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Do what the Brady Bunch did: The Rings of Power Variety Hour Characters singing pop standards then jumping into a pool. Also one character gets replaced by a lookalike. Wait a minute, this already almost is the Variety Hour version of middle earth
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I mean the Mandalorian’s cg backdrops are really obvious and it never feels like they’re in most of the spaces on the show. I really hope some studios are willing to continue spending money on real sets and location photography. Also the city in the last episode had no crowd sims at all, it’s completely uninhabited in wide shots, and in medium shots it only has as many people as can fit in the volume. Half the costume work looks really rubbery. It kind of works with the Fraggle Rock nature of the show, but I wouldn’t want orcs that looked that fake. RoP looked lightyears better in practical work and even the CG has more nuance. To suggest that the two shows have similar final images displayed seems nuts to me. Edit: I suppose we could have gone with Andor, since it's the closest television show in terms of visual extravagance with excellent execution. But it also had fewer locations, more props and costumes that could be repurposed real-world items, and not much in the way of animal/water-tank/atmospheric work. Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Apr 7, 2023 |
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Bugblatter posted:I mean the Mandalorian’s cg backdrops are really obvious and it never feels like they’re in most of the spaces on the show. I really hope some studios are willing to continue spending money on real sets and location photography. And as I recall, Mandalorian is novel for being an early adopter for that live-composite big screen tech. The footage isn't keyed, it's just filmed that way. Which should look more "real," but I guess it doesn't matter if the models still look bad.
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The Mandalorian looks really good imo. Maybe I'm just easy to please. I loving love all the random puppets they have.
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Xealot posted:And as I recall, Mandalorian is novel for being an early adopter for that live-composite big screen tech. The footage isn't keyed, it's just filmed that way. Which should look more "real," but I guess it doesn't matter if the models still look bad. Yeah, it pioneered the use of live digital backdrops in a volume that Disney+ now uses for all its shows. It's sort of a modern equivalent of rear projection. It's great tech if used well but is prone to the same issues of keyed backdrops if not. Most of Disney's productions have used it in a lazy way, where they do very little in terms of physical prop work and just do everything with the volume. So you wind up with the same issue of the SW prequels where the actors are clearly in a 20m space with little in the fore-to-mid-ground. Like in Willow, whether the characters were in forests or mountains, the 20-meter area around them always has level ground with very few props, and the characters can never interact with the world. Action that requires vertical movement is very limited because that requires going outside. You can never have more characters than fit in the limited space. It's a great tool for certain uses. Greg Fraiser's use in Season 1 was great, as was his use of it in The Batman. But in the last year Disney has been using it as a solution for... ever building sets at all and it makes everything feel very stagey. External Organs posted:The Mandalorian looks really good imo. Maybe I'm just easy to please. I loving love all the random puppets they have. I mean I adore the janky puppets. I use the Fraggle Rock reference in an affectionate way for Mandalorian, 70s-esque puppet work is a great fit for the show. But I wouldn't want orcs that look as rubbery as the swamp man pirate in a LotR story.
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I can't wait for the Elves to come nagging for the Dwarves to dig up some more mithril. From an ill-fated thread: 
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Bugblatter posted:Yeah, it pioneered the use of live digital backdrops in a volume that Disney+ now uses for all its shows. It's sort of a modern equivalent of rear projection. It's great tech if used well but is prone to the same issues of keyed backdrops if not. Most of Disney's productions have used it in a lazy way, where they do very little in terms of physical prop work and just do everything with the volume. So you wind up with the same issue of the SW prequels where the actors are clearly in a 20m space with little in the fore-to-mid-ground. Like in Willow, whether the characters were in forests or mountains, the 20-meter area around them always has level ground with very few props, and the characters can never interact with the world. Action that requires vertical movement is very limited because that requires going outside. You can never have more characters than fit in the limited space. Ahh, so they've invented the holodeck 
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Ironically scenes in the holodeck in TNG looks better because they were filmed with real things
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I liked this show a lot. I also love the hobbit movies extended editions
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A MIRACLE posted:I liked this show a lot. I also love the hobbit movies extended editions Someone call a doctor
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Taear posted:Someone call a doctor I learned from the very good show they are called artificers.
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A MIRACLE posted:I liked this show a lot. I also love the hobbit movies extended editions 
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Taear posted:Someone call a doctor This man is already dead.
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I've never seen the extended versions of the Hobbit trilogy, because I hated the originals so much that I didn't want to subject myself to more. Did they add anything of value? For context, I think the extended versions of the LotR trilogy are the only real way to watch them. But I still loved the original versions in theaters, which is why I wanted to watch the extended versions in the first place.
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There's a bit where the dwarves get naked and whip each other with towels.
