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I read Goodkind at a time in my life when I was super SUPER into Ayn Rand and even then, at the height of my capitalist/fascist phase, I thought Goodkind was a loving rear end in a top hat. In retrospect realizing what a complete jerk he was and how lovely his politics were might have been one of the very earliest steps on my road to recovery.
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Rebel Blob posted:Terry Goodkind is another one who falls into this camp. How many teenagers read the Sword of Truth series and glossed over Goodkind's abhorrent politics or his full display of his kinks? I read that whole series as a teen but after book 2-3 it became almost more of a hate read to see how much more stupid and vicious the plot could get. I wonder if Goodkind ever mentally reconciled his protagonist being granted basically everything via prophecy or lineage who nonetheless lectures basically everyone on pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. Probably not, given he wrote his protagonist maiming a child and slaughtering a pacifist society for merely asking him not to be a murderfucker and expected people to think Richard was heroic.
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Mar 16, 2023 21:41
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I made it up to Faith of the Fallen but lost steam a few chapters in. I never really made a conscious decision to stop reading I just completely lost interest.
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Didn't miss much. Richard tells a bunch of urban youths to pull up their pants, starts a side hustle that somehow doesn't get noticed immediately in a hellish police state, and then defeats communism by building a statue of him and his wife that instills good judeochristian morals and protestant work ethic in everyone who sees it. Also kahlan was threatened with rape to start this adventure, but that's practically a given for any book in this series.
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Mar 16, 2023 22:14
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I wish someone would threaten me with rape, sparking me to go on a great adventure.
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Powerful Katrinka posted:It's kind of baller that Davis is onboard with people getting weird with Garfield. It's not exactly a surprise he went ahead with the licensing for GarfieldEATS, since that was a possible avenue for more money (lol). Lasagna Cat is just weird for weird's sake and it will never make him a dime, and dude is just like, That's cool, no complaints or take-down requests from me. I respect that back in the 80s dude published an anthology book and TV miniseries about Garfield's past lives, where he had other artists writing stories about Garfield as The Thing and poo poo. Davis has pretty much always been open that Garfield is schlock that exists to make money and if someone wants to turn it into something more creative, awesome. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Mar 16, 2023 |
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Mar 16, 2023 22:55
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Garfield: His 9 Lives is one of those 'way better than a spin-off thing for loving Garfield has any right being' books the lab cat test animal life still takes up space in my brain
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Mar 16, 2023 22:57
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Wasn’t he an advertising exec before he was a cartoonist? Jim Davis I mean.
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There's a whole thread about how awful the sword of truth is, https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668845&pagenumber=1&perpage=40&userid=0#post435631173 It's quite the ride!
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Renfield posted:There's a whole thread about how awful the sword of truth is, Yeah I don’t trust anyone who writes fiction for political reasons and not because if they don’t get the story out of their diseased mind they’re going to die of despair. Anyone have any recommendations like that?
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Mar 16, 2023 23:33
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you know maybe i'll finally learn something and not read an awful author just because goons said how awful he was ...right after this terry goodkind fellow
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Mar 16, 2023 23:34
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Foo Diddley posted:you know maybe i'll finally learn something and not read an awful author just because goons said how awful he was Lol
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Mar 16, 2023 23:36
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Foo Diddley posted:you know maybe i'll finally learn something and not read an awful author just because goons said how awful he was Terry Goodkind posted:Princess Violet squeezed her eyes shut, stuck her tongue out far as she could.
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Lol that was funny. Not heroic though, like at all, just hilarious.
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at last an author brave enough to tell the legend of the Child Stomper
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Terry Goodkind is known for very simple prose that later turns into a weirdly preachy fable where the moral is not clear. If you have time to read Goodkind, you have time to read something better.
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Terry Goodkind is known for very simple prose that later turns into a weirdly preachy fable where the moral is not clear. Amazon has never recommended me anything by Terry Goodkind. That should tell you how bad he was.
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Rebel Blob posted:Have a taste of what you are in for as our adult hero valiantly vanquishes his 8-year old antagonist: hmm, i can't decide if that's worse than when piers anthony writes about little girls or not
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Terry Goodkind is better than Robert Jordan.
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Jelly posted:Terry Goodkind is better than Robert Jordan. Yeah and puke is better than diarrhea. I’m sorry that was rude I’ve only read like 20 pages of Robert Jordan.
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Mar 17, 2023 00:53
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he did wheel of time, right? that was just boring, unless it gets really bad after the part where i quit reading
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Jelly posted:Terry Goodkind is better than Robert Jordan. Objectively false :nerd:
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Foo Diddley posted:he did wheel of time, right? that was just boring, unless it gets really bad after the part where i quit reading Yeah I quit reading after 20 pages for a reason, I just didn’t want to seem overly rude
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I got handed the sword of truth and I couldn't get through the first book. It was like page 200 of that guy getting sexually dominated and I just couldn't keep reading that poo poo anymore.
