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I thought it was because newbie game dev kits like RPG Maker default to that style
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there are definitely both kinds of games, stuff that uses pixel art because it's cheap and easy to throw stuff together (rpg maker stuff, a lot of itch.io stuff, etc) and stuff that uses pixel art as an explicit element of nostalgia (shovel knight, etc) imo I'm not generally gonna criticize super experimental hobbyist projects for using whatever art style is easiest for the dev to rely on, but i definitely get annoyed at a lot of professional projects using pixel art as pure nostalgia bait (and often not even doing it particularly well)
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:04 |
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quiggy posted:there are definitely both kinds of games, stuff that uses pixel art because it's cheap and easy to throw stuff together (rpg maker stuff, a lot of itch.io stuff, etc) and stuff that uses pixel art as an explicit element of nostalgia (shovel knight, etc) i don't play the indie games at all because they're always bad games anyway
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:06 |
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that sure is a take
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:13 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:i don't play the indie games at all because they're always bad games anyway my maxim is "90% of everything is poo poo" but that still leaves room for your occasional shovel knight or whatever
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:15 |
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fabled lands seems kind of interesting. sort of in the vein of roadwarden if i'm reading the description right
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:16 |
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3D Megadoodoo posted:I don't believe you. e: But that has no bearing on what I said anyway. Sure whatever, but pixel art isn’t the retro trend today, it was 10 years ago. Current retro is PSX graphics because you can slice some models in blender and grab an off the shelf unity shader that makes the edges wiggle to simulate float point rounding
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:18 |
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Armitag3 posted:Sure whatever, but pixel art isn’t the retro trend today, it was 10 years ago. Current retro is PSX graphics because you can slice some models in blender and grab an off the shelf unity shader that makes the edges wiggle to simulate float point rounding 10 years ago is current. LIterally the most popular computer game today is Grand Theft Auto 5, which was released three hundred years ago.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:19 |
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i don’t follow what you’re saying
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:20 |
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i dont really care about the art style if the game is fun although the new square enix style (octopath, triangle strategy, etc) is getting to be a little grating now
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AnimeIsTrash posted:i dont really care about the art style if the game is fun surprised we haven't really yet seen an indie game use this style yet tbh
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:21 |
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quiggy posted:surprised we haven't really yet seen an indie game use this style yet tbh Eastward comes to mind, 2D sprites on top a pixel 3D world. It looked really cool shame the game is kinda boring otherwise
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:22 |
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indie games obey sturgeon's law, same as everything else the big advantage of pixel art is that almost anyone can make something at least passable in that style. if you aren't a trained/experienced 3D modeler you aren't going to come up with a good 3D model. if you aren't a trained/experienced photoshop person you aren't going to make good textures. but anyone can pick a color and tap in one pixel at a time in a 32x32 grid. it won't be world class sprite work and there's definitely still a range of quality but your programmer art will at least be recognizable as what you intended it to be this has gotten less important recently since the major game creation toolkits now include asset stores so you don't need to deal with the nitty gritty of finding and hiring artists
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:24 |
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eastward did look pretty neat. for pixel games, i was messing around with Anno: Mutationem for the most part
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:24 |
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Also something I've noticed with new games for old computers (say, Commodore 64 and the also-rans): people not designing for CRTs and thus the games looking like poo poo on period hardware, and lacklustre in any case.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:26 |
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haveblue posted:indie games obey sturgeon's law, same as everything else Yeah this is what i’m saying. As the tooling gets more and more accessible and better, 2 person teams can do what took a whole department to do back in the day. Indie games are always lagged behind 20 or so years to what professional outfits can do in terms of hard assets so they look mostly retro
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 18:27 |
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https://twitter.com/manfightdragon/status/1639448636106080256?s=20
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:00 |
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that’s a pretty good changelog
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:02 |
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AnimeIsTrash posted:although the new square enix style (octopath, triangle strategy, etc) is getting to be a little grating now Actually its still really good If we're talking about indie game art style and you dont like pixel art (u weirdo) its hard to do better than solar ash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msCeiD4t-Ms
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:08 |
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personally i blame feminists
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:14 |
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I get irritable when I see pixel art where the pixels aren't all aligned to the same grid, or worse, are scaled to different sizes
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:18 |
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I was playing Fallout 4 on my PS5 when I didn't have Internet for a while, and one of the old biddies living in the upper whatevers in Diamond City had her summer frock glitch in a way I've never seen before and gave me a lovely view while she was sitting down at the bar terrace. (I'm glad the developer's weren't pervy enough to actually show anything that mattered down there.)
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:19 |
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I wonder if this guy knows that he can find pictures of women in panties on the internet
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:20 |
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Sagebrush posted:I wonder if this guy knows that he can find pictures of women in panties on the internet Mother won't let him on the Internet.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 19:22 |
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hey it was funny when Ashley called you a pervert because a zombie whacked you so hard your head hit the ground next to her totally understandable why they took all that out though and they took out the line about “ballistics” for again perfectly good and understandable reasons. but they also took out leon getting shot down by hannigan which didn’t seem that problematic to me haveblue fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Mar 25, 2023 |
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Sagebrush posted:I get irritable when I see pixel art where the pixels aren't all aligned to the same grid, or worse, are scaled to different sizes this is fair but also aligning pixel art properly in modern game engines is a huge loving pain in the rear end so ill allow it if the game is interesting and not some big commercial thing
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 20:14 |
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Sagebrush posted:I get irritable when I see pixel art where the pixels aren't all aligned to the same grid, or worse, are scaled to different sizes How about when lighting effects clearly show nothing is made out of pixels.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 20:19 |
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general rule of thumb do not use lighting effects at all with your pixel art unless you know what you are doing
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 20:44 |
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i think dead cells, for all its faults, handles pickle graphics pretty well
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 20:49 |
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yeah, those are some pretty good pickles
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 20:51 |
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quiggy posted:general rule of thumb do not use lighting effects at all with your pixel art unless you know what you are doing even more so: don't use particle effect with particles smaller than you're "pixels"
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 20:53 |
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Kenny Logins posted:i think dead cells, for all its faults, handles pickle graphics pretty well dead cells faults are that it kicks my rear end and i've lost 40minutes of my life
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KidDynamite posted:dead cells faults are that it kicks my rear end and i've lost 40minutes of my life we’ve all had to do performance evaluations don’t worry about it
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KidDynamite posted:dead cells faults are that it kicks my rear end and i've lost 40minutes of my life
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 21:00 |
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i've got a broken brain and also i want those boss cells. only have 2 so far.
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KidDynamite posted:i've got a broken brain and also i want those boss cells. only have 2 so far.
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# ? Mar 25, 2023 21:04 |
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i didn't know you could still get boss cells that way. will check it out.
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# ? Mar 26, 2023 01:05 |
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quiggy posted:it seems so weird to me to remake this game that is still very easily playable on modern consoles and has not aged poorly in the slightest apparently they dumped the qtes in the remake, which is fine, because they weren't fun back then either
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# ? Mar 26, 2023 04:11 |
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https://twitter.com/vg_history/status/1639818187519967240?s=46&t=aXw7W5TiwDaOVtqp-9FOLA
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KidDynamite posted:i didn't know you could still get boss cells that way. will check it out.
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