwd on our similar system and learned that since passwords were such a foreign idea to normies they defaulted to telling them "just use the last four of your phone number" on a fuckin 386dx33 or something i ended up getting like 30 passwords in just one night because those were so easy to crack
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When I was a computer touching instructor for the military we used questionmark for our testing software and it was such a pile of garbage. My favorite thing to do was pull up the user list and look at everyone’s passwords. That’s right, you could just click a button and reveal a user’s password right there. I would use it as a teaching tool by loving with students who reused passwords from their domain account and drop files on their desktops after hours. Some people confessed their love for classmates in their passwords, and one dude had the weedlordbonerhitler password and that was probably my coolest student. We listened to orange goblin in that class and we were the only two into it but I’m the instructor so gently caress off whiney kids
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maybe its a philosophical question. what is an ethernet cable
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Beeftweeter posted:maybe its a philosophical question. what is an ethernet cable
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in the mid 90's i worked for a hospital system that had a medical records app written in server-side javascript (this was p progressive at the time all things considered) - but it basically committed every possible web app security sin possible: passwords stored plaintext, validation done in client-side JS, zero attempts at preventing sql injection, etc. mid-2000's we pitched re-writing it in a modern java stack so we could put it on ~the internet~ so regional doc offices could access records more easily. one of the more dipshit project managers asked "why not just put the existing app on the web?" so to demonstrate why that was a dumb loving idea i brought the app up, put his username in, and put code:
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Sweevo posted:my friend used to get 24 hours/month ISP trials and then use them up in one 24hr sitting (23hrs of porn, and then wind down by reading lovely newsgroups about hacker stuff because he thought he was 1337). i also remember getting a metered account and my sister wanting to send an email and her sitting there for 45 minutes pecking out four lines with one finger and using up my valuable minutes. when we first got a modem, i just kept cycling through those free isp trial periods until i got to the pipeline, which was supposed to be a two week trial, but as long as you kept clicking "no, i want to continue my free evaluation" when the subscription nag screen popped up, it let you continue the trial period indefinitely. i had free internet through them for months until someone bought them and ended the free party (earthlink, i think?)
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Sniep posted:my new year's resolution is 1024x768 my resolution is CLOSED WORKSFORME
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:mid 90's  How did this work when JS wasn't released until 1995, for browsers? Is this actually 1999 or something and an early version of ASP?
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Beeftweeter posted:maybe its a philosophical question. what is an ethernet cable it really depends which decade you are asking this question in
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Volmarias posted:
there were two early competing offerings for writing server-side javascript; microsoft asp with jscript support, and netscape livewire, which replaced <server>javascript crap</server> tags in html it served with whatever the javascript generated. e: i at first had this mid-90s, but now also unsure, might have been like 98? at any rate my bet would be on livewire. Cybernetic Vermin fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jan 1, 2023 |
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Volmarias posted:How did this work when JS wasn't released until 1995, for browsers? Is this actually 1999 or something and an early version of ASP? maybe Rhino 
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i did a bunch of stuff with rhino and it was cool and good iirc
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Volmarias posted:
this woulda been 96-97. it was built on Sybase enterprise adaptive server. but yeah analogous to ASP. not bad to work other than all the source was stored in (what else) a Sybase database so version control was “export the db to file share, lol”
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Feisty-Cadaver posted:this woulda been 96-97. it was built 
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remember how the console ports on APC UPSs have two of the pins switched or something so that if you plug in a regular console cable then they get shorted and the UPS will instantly power-off? good times. i got caught by that one aeons ago in my last job with a large 50kva unit, took down a whole 42RU rack of servers. anyway at work we got a brand-new APC SmartUPS 1500 and i was wondering if they are still like that so i checked by plugging in an ordinary Cisco console cable and bam, UPS instantly shut off. honestly why the gently caress are they like that lol
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entering my contact information to get the better encryption version of netscape
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Progressive JPEG posted:entering my contact information to get the better encryption version of netscape being outside of the usa but clicking the confirm button to say i was american to get the better encryption not at all understanding what that even meant
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Pile Of Garbage posted:remember how the console ports on APC UPSs have two of the pins switched or something so that if you plug in a regular console cable then they get shorted and the UPS will instantly power-off? good times. i got caught by that one aeons ago in my last job with a large 50kva unit, took down a whole 42RU rack of servers. was the rj45 side of that ever actually standardized? I remember keeping a collection of one cable per mfg in use
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nudgenudgetilt posted:was the rj45 side of that ever actually standardized? I remember keeping a collection of one cable per mfg in use afaik it was literally just APC and "everyone else". nortel used some bizarre arrangement for a while but they went bankrupt so w/e. also it wasn't just RJ45 that was settled on, micro-USB console seems to be somewhat standardised. that is i was able to use a Cisco micro-USB console cable on a Check Point firewall and it worked without issue.
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isn't the micro-usb standard just the device having a usb serial chip onboard in front of the uart so you don't need to supply your own?
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i haven't needed to console anything but juniper gear since before micro-usb existed as a usb standard. i don't think i've even laid hands on juniper gear since '13 or '14
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:those colour coded mouse and keyboard ps2 connectors, also the colour coded soundcard i/o sockets that you could never remember the colours for so just had to use trial and error because the tiny etched icon was always unreadable Explaining over the phone to a relative that they need to swap the two red RCA plugs on their component cable to make it work
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i take that back -- i've consoled my espressobin and a soho netgear, but those were ttl serial
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oh jeez i haven't used a router console since like 2004 lol i don't think i've ever used one with microusb
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SamDabbers posted:isn't the micro-usb standard just the device having a usb serial chip onboard in front of the uart so you don't need to supply your own? probably, i've never looked into it tbh. fwiw the USB ports on an APC only work if your host can run the powerchute software (effectively useless) im a huge nerd and like having console so my home PC has a SUNIX 4-port serial breakout card so that i can have console to each of my network devices without swapping cables:  SUNIX make up to 12-port breakout cards which look insane, just a single cable with 12 serials hanging off the end like an octopus
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I find it very irritating that modern PSUs get fitted upside down for where the writing is. I think my Corsair is the same. otoh my god are modular PSUs good compares to the days of stuffing nests of unused cables under your drive cage
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