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Rust Martialis posted:From "Dilbert minus Dilbert" lol
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Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:I got handed the sword of truth and I couldn't get through the first book. It was like page 200 of that guy getting sexually dominated and I just couldn't keep reading that poo poo anymore. But at the end he learns to forgive the dominatrix and she tells him she loves him as he kills her with his magic sword's new power that never comes up again How could you not be riveted
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rotinaj posted:But at the end he learns to forgive the dominatrix and she tells him she loves him as he kills her with his magic sword's new power that never comes up again The actual sword in the The Sword of Truth is probably the most unimportant part of the whole series.
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Garfield: His 9 Lives is one of those 'way better than a spin-off thing for loving Garfield has any right being' books I seem to recall that in one of the lives he goes feral and mauls his elderly caretaker. I felt bad for her. Edit:  
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Renfield posted:There's a whole thread about how awful the sword of truth is, oh poo poo, I thought that thread died. I have some catching up to do.
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9 Lives is some real gonzo poo poo, I love that book
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Applewhite posted:I read Goodkind at a time in my life when I was super SUPER into Ayn Rand and even then, at the height of my capitalist/fascist phase, I thought Goodkind was a loving rear end in a top hat. New thread title: Terry Goodkind is a loving rear end in a top hat. More like Terry Badkind, amiright? Full disclosure: I don't read fantasy books so haven't read any of his works.
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glad i got a garf tat and not some dil ink
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numberoneposter posted:glad i got a garf tat and not some dil ink Hangin' in there with you, baby~
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numberoneposter posted:glad i got a garf tat and not some dil ink A real dil ink went
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biznatchio posted:Fixed. 
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Prof. Crocodile posted:It's unclear to me how Harsh Noise Wally differs from normal Wally... If you view the HNW comics webpage with your browser's ad blocking turned off, you're not lining the pockets of a racist rear end in a top hat with ad revenue.
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BigBadSteve posted:Full disclosure: I don't read fantasy books so haven't read any of his works. I don't either, but I do make an exception for Terry Pratchett's Discworld series. You likely already know, but they're pretty much super witty and goofy fantasy parody that, in a good way, still manage to take themselves seriously.
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I've read the Lord of the rings, the hobbit and all the discworld books and I think that's literally the only fantasy I've ever read and enjoyed. Maybe also "good omens" if that counts
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Captain Yossarian posted:I've read the Lord of the rings, the hobbit and all the discworld books and I think that's literally the only fantasy I've ever read and enjoyed. Maybe also "good omens" if that counts Go read some Ursula K. LeGuin.
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LeGuin is pretty much better than all her male contemporaries bar like Harlan Ellison or random occasionals like Spider Robinson because she was actually competent at navigating human relationships, sociology, and anthropology. Reading stuff like Foundation really falls flat because Asimov seems like a total moron when it comes to people and like so many male sci-fi authors at the time, has virtually zero imagination whatsoever about the human condition itself. Heinlein was middling to alright about this during his early career, and then he just went famously stupid. LeGuin could not only postulate on the more technical and dry aspects of sci-fi, but was an incredibly lucid writer when she forced you to contend with how human nature would evolve as well. She questioned the gender binary long before it was popular (even though questioning the binary is a pretty old itself) and was fairly critical of the concept of the nuclear family along with harboring an understanding that hierarchal behavior is practically inherently at odds with intelligence - a fairly fatal flaw of our species, since we're intelligent to enough to be highly proficient at creating means of killing ourselves and making our own lives significantly worse, a lot of bad sci-fi authors basically do nothing but endorse hierarchal behavior, usually through some hyper-individualistic lens. I think she understood that humanity would go through just as much a singularity of consciousness as a scientific one if it would hope to survive and evolve past just being the generic apes we are at the moment. Octavia Butler was also fairly good at this, but she had really weird homophobic undertones occasionally. I thought about this a lot recently when I read the Remembrance of Earth's Past books when a friend hyped up The Three-Body Problem and I was struck with pure-strain frustration regarding how one single man can have such a capacity for making concepts that are almost indescribable comprehensible on the page, but then is such a stupid, uncreative, unimaginative dumbfuck that his gender politics and social commentary are the most staid, unbelievably dull poo poo that feels like it was ripped straight out of some dookie rear end late Heinlein novel, but several decades too new to have a reasonable excuse for it. Lil Swamp Booger Baby fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Mar 18, 2023 |
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