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Docjowles posted:God upgrading from Mariota to Lamar would take Atlanta from the most boring team in the league to must see tv. They were surprisingly entertaining with Mariota. Which is not to say good, but just way better than I thought they'd be on offense. Pretty watchable. In the imaginary world where this could happen plug Lamar in and you're cooking with some gas.
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fsif posted:Hurts just almost won a Super Bowl while Jackson has one postseason win and is coming off two consecutive mediocre and injury riddled seasons. Has Lamar ever faced an opponent as easy as that Giants or 49ers team in the playoffs though? I mean looking at it another way, Hurts couldn't get it done with the best oline, two absurd receivers along with a stacked defense. There's a reasonable case to ask if Hurts is actually really that good or was he just on what was possibly the most talented team in the league.
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Kalli posted:Has Lamar ever faced an opponent as easy as that Giants or 49ers team in the playoffs though? I think Hurts is a little carried by the rest of the offensive roster, HOWEVER he wasn't the reason they didn't win against KC. Although I guess you could argue that he is because of that fumble-6 but their defense played atrocious
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Kalli posted:I mean looking at it another way, Hurts couldn't get it done with the best oline, two absurd receivers along with a stacked defense. There's a reasonable case to ask if Hurts is actually really that good or was he just on what was possibly the most talented team in the league. That defense didn't really show up in the biggest game though. Field conditions were a factor obviously. It was almost like a snow game in the Super Bowl in freaking Arizona, the offense knows which direction they're going and the defense has to react and you can't do that while you're slipping all over the place.
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Kalli posted:Has Lamar ever faced an opponent as easy as that Giants or 49ers team in the playoffs though? Hurts's Super Bowl performance was superb, though. He lost because of that supposedly stacked defense. Jackson's never had the kind of receivers Hurts has, but he's usually had a good line and an elite tight end and his postseason numbers are ghastly. I'm not down on Jackson and think he'll regain his 2020 form away from Roman and with real receivers. But like, if we're talking about the very best QBs in the league, Jackson's injury history and lack of postseason success is the bigger flag to me than the unlikely possibility that Hurts is a system QB.
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fsif posted:Hurts's Super Bowl performance was superb, though. He lost because of that supposedly stacked defense. Jackson's never had the kind of receivers Hurts has, but he's usually had a good line and an elite tight end and his postseason numbers are ghastly. Did you actually watch the Superbowl? Hurts was not good.
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That's right, I make 10,000 posts a year on a football forum but don't watch the Super Bowl.
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Lamar also had a bad to trash OL for 2 of the last 3 years so not sure if he watches the Ravens too
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fsif posted:That's right, I make 10,000 posts a year on a football forum but don't watch the Super Bowl. I'm trying to think of another reason that someone would think Hurts had a good game other than not actually watching the game and just looking at the box score.
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MrLogan posted:Did you actually watch the Superbowl? Hurts was not good. Hurts was good in the super bowl. The conspiracy against the raiders showed you a different game
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you may knock on him for durability issues but if healthy and not throwing to a pile of trash Lamar is decidely not a "Dak level franchise QB"
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MrLogan posted:Did you actually watch the Superbowl? Hurts was not good. what are you talking about lol. he did have a terrible turnover but other than that he was awesome and they would've probably won if he had gotten the ball back
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mcmagic posted:he did have a terrible turnover Also Mahomes had almost the exact same turnover in the AFC Championship game, he just got lucky enough to survive it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99-9i7tAtE Example of a terrible throw by Hurts. He had several like this. Getting bailed out by a great catch or a DB falling down doesn't make it a good throw.
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MrLogan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99-9i7tAtE
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MrLogan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99-9i7tAtE This throw was very good!
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Now you guys are just doing an elaborate troll.
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fsif posted:Hurts's Super Bowl performance was superb, though. He lost because of that supposedly stacked defense. he did spot KC seven tbf. he played a very good game
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MrLogan posted:Now you guys are just doing an elaborate troll. Rich take.
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Ravens are gonna Kirk Cousins/LeVeon Bell themselves out of an MVP QB
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I thought I understood MrLogan’s bit but this “Jalen Hurts actually sucks wicked bad” angle is making me question everything.
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Docjowles posted:I thought I understood MrLogan’s bit but this “Jalen Hurts actually sucks wicked bad” angle is making me question everything. I actually watch football instead of just paying attention to fanty numbers. Jalen Hurts doesn't suck. He just didn't have a good game in the Superbowl (box score aside).
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As fsif said, if you think a bunch of huge football dweebs didn’t also watch the Super Bowl closely and are only looking at fantasy points I don’t know what to tell you You’re welcome to your take but having also watched The Big Game Hurts was loving nails outside of that one extremely regrettable fumble
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MrLogan posted:Did you actually watch the Superbowl? Hurts was not good. Log out of your parachute account Doltos
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With each donald trump appearance, Logan grows stronger and stronger
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Amy Pole Her posted:With each donald trump appearance, Logan grows stronger and stronger MrLogan for POTUS
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MrLogan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99-9i7tAtE I swear to god, every time I watch any Eagles footage all I can think about is how I would literally kill a man to give Justin Fields the same kind of protection Hurts gets
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xbilkis posted:I swear to god, every time I watch any Eagles footage all I can think about is how I would literally kill a man to give Justin Fields the same kind of protection Hurts gets Same. Josh Allen would be so stacked w that line
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Lamar has won an mvp and the best player he's ever had to throw to is mark Andrews
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as a fan who found it risky to be ditching a QB at Carr's level, it's confusing watching Raven's fans try to find the silver lining of their team voluntarily entering the no-QB wilderness over paying Lamar
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The337th posted:as a fan who found it risky to be ditching a QB at Carr's level, it's confusing watching Raven's fans try to find the silver lining of their team voluntarily entering the no-QB wilderness over paying Lamar They are at the bargaining stage of grief. Mentally preparing yourself for the worst possible outcome is normal. When the Bears drafted Trubisky, I spent the next year
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Metapod posted:Lamar has won an mvp and the best player he's ever had to throw to is mark Andrews He threw for a whopping 3100 yards that year.
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No Butt Stuff posted:He threw for a whopping 3100 yards that year. And he ran for 1200
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No Butt Stuff posted:He threw for a whopping 3100 yards that year. what a disingenuous post
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No Butt Stuff posted:He threw for a whopping 3100 yards that year. Jameis Winston once threw for 5100 yards.
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wandler20 posted:Jameis Winston once threw for 5100 yards. This is doing him a disservice, he threw for much more than 5100 yards. Some of them just went the other way.
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Grittybeard posted:This is doing him a disservice, he threw for much more than 5100 yards. Some of them just went the other way. Wouldn't they go against him? So like 4500 yards?
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wandler20 posted:Jameis Winston once threw for 5100 yards. And it was maybe pound for pound the most entertaining qb season ever 
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Mystic Stylez posted:what a disingenuous post It was in direct response about what players he’s had to throw to. I’m well aware that a huge part of his game is his ability to make plays with his legs and it’s a huge part of why he was able to win the MVP. Quit looking for reasons to be mad.
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No Butt Stuff posted:Quit looking for reasons to be mad. Never
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