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Nobody Interesting posted:There's a bit where the dwarves get naked and whip each other with towels. I think you're joking...but I can't risk it...
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there’s more dwarf antics and songs and stuff I think, I’ve never seen the non extended editions watching the lotr extendeds now
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Nobody Interesting posted:There's a bit where the dwarves get naked and whip each other with towels. Where there's a whip *whipcrack*, there's a wang!
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Honestly it could have benefited from more song and dance sequences.
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thrawn527 posted:I think you're joking...but I can't risk it... I truly wish I was.
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I own, and have watched the extended version of the first Hobbit movie and I couldn't tell you anything of consequence that was added. I have not seen the extended cut for either of the other two because I don't hate myself that much.
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thrawn527 posted:I've never seen the extended versions of the Hobbit trilogy, because I hated the originals so much that I didn't want to subject myself to more. Did they add anything of value? Hardly value, but the extended versions make them even more tedious and unbearable, and depending on your point of view, perhaps more shameful and offensive
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MrMojok posted:Hardly value, but the extended versions make them even more tedious and unbearable, and depending on your point of view, perhaps more shameful and offensive You are incorrect sir, nevar forget the twirly whirlies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuu1SKxSqOg
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Finally caught up on the thread after watching the show a couple months ago. Have to say it was pretty not good. Maybe not actively bad, but not good. Still can't get over how loving badly the whole Mount Doom thing was executed though. Like why was the dam (that was apparently part of an Elven fort?) rigged to demolish itself when the evil sword was inserted into it? Why did the volcano have a massive eruption when the tiny amount of water that would have reached it via the orc canals hit it, that's not a thing volcanoes do. There's loving snow on it, water obviously gets in there all the time anyway. None of this is necessary because you could just have the sword set off the volcano via magic if you really want to lean into the evil MacGuffin. Then everyone is engulfed in a pyroclastic flow from the volcano, but don't worry everyone is fine, except for poor Isuldur, who is of course fine because obviously. I also read Bret Devereaux's excellent columns (Part I: https://acoup.blog/2022/12/16/collections-why-rings-of-powers-middle-earth-feels-flat/) on it after that and god drat you just can't unsee the flaws once you read them. The material culture of the show really makes zero sense, a problem that the PJ films had no problem with. It sure was pretty to look at though I guess, and it was actually nice to see the cast of Spartacus all turning up. E: god drat I love Bret's writing: "ACOUP.blog posted:
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Buttchocks posted:Honestly it could have benefited from more song and dance sequences.
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I watched the first Hobbit movie in the theater on opening day. It was poo poo. I didn't see the rest. Recently, a friend told me about the Cardinal Cut, which takes footage from all 3 movies and trims out anything that deviates from the book. It was still poo poo.
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Same, I watched the first Hobbit movie, liked the singing, then watched it get worse and worse through its runtime. Didn't watch the other two.
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PittTheElder posted:Finally caught up on the thread after watching the show a couple months ago. Have to say it was pretty not good. Maybe not actively bad, but not good. TBH, crassus, and the rest of spartacus, got me through those really bad beginning, middle, and end eps.
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Peter Jackson sort of sucks and it's a miracle that the Lord of the Rings movies were mostly great They could not come even close to recapturing the magic of those movies with The Hobbit movies.
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covidstomper58 posted:You are incorrect sir, nevar forget the twirly whirlies. Am I hearing not one but two Wilhelm screams in there??
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The only Hobbit movie I saw in theaters was the first one, and the only thing I remember about it was hating HFR
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Peter Jackson should have canned the hobbit films and focused his efforts on making Bad Taste 2.
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Hobo Clown posted:The only Hobbit movie I saw in theaters was the first one, and the only thing I remember about it was hating HFR Have the studios stopped doing HFR? I haven't heard word one about it since the Hobbit movies, not even in the context of people arguing over whether it's good or bad. Only explanation I can think of is that they gave up and pretended it never happened
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Data Graham posted:Have the studios stopped doing HFR? I haven't heard word one about it since the Hobbit movies, not even in the context of people arguing over whether it's good or bad. Only explanation I can think of is that they gave up and pretended it never happened
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Llamadeus posted:Avatar 2 did some and to much the same reaction Do you mean certain scenes were in HFR, or were some theaters screening the whole movie that way? If it's the former I don't remember noticing, so maybe the tech has improved.
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Certain scenes, but I imagine some theatres showed the whole thing at 24.
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ozmunkeh posted:It’s criminal GdT didn’t get to make those movies. I go back and forth on his work lately, but at the very least it would have been different, which is what I think the trilogy needed. I love the LotR trilogy. One of my favorite series of movies of all time. But if you were going to do the Hobbit, it really needed to be different, I think. Maybe this is just with the benefit of hindsight.
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